The Biggest Plot hole in Naruto!?

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One of the biggest plot holes to me is the byakugan. We dont knw crap about its history. Is it related to SO6P eye techs? is it related to Sharingan? is it like a senju and uzumaki distant relative realtionship but with Uchiha and hyuuga? Can byakugan upgrade to rinnegan like sharingan? Or just where the hell did it come from?

In Part 1 the byakugan was pretty equal with the sharingan plus it had better insight. know its not complete fodder but it has had no upgrades or increased powers.
Did kishi just forget about?
Maybe he is planning something special for it?

What are thoughts and feelings.
 

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I don't think he can really do too much with the Byakugan now...seeing how the series seems like it's coming to an end. And if he does then it would just seem like he's tossing out powerups to me, even though the Byakugan was due for one a long time ago. :|
 

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A plot hole, or plothole, is a gap or inconsistency in a storyline that goes against the flow of logic established by the story's plot, or constitutes a blatant omission of relevant information regarding the plot. These include such things as unlikely behaviour or actions of characters, illogical or impossible events, events happening for no apparent reason, or statements/events that contradict earlier events in the storyline.

1.Chakra stamina/levels
They don't make a lick of sense. If you remember how chakra control is explained then none of it makes sense. Low stamina comes from wasting chakra but Kakashi who has perfected his chakra has low stamina. Naruto who has always wasted his chakra has tons of stamina. WTF
2.The next generation surpasses the last. This was a huge theme. Naruto>J-man, Sasuke>Orochimaru, Sakura..fails. Then all of Edo ninja are way stronger than their counter parts.
3. technology. Did you notice the TVs the lords used?
4. Summoning/teleporting: if Minato can use seals to transport himself instantly why doesn't everyone use that to get around?
5. Tsukuyomi. If Tobi has an MS and can use Tsukuyomi why doesn't he do that to the Kage at the summit? Same for Sasuke.
 

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The byakugon will come into better context through the relationship of Naruto and Hinata. Kishi has been hinting towards this. Their relationship will spawn either a power-up or flashbacks of more importance to the storyline.



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One of the biggest plot holes to me is the byakugan. We dont knw crap about its history. Is it related to SO6P eye techs? is it related to Sharingan? is it like a senju and uzumaki distant relative realtionship but with Uchiha and hyuuga? Can byakugan upgrade to rinnegan like sharingan? Or just where the hell did it come from?

In Part 1 the byakugan was pretty equal with the sharingan plus it had better insight. know its not complete fodder but it has had no upgrades or increased powers.
Did kishi just forget about?
Maybe he is planning something special for it?

What are thoughts and feelings.
Don't forget that only 5Uchiwa(Madara,Izuna,Itachi,Sasuke,Shisui), and before the generation of Itachi, there was only 2 who had the MS(Madara and Izuna) in all Uchiwa clan history. The other had only regular sharingan at best so far we know. And regular sharingan is comparable to Byakugan. In each clan there are genius(like Neji is also a genius in Hyuga clan), but if you compare the other Uchiwas to Hyugas the difference of power won't be that huge. I even think that in certain circumstances, Hyugas are better.

Now you talk about MS or EMS which makes the sharingan far more stronger than Byakugan, but you forget the sacrifice you should make to have it. For MS, you must killed your best friend. For EMS, you must steal your brothers eyes. Do you really think Hyugas even if the could do something like that, would accept that? Maybe but it depends on people.
 

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Don't forget that only 5Uchiwa(Madara,Izuna,Itachi,Sasuke,Shisui), and before the generation of Itachi, there was only 2 who had the MS(Madara and Izuna) in all Uchiwa clan history. The other had only regular sharingan at best so far we know. And regular sharingan is comparable to Byakugan. In each clan there are genius(like Neji is also a genius in Hyuga clan), but if you compare the other Uchiwas to Hyugas the difference of power won't be that huge. I even think that in certain circumstances, Hyugas are better.

Now you talk about MS or EMS which makes the sharingan far more stronger than Byakugan, but you forget the sacrifice you should make to have it. For MS, you must killed your best friend. For EMS, you must steal your brothers eyes. Do you really think Hyugas even if the could do something like that, would accept that? Maybe but it depends on people.


Yah i agree. +rep. I have a problem is that its lineage has not been explained at all.
 

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A plot hole, or plothole, is a gap or inconsistency in a storyline that goes against the flow of logic established by the story's plot, or constitutes a blatant omission of relevant information regarding the plot. These include such things as unlikely behaviour or actions of characters, illogical or impossible events, events happening for no apparent reason, or statements/events that contradict earlier events in the storyline.

1.Chakra stamina/levels
They don't make a lick of sense. If you remember how chakra control is explained then none of it makes sense. Low stamina comes from wasting chakra but Kakashi who has perfected his chakra has low stamina. Naruto who has always wasted his chakra has tons of stamina. WTF
2.The next generation surpasses the last. This was a huge theme. Naruto>J-man, Sasuke>Orochimaru, Sakura..fails. Then all of Edo ninja are way stronger than their counter parts.
3. technology. Did you notice the TVs the lords used?
4. Summoning/teleporting: if Minato can use seals to transport himself instantly why doesn't everyone use that to get around?
5. Tsukuyomi. If Tobi has an MS and can use Tsukuyomi why doesn't he do that to the Kage at the summit? Same for Sasuke.
1)Chakra levels are somewhat of a mystery because it has never really been set in stone how much a person has. We can only go off of how much they have shown that they have.
2)This is actually mostly correct as many of the younger generation are beginning to surpass their masters.
3)Kishi did say there would be technology, though it wouldn't be high tech. More like 16-32 bit computers at best.
4)Its probably a special seal that only he and choice few others are capabnle of. The designs were based off of the famous uzumaki clan seals and specially design for combat by minato himself.
5)Its not even known if he is truly an uchiha. He has never said that he had tsukuyomi and therefore doesn't use it. Sasuke tried at it the Kage summit at A, but due to A's raiton armor, it was considered ineffectual. Also, it was noted by Danzo that sasuke's tsukuyomi is relatively weaker than Itachi's so it wouldn't have the same effect.
 

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It is not a plothole because it isn't relevant to the main storyline and doesn't need to be explained for the story to make sense.
Actually, we don't know the actual origins of the sharingan itself, so all we have to go by is the statement made in the manga by kakashi. He said that the uchiha clan originated from the hyuuga clan, which seems unlikely as the byakugan is very weak in comparison to the powers of MS and EMS. Usually, the originators of the doujutsu would have more power as they are not watered down through out history, but kakashi's statement is in direct conflict with this. That is the plothole.
 
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