Why is Tsunade so underated?

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why are u comparing the rinnegan with tsunade that is unfair. Why are u comparing her to minato he is one of the strongest naruto characters of them all.

since when is it not allowed to compare people on this site?
 

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no your points are lame, kakashi can easily read her movements and dodge her attacks thanks to his sharigan, kamui can easily kill her since kakashi improved on it, he's much more accurate and faster at using it,

erm, he can chidori her to the head or use genjutsu on her,

Really, She going to let him chidori her to the head. She is not going to be moving in a straight line to be hit with Kamui when she knows the technique. Kakashi is clever but Tsunade is no idiot. She has amazing chakra control which will help with the genjustu and its not goingt to do mental damage to her consiedring she healed the damage of Tsukuyomi pretty easily
 

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Nagato would not have been able to bring back everyone that Tsunade saved had they died. His body wouldn't have been able to take it. I dont really like repeating stuff I addressed in my original post

the amount of people that nagato brought back is more then the people that tsunade saves IMO.

and how do you know his body wouldnt have been able to bring back everyone that tsunade saved had they died ? how do you know his body wouldnt have been able to take it?

your not kishi.
 

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her most likely knowing about kumai is speculation

she can barely keep up with him thanks to his sharigan and his speed is greater, kakashi was able to warp and fasting speed bull nail coming straight to his face from deva pain which was about 5 inches from him and he kaumie'd sasuke's sussano arrow

Which were coming straight towards him. I didn't say she was a minato or a tobi. I said she isn't weak
 

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the amount of people that nagato brought back is more then the people that tsunade saves IMO.

and how do you know his body wouldnt have been able to bring back everyone that tsunade saved had they died ? how do you know his body wouldnt have been able to take it?

your not kishi.

He died bringing back that amount of people. He can't bring people back when dead can he
 

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Really, She going to let him chidori her to the head. She is not going to be moving in a straight line to be hit with Kamui when she knows the technique. Kakashi is clever but Tsunade is no idiot. She has amazing chakra control which will help with the genjustu and its not goingt to do mental damage to her consiedring she healed the damage of Tsukuyomi pretty easily

link me where it states she knows the technique.

kakashi has amazing chakra control too he knows his limits and uses his chakra and analyzing quite well.

isnt that different she healed the effect of tsukuyomi on SOMEONE ELSE NOT HERSELF?
 

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Really, She going to let him chidori her to the head. She is not going to be moving in a straight line to be hit with Kamui when she knows the technique. Kakashi is clever but Tsunade is no idiot. She has amazing chakra control which will help with the genjustu and its not goingt to do mental damage to her consiedring she healed the damage of Tsukuyomi pretty easily
Kakashis speciality is feint with Kage bunshin, and even a sharingan and rinnengan user failed to notice it. So when Tsunade will land a punch, she will see it's a raiton kage bunshin and get paralysed. At that moment, Kakashi could do everything he wants. :noc:
 

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He died bringing back that amount of people. He can't bring people back when dead can he

obviously he cant bring back the dead when he is dead?

your forgetting he was already using alot of chakra thru the pein body's alread.
 

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no she can beat konan, hidan, zetsu, and sasori



your being dumb hidan was defeated by the niju shotai and needed kakuzu's help while tsunade would easily dominate them. Sakura was able to fight back agaisnt the iron sand so tsunade could as well. Tsunade has healed from many strong attacks so she can tank some of his though im not saying she can kakuzu.

you cant be serious about the bolded char??
are you?? :sy::sy:
 

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Which were coming straight towards him. I didn't say she was a minato or a tobi. I said she isn't weak

who's to say tsunade wont come straight towards him? :shrug:

i agree she isnt weak but i wouldn't put her in my top 15 when she cant even beat kakashi.
 

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link me where it states she knows the technique.

kakashi has amazing chakra control too he knows his limits and uses his chakra and analyzing quite well.

isnt that different she healed the effect of tsukuyomi on SOMEONE ELSE NOT HERSELF?

It is different but it suggests she knows genjutsu as well and since medical ninjutsu is all about chakra control its safe to say her far surpasses Kakashi's.

She would know the most powerful techniques of her most powerful jonin so she can send him on missions that suit his abilities
 

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Which were coming straight towards him. I didn't say she was a minato or a tobi. I said she isn't weak

It is different but it suggests she knows genjutsu as well and since medical ninjutsu is all about chakra control its safe to say her far surpasses Kakashi's.

She would know the most powerful techniques of her most powerful jonin so she can send him on missions that suit his abilities

IMO its a high chance she knows kamui but its still speculation.

kakashi can make her relieve some of her painful memories of dan or her little brother that died i don't think she can take that..

''suggest she knows genjutsu''

your not really saying how tsunade would beat kakashi. :cool:

she has a 3.5 in genjutsu btw...
 

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Honestly the way I see it, Kakashi going for a head-chop is logical if he knows about Tsunade's special seal in her head. I mostly say this because we can relate the same instance to others' fights in the manga.

Raikiri is known as a very powerful jutsu because it's almost impossible to out-do in close quarter combat. If Kakashi gets in close, this could be another A vs Sasuke instance, where Sasuke uses his Sharingan to dodge the fatal blow to his face and instead gets through A's speed and hurts him. Normally I'd say this would be harder since Kakashi usually stabs with his Raikiri, but he has shown to use it in a slashing style against the Bijuu which pretty much confirms that he was able to (though I shouldn't need that to know it). IF he knows to go for the head, than it might kill her.

However I haven't given Tsunade her fair credit here (this is where underestimation plays its usual role). If Kakashi is simply going to run up and try to feint Tsunade, I doubt it's going to work. She has been known to change the whole terrain of a battlefield and disrupt an opponent's footing. It's her way of using her strength in a creative way. Plus since Sakura was able to figure out that Kakashi was hiding underground rather easily, Tsunade might be able to as well. Tsunade doesn't suck THAT bad at taijutsu - even when she was tired against a refreshed Kabuto because of the pill, she was able to push Kabuto away right after he disabled her muscles (A HUGE WEAKNESS FOR HER). That could have potentially done a lot of damage if she was at full strength.

With that in mind, you also have to factor in Kakashi's intelligence, clone feints, multitude of jutsu, and even Kamui. But to defend Tsunade once again, there is still Katsuyu to keep in mind. I cannot see Kakashi doing very well if Tsunade stays on top of her giant slug out of harm's way. That would mean Kakashi would be inclined to use Kamui, meaning she was one of the harder opponents to fight.

Now if he DOESN'T know about the seal, Tsunade should easily be able to surprise him once he impales her chest with Raikiri. She's been known to heal from around the same spot with Orochimaru, so this can easily become Kakuzu's surprise attack Version 2.
 

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Honestly the way I see it, Kakashi going for a head-chop is logical if he knows about Tsunade's special seal in her head. I mostly say this because we can relate the same instance to others' fights in the manga.

Raikiri is known as a very powerful jutsu because it's almost impossible to out-do in close quarter combat. If Kakashi gets in close, this could be another A vs Sasuke instance, where Sasuke uses his Sharingan to dodge the fatal blow to his face and instead gets through A's speed and hurts him. Normally I'd say this would be harder since Kakashi usually stabs with his Raikiri, but he has shown to use it in a slashing style against the Bijuu which pretty much confirms that he was able to (though I shouldn't need that to know it). IF he knows to go for the head, than it might kill her.

However I haven't given Tsunade her fair credit here (this is where underestimation plays its usual role). If Kakashi is simply going to run up and try to feint Tsunade, I doubt it's going to work. She has been known to change the whole terrain of a battlefield and disrupt an opponent's footing. It's her way of using her strength in a creative way. Plus since Sakura was able to figure out that Kakashi was hiding underground rather easily, Tsunade might be able to as well. Tsunade doesn't suck THAT bad at taijutsu - even when she was tired against a refreshed Kabuto because of the pill, she was able to push Kabuto away right after he disabled her muscles (A HUGE WEAKNESS FOR HER). That could have potentially done a lot of damage if she was at full strength.

With that in mind, you also have to factor in Kakashi's intelligence, clone feints, multitude of jutsu, and even Kamui. But to defend Tsunade once again, there is still Katsuyu to keep in mind. I cannot see Kakashi doing very well if Tsunade stays on top of her giant slug out of harm's way. That would mean Kakashi would be inclined to use Kamui, meaning she was one of the harder opponents to fight.

Now if he DOESN'T know about the seal, Tsunade should easily be able to surprise him once he impales her chest with Raikiri. She's been known to heal from around the same spot with Orochimaru, so this can easily become Kakuzu's surprise attack Version 2.

+rep for the bolded part especially but as well for the way of telling your opinion.
very balanced and mature. :)
 

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Honestly the way I see it, Kakashi going for a head-chop is logical if he knows about Tsunade's special seal in her head. I mostly say this because we can relate the same instance to others' fights in the manga.

Raikiri is known as a very powerful jutsu because it's almost impossible to out-do in close quarter combat. If Kakashi gets in close, this could be another A vs Sasuke instance, where Sasuke uses his Sharingan to dodge the fatal blow to his face and instead gets through A's speed and hurts him. Normally I'd say this would be harder since Kakashi usually stabs with his Raikiri, but he has shown to use it in a slashing style against the Bijuu which pretty much confirms that he was able to (though I shouldn't need that to know it). IF he knows to go for the head, than it might kill her.

However I haven't given Tsunade her fair credit here (this is where underestimation plays its usual role). If Kakashi is simply going to run up and try to feint Tsunade, I doubt it's going to work. She has been known to change the whole terrain of a battlefield and disrupt an opponent's footing. It's her way of using her strength in a creative way. Plus since Sakura was able to figure out that Kakashi was hiding underground rather easily, Tsunade might be able to as well. Tsunade doesn't suck THAT bad at taijutsu - even when she was tired against a refreshed Kabuto because of the pill, she was able to push Kabuto away right after he disabled her muscles (A HUGE WEAKNESS FOR HER). That could have potentially done a lot of damage if she was at full strength.

With that in mind, you also have to factor in Kakashi's intelligence, clone feints, multitude of jutsu, and even Kamui. But to defend Tsunade once again, there is still Katsuyu to keep in mind. I cannot see Kakashi doing very well if Tsunade stays on top of her giant slug out of harm's way. That would mean Kakashi would be inclined to use Kamui, meaning she was one of the harder opponents to fight.

Now if he DOESN'T know about the seal, Tsunade should easily be able to surprise him once he impales her chest with Raikiri. She's been known to heal from around the same spot with Orochimaru, so this can easily become Kakuzu's surprise attack Version 2.

first post ive seen actually stating why tsunade might beat kakashi and it was well explained +repp but i still go for kakashi U_U her taijutsu is basically useless considering he can just read and predict her movements.
 

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IMO its a high chance she knows kamui but its still speculation.

kakashi can make her relieve some of her painful memories of dan or her little brother that died i don't think she can take that..

''suggest she knows genjutsu''

your not really saying how tsunade would beat kakashi. :cool:

she has a 3.5 in genjutsu btw...

All she would need is one punch. Kakashi goes in for a close range attack and BAM! Reading her movements would be useless at a close enough range. And thanks Drakenguard I forgot about Katsuyu. The genjutsu stat is her abilities in using it not her knowledge of it. Kakashi is strong but Tsunade would win more times out of ten. Man i need to stop this. See you later :)
 
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