Why is tobi not obito..

[NarutoKage2]

This thread and what it suggests is impossible from a logical standpoint.

1. Real Madara died 'shortly' after activating the rinnegan. Nagato was a 6 y/o kid in the 2nd Ninja war, so this had to have been before this time.
2. Madara knows the masked man, he said this is his doing, the his referring to Tobi.
3. Obito was a 13 year old in the 3rd great ninja war, which happened years after the 2nd ninja war, and before Obito was born the masked man had already met the real Madara and he also had to give Nagato the rinnegan, so it can't be him.


Of course kishi might just forget/ignore the timeline than who knows what may happen. The only reason i say this is because, well Kakashi kinda is at Tobi's location....

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

This thread and what it suggests is impossible from a logical standpoint.

1. Real Madara died 'shortly' after activating the rinnegan. Nagato was a 6 y/o kid in the 2nd Ninja war, so this had to have been before this time.
2. Madara knows the masked man, he said this is his doing, the his referring to Tobi.
3. Obito was a 13 year old in the 3rd great ninja war, which happened years after the 2nd ninja war, and before Obito was born the masked man had already met the real Madara and he also had to give Nagato the rinnegan, so it can't be him.


Of course kishi might just forget/ignore the timeline than who knows what may happen. The only reason i say this is because, well Kakashi kinda is at Tobi's location....

I was agreeing with everything you said apart from "and before Obito was born the masked man had already met the real Madara and he also had to give Nagato the rinnegan, so it can't be him." well not disagree this is complete correct but as my theory says madara created zetsu plant like clone and gave him the rinnegan to give to nagato to revive him. And for obito.. my theory

"Here's my theory obito's near death experience enabled him to unlock his abilty to become intangible and pass through solid objects and bearly makes it out alive from the underground cave with the right side of his body half crushed. Right after this he encountered Zetsu who meets this young boy with special eye powers and saves him. I belive Zetsu is some sort of creation by madara “The way i see it is that , when madara was dying he activated the rinnengan, and let zetsu take the rinnengan from him, along with the harashima cells, and also some of madara's own DNA.He then let zetsu implant all of these things into a piece of zetsu body like a big enough chunk to make a body , hence developing a second madara. That had all his memories(or possibly he could of extracted his entire brain?) and shit.”

And later infused this body with obito who he found because he needed the body of an uchiha and this was he’s perfect chance because the uchiha’s were all still alive and he didn’t want to engage into combat."

 

[Nokturn]

Whew! Ok I have completely read ur thread and it's a good hunch but ur reasoning as to why it isn't the 1st born of the Rikudou sennin isn't good enough. Madara boasted to the five kage that he would have shown hashirama how to live longer if he knew they were gonna be so weak. If anyone can extend their life that long it would be the 1st born of the sage of the six paths. There's too much that we don't know about the ocular powers of the Rinnegan and sharingan. Who do u think wrote the stone monument and passed it down for generations of Uchiha it wasn't the sage. Also the Rinnegan skips countless generations before it appears again and Tobi at least has 4 pairs. Each jinchuuriki had one Rinnegan and he has one. I like ur assumption though i just think this is more probable. That or Tobi's the 1st Hokage! Lol

 

[Aero]

I have no idea what you said could you re-explain please

try english classes

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

Whew! Ok I have completely read ur thread and it's a good hunch but ur reasoning as to why it isn't the 1st born of the Rikudou sennin isn't good enough. Madara boasted to the five kage that he would have shown hashirama how to live longer if he knew they were gonna be so weak. If anyone can extend their life that long it would be the 1st born of the sage of the six paths. There's too much that we don't know about the ocular powers of the Rinnegan and sharingan. Who do u think wrote the stone monument and passed it down for generations of Uchiha it wasn't the sage. Also the Rinnegan skips countless generations before it appears again and Tobi at least has 4 pairs. Each jinchuuriki had one Rinnegan and he has one. I like ur assumption though i just think this is more probable. That or Tobi's the 1st Hokage! Lol

Yh I didn't want to go into to much detail on why I believe he isn't the 1st born son of the rikudou.

Madara said I would of taught you how to bring you self back from the dead I believe not live longer (I think).

And for living longer I would believe the power would actually go to the younger son as he had the sage's body, Uzumakis are distance relatives of the sage's younger son and they have the ability to live very long.

I'm pretty sure tobi on has one pair of the rinnegan one in his eye and one he's keeping somewhere

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

try english classes

No, my English is fine it was actually your English that didn't make sense. I'm asking nicely if you could re-explain yourself.

We hv seen kakshi.during the time of 4ths fight with nine tails,well if obito did survive he wud hv grown too natural phenomena

his left side of face was never evealed,so there might be a possibility that he could hv implanted sharingan and all the shade was added to conceal the scar

also he could hv used izanagi with his right eye instead he chose his left eye makin even more suspicious that left eye cud be implanted

masked man huh,i guess wat surprise he really has for us

This was your post that I didn't get

 

[EonForce42]

First, if Kakashi and Obito were similar in age how did Obito face the 4th as a man while Kakashi was still a teenager? Secondly, we have seen the left side of his face and it okay .Third, if it was Obito after everyone and there momma had said it was, why would Kishi still not reveal his face?

 

[EonForce42]

No, my English is fine it was actually your English that didn't make sense. I'm asking nicely if you could re-explain yourself.




This was your post that I didn't get

Read my post below and it's basically the same thing.

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

First, if Kakashi and Obito were similar in age how did Obito face the 4th as a man while Kakashi was still a teenager? Secondly, we have seen the left side of his face and it okay .Third, if it was Obito after everyone and there momma had said it was, why would Kishi still not reveal his face?

1st PoinSenjut: If my theory is true then obito would of had uchiha dna (from madara) and Senju dna (from the 1st hokage) from the zetsu.

2nd point: We have NEVER seen the left side of tobi's face NEVER

3rd: This I dunno, who ever tobi is I dunno why kishi has not revealed his face yet. He's been dragging the who is tobi thing out for to long

 

[lnvalid]

2nd point: We have NEVER seen the left side of tobi's face NEVER

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...Never...? rly?

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

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...Never...? rly?

Yes we have NEVER seen the LEFT side of his face as you can see in that picture the left side is faded black so we can't see it

 

[Genduko]

the only thing that gets me is the age of tobi "obito" when he fought the 4th he was and adult the age difference is a huge leap as we see kakashi as teenager and tobi who may be obito as and adult when kakashi and Obito are around the same age give or take a year.
your theory on this?


also is it possible that madara uchia was still alive when obito died?

 

[soulless uchiha]

how does obito have an old mans voice when he fought the 4th? people say his one crushed side is the sharingan that we see most of the time, but its crushed! kakashi took his other eye while his other one was crushed. if he's the same age as kakashi, then why does he have an old face when he fought konan, or when he revealed part of his face to sasuke?

 

[lnvalid]

Yes we have NEVER seen the LEFT side of his face as you can see in that picture the left side is faded black so we can't see it

your argument for the 'left side" is about obito and him losing the eye. The pic shows both eyes.
Just admit it dude, its just sad at this point. What the hell are you trying to prove? We all already know its not obito, We have seen BOTH sharigan on tobi, unlike obito would have. check and mate dude. its over. walk away...

 

[Genduko]

your argument for the 'left side" is about obito and him losing the eye. The pic shows both eyes.
Just admit it dude, its just sad at this point. What the hell are you trying to prove? We all already know its not obito, We have seen BOTH sharigan on tobi, unlike obito would have. check and mate dude. its over. walk away...

i believe he meant the left sides face not just the eye and if you read this persons theory you would see that he may have transplanted another sharingan into his empty eye socket as he has a laboratory full of sharingan and has knowledge of transplanting eyes as he transplanted itachi's eyes into sasuke and the rinnegan into his left eye

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

the only thing that gets me is the age of tobi "obito" when he fought the 4th he was and adult the age difference is a huge leap as we see kakashi as teenager and tobi who may be obito as and adult when kakashi and Obito are around the same age give or take a year.
your theory on this?


also is it possible that madara uchia was still alive when obito died?

With madara and the 1st dna in him it changed him abit, also look at tobi when he was first introduced he was older then when he attacked the village yet he talked like a kid.

What I just said now goes for the post which is quoted below aswell

how does obito have an old mans voice when he fought the 4th? people say his one crushed side is the sharingan that we see most of the time, but its crushed! kakashi took his other eye while his other one was crushed. if he's the same age as kakashi, then why does he have an old face when he fought konan, or when he revealed part of his face to sasuke?

hmm we don't no how deep the rock crushed him it could of just crushed him a few centimetres pushing his sharingan back. And if your face has been crushed it would look squashed like this..

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[lnvalid]

but we all admit obitos face was crushed on the left side, socket and all. unless he had facial reconstruction surgery you cant put an eye in a socket that no longer exists. Thats MY point.

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

your argument for the 'left side" is about obito and him losing the eye. The pic shows both eyes.
Just admit it dude, its just sad at this point. What the hell are you trying to prove? We all already know its not obito, We have seen BOTH sharigan on tobi, unlike obito would have. check and mate dude. its over. walk away...

Noo tobi has many sharingan !!!!! didn't you see when he translated itachi's eyes into sasuke or was it just me who saw this !!!

 

[soulless uchiha]

With madara and the 1st dna in him it changed him abit, also look at tobi when he was first introduced he was older then when he attacked the village yet he talked like a kid.

What I just said now goes for the post which is quoted below aswell



hmm we don't no how deep the rock crushed him it could of just crushed him a few centimetres pushing his sharingan back. And if your face has been crushed it would look squashed like this..

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you cant use that face cuz its not even canon. some random person created that picture

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

but we all admit obitos face was crushed on the left side, socket and all. unless he had facial reconstruction surgery you cant put an eye in a socket that no longer exists. Thats MY point.

Hmm true but we don't know for suree how badly it was crushed or if it destroyed his eye socket do we