Edo Tensei does not count towards an individuals own strength

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Edo tensei is a mere summoning jutsu just like the toads are for Minato, Jiraiya, and Naruto. It pretty much is a part of the shinobi's power.



this.. edo tensei is like using a tool and it's part of a ninja technique you possess so yes it is your power, if anyone can use it they would but they can't
 

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Wrong it's his power. It counts towards his strength don't be hating bro.
 

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Agreed 100%

Kabuto's Sage mode now makes him one of the top, but Edo Tensei doesn't.
Kabuto isn't even controlling them. Controlling them means he is dictating what techniques they use and when. He's only forcing them to fight, but now how they fight.

what? kabuto was controlling them.. well some of them, the others he gave basic instructions..

he controlled nagato throughout the entire 3v1 fight..

that was HIS skill with nagato... like a gamer playing with a char... he even forgot that nagato had chibaku tensei untill the end..

ofc the real nagato wouldn't fight like that.. but in the end it was him using jutsu, him moving etc, it was his power
 

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Whether people want to acknowledge it or not, Kabuto is smart. He went about things the way he did for a reason.

And yeah Kabuto's defiantely a coward, fighting two of the most talented Uchiha by himself. He such a whimp. :|
 
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It doesn't Count in a linear sense, but don't Discount it. He has to be able to manage all of them (like 15 minds worth at once, and how each of their bodies and techniques works), feed them chakra, ect. Additionally, he has many formidable techniques of his own, such as multi-layered regeneration, body reformation and resistance to many forms of damage. All in all, he is worth about 10ish +/- 6 pages of playtime for Itachi in order to allow time for Madara to fight the Kages.

I do not think he has to feed them chakra, they have unlimited chakra, stamina, and health when they are summoned. I think it only uses chakra at the summoning point. But my point is theoretically anyone has access to this move, and can get power shinobi to fight for them. Say if it was ten ten using this move would you say she would be a top 5 ninja?

But I agree that kabuto can be good on his own with his new dragon sage mode.
 
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Whether people want to acknowledge it or not, Kabuto is smart. He went about things the way he did for a reason.

And yeah Kabuto's defiantely a coward, fighting two of the most talented Uchiha by himself. He such a whimp. :|

Lol dude. They had to track him down through forests and mountains. The they had to bust down a barrier with sasunno. Don't act he was the agressor here. Even during the fight he is running away to the depths of the cave.
 

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Summoning and other techniques ninja use are merely tools to make them stronger ..... a tool is only as strong as its user
 

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I agree, but at the same time its no different to a summoning technique.
Tbh we have gone past that because majority has been sealed and with that kabuto's powers has decreased
 

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It still takes incredible ability to master this jutsu! Tobirama and Oro (the only previous 2 who could use this jutsu) could control about 2 or 3 people. Kabuto has far surpassed their abilities and is able to control numerous bodies, enough to fight a war! According to your logic, Madara isn't as strong as he is hyped up to be (before he died NOT EDO) and neither is tobi because a huge part of what they do is control the Tailed beasts. They don't actually fight but it takes massive skill to be able to summon and/or control them
 

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Lol dude. They had to track him down through forests and mountains. The they had to bust down a barrier with sasunno. Don't act he was the agressor here. Even during the fight he is running away to the depths of the cave.

He is a snake. What exactly do you expect?

His place wasn't on the battlefield, seeing as he was controlling all those Edo's. Also, if the Edo's were his responsibilty, wouldn't it make sense he would be as far away from the war as possible?
 

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I hate it too when people say Kabuto is in the top 5 but I have to accept that fact. Edo Tensei is in his arsenal and gets to choose if he wants to use it or not.
 

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He is a snake. What exactly do you expect?

His place wasn't on the battlefield, seeing as he was controlling all those Edo's. Also, if the Edo's were his responsibilty, wouldn't it make sense he would be as far away from the war as possible?

Orochimaru is a snake and yet he fought 4-tailed Naruto
Kabuto only fought Tsunade which i wouldnt call a feat
 

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So if kabuto brings backs The sage and can control him than he is by far the most powerful ninja in history?

He would have nagato madara and the actual sage in his possession(while he never actually fights nor need to full control them)

Difference with him and a real puppeteer in naruto is that they're some risk with controlling something/someone. Nagato used extreme amount of chakra, ino lost control of her own body, Kankurou/Sasori is actually on the battle field mid/close range.


Kabuto is basically hiding..this is not his power.
His new sage mode is his power.
 

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Orochimaru is a snake and yet he fought 4-tailed Naruto
Kabuto only fought Tsunade which i wouldnt call a feat

1- That's because Orochimaru was a Bawssss
2- I'm not denying Kabuto's a snake, but at the same time, look at the grand scheme of things. He's killed countless ninja with Edo Tensei.
3- Even if you do call him a coward, he's fighting the Uchiha brothers, which is another feat in it's own right. Whether he loses or not ( which he will ) how many ninja can fight the Uchiha brothers and win anyway? xd
 

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Thats not his strength grandma chiyo controlled sakura to destroy hiriko does that mean she has super strength

two totally different things.. one - sakura was attacking on her own, the only thing chiyo was doing was helping her dodge things...

mid fight sakura started dodging all by herself
 
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I hate it too when people say Kabuto is in the top 5 but I have to accept that fact. Edo Tensei is in his arsenal and gets to choose if he wants to use it or not.

Yes he can use it whenever he wants but it his not his own power. He is getiing people to fight for him. I guess if kabuto were to summon the sage of six paths, that would make him the most powerful ninja ever right?
 
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