Itachi Uchiha vs. Madara Uchiha.

[-Liquid Cefka-]

He claimed madara defeated both, yet the manga says madara defeated onoki and only him unless he can upload me a chapter where the manga says madara defeated both.

Secondly that argument itself is a flimsy one. Both ems madara and itachi have similar abilities therefore this fight would be rather close

Doesn't matter how close Blaze.

Madara wins.

 

[Blaze Release]

so you are saying just because muu isnt on 1 page that he didnt fight madara with onoki. gaara isnt shown on every page in the kages vs madara fight but is he not fighting in it. muus reaction when madara came out of the coffin kinda implies that they had some type of altercation in the past.

Pointless argument. If he defeated both dont you think the manga would show both. I mean the manga showed all 3 of them in a previous altercation and this time it left out mu and only focused on onoki, a defeated onoki who madara later talked down on.

As i said upload me a chapter where the manga states that madara defeated mu. I can state in the manga that madara defeated onoki, show me in teh manga where it states he defeated mu.

Doesn't matter how close Blaze.

Madara wins.

If its ems madara then no i dont believe that fight is clear

 

[TheSages456]

Pointless argument. If he defeated both dont you think the manga would show both. I mean the manga showed all 3 of them in a previous altercation and this time it left out mu and only focused on onoki, a defeated onoki who madara later talked down on.

As i said upload me a chapter where the manga states that madara defeated mu. I can state in the manga that madara defeated onoki

the manga page i showed had muu in it. on the next page it shows the area destroyed but only onoki is there. madara defeated muu then toyed with onoki. you really think muu went invisible and got out of there and left onoki to fight madara.

 

[-Liquid Cefka-]

If its ems madara then no i dont believe that fight is clear

Heh. Ok Blaze.

Fair enough.

 

[Blaze Release]

the manga page i showed had muu in it. on the next page it shows the area destroyed but only onoki is there. madara defeated muu then toyed with onoki. you really think muu went invisible and got out of there and left onoki to fight madara.

Holding on to your petty argument and still cannot upload me the chapter where it states that he defeated both. You say the manga didnt show mu because of another pointless argument. Why would the manga not include mu if he was involved in the fight. Im sure he would also be shown on the ground along with onoki no different to this;

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The manga was able to show all 5 kages on the floor defeated. If thats the case why can it not show mu along with onoki on the floor defeated. Why exclude him?.

 

[iMicLykTyson]

Holding on to your petty argument and still cannot upload me the chapter where it states that he defeated both. You say the manga didnt show mu because of another pointless argument. Why would the manga not include mu if he was involved in the fight. Im sure he would also be shown on the ground along with onoki no different to this;

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The manga was able to show all 5 kages on the floor defeated. If thats the case why can it not show mu along with onoki on the floor defeated. Why exclude him?.

no need for the bombardment lol it was just his opinion

 

[TheSages456]

Holding on to your petty argument and still cannot upload me the chapter where it states that he defeated both. You say the manga didnt show mu because of another pointless argument. Why would the manga not include mu if he was involved in the fight. Im sure he would also be shown on the ground along with onoki no different to this;

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The manga was able to show all 5 kages on the floor defeated. If thats the case why can it not show mu along with onoki on the floor defeated. Why exclude him?.

the flashback was about onoki. it was to show how he gave up in the past and he wanted to change. why would muu be shown?

 

[Blaze Release]

no need for the bombardment lol it was just his opinion

His opinion contradicts the manga especially when he still cannot upload me a manga link of a defeated mu

the flashback was about onoki. it was to show how he gave up in the past and he wanted to change. why would muu be shown?

In that same flash back it showed mu in the first page. In the other page of the flashback it didnt show mu when onoki was defeated

 

[-Liquid Cefka-]

This has veered off from the OP, alot lol.

 

[yuan of cruxis]

If its EMS Madara, Itachi wins
If Edo Madara, Edo Madara wins
But Itachi still has a chance against Edo Madara as well, but are rather slim

 

[TheSages456]

His opinion contradicts the manga especially when he still cannot upload me a manga link of a defeated mu



In that same flash back it showed mu in the first page. In the other page of the flashback it didnt show mu when onoki was defeated

my opinion doesnt contradict anything. you say that muu wasnt there because he isnt shown on 1 page. chiyo wasnt shown on every page in the sasori vs sakura and chiyo fight. naruto wasnt shown in every page in the zabuza vs team 7 fight. naruto wasnt shown on every page in the naruto and kakashi vs itachi fight. what we see in a confrontation between onoki, muu and madara, then madara gets mad because onoki mentions hashiramas name, then we see a destroyed area.

 

[yuan of cruxis]

Pointless argument. If he defeated both dont you think the manga would show both. I mean the manga showed all 3 of them in a previous altercation and this time it left out mu and only focused on onoki, a defeated onoki who madara later talked down on.

As i said upload me a chapter where the manga states that madara defeated mu. I can state in the manga that madara defeated onoki, show me in teh manga where it states he defeated mu.



If its ems madara then no i dont believe that fight is clear

Read about Muu, he lost to Madara
Even if he didnt its pretty clear Muu didnt want trouble seeing as how he did what Madara told him to do

 

[Blaze Release]

my opinion doesnt contradict anything. you say that muu wasnt there because he isnt shown on 1 page. chiyo wasnt shown on every page in the sasori vs sakura and chiyo fight. naruto wasnt shown in every page in the zabuza vs team 7 fight. naruto wasnt shown on every page in the naruto and kakashi vs itachi fight. what we see in a confrontation between onoki, muu and madara, then madara gets mad because onoki mentions hashiramas name, then we see a destroyed area.

Anyway this has gotten boring because you still cannot upload me the link i want or where it states he defeated mu. What i will tell you however is that it was likely another scenario where this time mu was there

Read about Muu, he lost to Madara
Even if he didnt its pretty clear Muu didnt want trouble seeing as how he did what Madara told him to do

Already know enough of mu and its never stated that he madara defeated him. Secondly madara commands respect. He has gotten stupid hype even before he became edo. Even tobi was lured into forming an alliance with kabuto because of him and thats about it.

EDIT: "Btw how can you say mu lost to madara then say even if he didnt." Seems like im arguing with people who arent sure about themselves

 

[-Liquid Cefka-]

If its EMS Madara, Itachi wins
If Edo Madara, Edo Madara wins
But Itachi still has a chance against Edo Madara as well, but are rather slim

Explain.

 

[TheSages456]

Anyway this has gotten boring because you still cannot upload me the link i want or where it states he defeated mu. What i will tell you however is that it was likely another scenario where this time mu was there

:sy: thats excellent logic. just because muu is not shown on one page then it didnt happen. its not like muu can talk about it. he under edo tenseis control. he cant just go like "me and onoki got beat by madara in the past". onoki isnt talking about his past with madara. however more evidence points to my argument being correct. we see madara confront onoki and muu, madara gets mad at onoki then we see the area destroyed. whether you want to accept it is not my problem.

 

[iMicLykTyson]

Explain.

well if you think about it madara's Ms tech are pretty much even with itachi's, any advantage madara has in this section, in terms of having more power behind the technique will be counter by Yata mirror. his totsuka sword goes a far as been able to seal madara which also adds to itachi's advantage, this been said itachi's base speed is fast so he can dodge amaterasu in his base speed (it is compared to that of minato's) but then again madara's speed might be able to dodge it too. i think his weapons with susano gives him an egde over EMS madara.

 

[-Liquid Cefka-]

well if you think about it madara's Ms tech are pretty much even with itachi's, any advantage madara has in this section, in terms of having more power behind the technique will be counter by Yata mirror. his totsuka sword goes a far as been able to seal madara which also adds to itachi's advantage, this been said itachi's base speed is fast so he can dodge amaterasu in his base speed (it is compared to that of minato's) but then again madara's speed might be able to dodge it too. i think his weapons with susano gives him an egde over EMS madara.

I see what you mean. Basically, Itachi Susano'o will do everything.

Lets just hope Itachi activated Susano'o initially. Thats all I'll say. For now.

Edit: Since when is Itachi fast enough to dodge Amaterasu.

 

[iMicLykTyson]

I see what you mean. Basically, Itachi Susano'o will do everything.

Lets just hope Itachi activated Susano'o initially. Thats all I'll say. For now.

well it will come down to susano vs susano in which itachi has weapons so yeah

 

[TheSages456]

well if you think about it madara's Ms tech are pretty much even with itachi's, any advantage madara has in this section, in terms of having more power behind the technique will be counter by Yata mirror. his totsuka sword goes a far as been able to seal madara which also adds to itachi's advantage, this been said itachi's base speed is fast so he can dodge amaterasu in his base speed (it is compared to that of minato's) but then again madara's speed might be able to dodge it too. i think his weapons with susano gives him an egde over EMS madara.

itachis speed has never been compared to minatos. madara has a walking susano. it would easily dodge totsuka. madara would jump over itachis susano and smash it from the back.

 

[Blaze Release]

:sy: thats excellent logic. just because muu is not shown on one page then it didnt happen. its not like muu can talk about it. he under edo tenseis control. he cant just go like "me and onoki got beat by madara in the past". onoki isnt talking about his past with madara. however more evidence points to my argument being correct. we see madara confront onoki and muu, madara gets mad at onoki then we see the area destroyed. whether you want to accept it is not my problem.

Using an emoticon to distract me from your flimsy argument doesnt help you here if anything its futile here, especially when you still cannot back up your claims with a manga link which states all you've said.

Everything hints that it was a fight between only the 2. Further backed by onoki's resolve towards madara;

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