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Who do you think Tobi is:

  • Jubbi

    Votes: 21 3.0%
  • Sage of Six Paths

    Votes: 10 1.4%
  • Elder son of Sage of Sixth Path

    Votes: 65 9.3%
  • Izuna uchiha

    Votes: 105 15.0%
  • Kagami uchiha

    Votes: 71 10.1%
  • Obito Uchiha

    Votes: 77 11.0%
  • Fugaku Uchiha

    Votes: 16 2.3%
  • Zetsu

    Votes: 16 2.3%
  • Madara's split personality (created before original body died.)

    Votes: 66 9.4%
  • A copycat whose rolemodel is Madara.

    Votes: 13 1.9%
  • Tobirama

    Votes: 15 2.1%
  • An unknown Uchiha

    Votes: 23 3.3%
  • Real Madara in Zetsu body

    Votes: 28 4.0%
  • Some one from Madara's time ( can't decide though)

    Votes: 7 1.0%
  • Danzou

    Votes: 8 1.1%
  • Setsuna Uchiha

    Votes: 7 1.0%
  • Shisui

    Votes: 14 2.0%
  • An Uzumaki

    Votes: 15 2.1%
  • Madara's Son

    Votes: 23 3.3%
  • A woman

    Votes: 21 3.0%
  • Obito's father

    Votes: 19 2.7%
  • Someone Other than these

    Votes: 24 3.4%
  • First Edo tensie

    Votes: 7 1.0%
  • An alien ( Superman/ HeMan/whatnot)

    Votes: 7 1.0%
  • I am the best. I have no theory. ( Not anymore at least.)

    Votes: 22 3.1%

  • Total voters
    700
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Re: [Theory][Spoiler] Analysis - Tobi's S/T tech and identity

I have been thinking about Kakashi's and Tobi's Time-Space tech...
There is no need for briefing the techs, you all know but anyway,
Kamui-The only known user is Kakashi. And it transports the target to an unknown dimension...
Tobi's S/T tech: Also transports the target to different dimension from where till now nobody escaped.
Both are shown to have a spiraling pattern when used.
My actual theory starts now...

^^ I think Tobi uses a variant of Kamui (this theory is already there)

Secret behind Tobi's S/T ninjutsu

I think the secret behind Tobi's S/T ninjutsu is that he creates a hole in other dimension and uses perfect Kamui on himself then enters the dimension from where he again opens a portal through which he comes out wherever he wants.
We all know that kamui is a versatile tech and is wide ranged this explains the appearance of Tobi at desired space.
Tobi said to Kakashi that tech like kamui wont work on him, which leads me to think that Tobi knows in and out of Kamui...​
So who has highest chance of having same tech as Kakashi? Well that would be logically obito right? I am entering into that branch of theory as it has been explained over and over by various ppl.

So who hell is Tobi? My theory
^^ We all know that certain sharingan abilities can be passed down to others like for example Itachi's amaterasu to Sasuke...
I think Tobi is a new character to be introduced in the series, since its not new to introduce new faces, who might be a parent or sibling of Obito..
^^ Tobi can also be most likely an uchiha or Uzumaki since he can use Sharingan and Rinnegan with ease...


Theory on how Tobi lived long..
^^ Now you may ask then how Tobi lived so long if he is from a distant past... I think the unknown dimension slows/freezes time which would explain that question, though its a long stretch or 1st Hokages cells might helped him achieve it partially, its only a theory.. lol...​
So what you ppl think?
Post your views.
There may be many loopholes and flaws, this is where it calls for "discussion".
Rate my theory if you have time...:scorps:


tbh ive seen all of this b4 its nothing new.
no point of this thread. obito being tobi makes no logic sense
 

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Re: [Theory][Spoiler] Analysis - Tobi's S/T tech and identity

the chance of tobi being an uzumaki is very low .....since the uzumaki clan was famous fory its red hairs....though i m not sure ..cuz naruto has his dad's hairs ....anyway ...i think that ...he actually first appeared during itachi's mission , wen itachi was an anbu leader....next we saw him during the nine tails attack .....also danzo was familiar with this guy tobi , but i dont think he knew tobi's actual identity .......
now he can be izuna uchiha ......since madara said that "its his doing " this means that madara knew about it .....we aw the dead body of izuna ...it can be fake ...a genjutsu or something ...see faking a dead body is not a big deal in ninja world ......now madara took izuna's MS to gain EMS .....so izuna was left without eyes ...but he stole eyes from another dead uchiha .....now wen madara was dying ....he passed some of hashirama's cells to izuna ...

i can b wrong
 
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the chance of tobi being an uzumaki is very low .....since the uzumaki clan was famous fory its red hairs....though i m not sure ..cuz naruto has his dad's hairs ....anyway ...i think that ...he actually first appeared during itachi's mission , wen itachi was an anbu leader....next we saw him during the nine tails attack .....also danzo was familiar with this guy tobi , but i dont think he knew tobi's actual identity .......
now he can be izuna uchiha ......since madara said that "its his doing " this means that madara knew about it .....we aw the dead body of izuna ...it can be fake ...a genjutsu or something ...see faking a dead body is not a big deal in ninja world ......now madara took izuna's MS to gain EMS .....so izuna was left without eyes ...but he stole eyes from another dead uchiha .....now wen madara was dying ....he passed some of hashirama's cells to izuna ...

i can b wrong
^^ Danzo thought Tobi is Madara.
You say that Izuna without eye, betrayed by Madara is in ally with Madara..?
 

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Re: [Theory][Spoiler] Analysis - Tobi's S/T tech and identity

I like this theory, especially the dimension slowing aging thing. But Tobias has to be about tsunade's age if not older. In my opinion.
 

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Re: [Theory][Spoiler] Analysis - Tobi's S/T tech and identity

Nice Theory Bro
^^ Thanks.:)
I like this theory, especially the dimension slowing aging thing. But Tobias has to be about tsunade's age if not older. In my opinion.
^^ Thats why Tobi is this much older, otherwise he would have been dead or at around 120 yrs of age..
Thanks..:)
 

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Re: [Theory][Spoiler] Analysis - Tobi's S/T tech and identity

Okay nice point .........see ..if we believe that Izuna willingly gave his eyes to madara ...as said by tobi ....and acquired another set of sharingan eyes to battle ....now he has new eyes ....and he is an ally of madara ....see there's no proof that madara betrayd izuna ...it's all the view point of itachi and tobi ......i guess orochimaru too had some sort of connection with tobi
 

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Re: [Theory][Spoiler] Analysis - Tobi's S/T tech and identity

How can Tobi ever be obito. Obito was a really nice person and not selfish at all and cared a lot about his comrades and the village. Now look at Tobi. The personalitys really do not match.
 

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Re: [Theory][Spoiler] Analysis - Tobi's S/T tech and identity

I have been thinking about Kakashi's and Tobi's Time-Space tech...
There is no need for briefing the techs, you all know but anyway,
Kamui-The only known user is Kakashi. And it transports the target to an unknown dimension...
Tobi's S/T tech: Also transports the target to different dimension from where till now nobody escaped.
Both are shown to have a spiraling pattern when used.
My actual theory starts now...

^^ I think Tobi uses a variant of Kamui (this theory is already there)

Secret behind Tobi's S/T ninjutsu

I think the secret behind Tobi's S/T ninjutsu is that he creates a hole in other dimension and uses perfect Kamui on himself then enters the dimension from where he again opens a portal through which he comes out wherever he wants.
We all know that kamui is a versatile tech and is wide ranged this explains the appearance of Tobi at desired space.
Tobi said to Kakashi that tech like kamui wont work on him, which leads me to think that Tobi knows in and out of Kamui...​
So who has highest chance of having same tech as Kakashi? Well that would be logically obito right? I am entering into that branch of theory as it has been explained over and over by various ppl.

So who hell is Tobi? My theory
^^ We all know that certain sharingan abilities can be passed down to others like for example Itachi's amaterasu to Sasuke...
I think Tobi is a new character to be introduced in the series, since its not new to introduce new faces, who might be a parent or sibling of Obito..
^^ Tobi can also be most likely an uchiha or Uzumaki since he can use Sharingan and Rinnegan with ease...


Theory on how Tobi lived long..
^^ Now you may ask then how Tobi lived so long if he is from a distant past... I think the unknown dimension slows/freezes time which would explain that question, though its a long stretch or 1st Hokages cells might helped him achieve it partially, its only a theory.. lol...​
So what you ppl think?
Post your views.
There may be many loopholes and flaws, this is where it calls for "discussion".
Rate my theory if you have time...:scorps:

Nice theory btw.
 

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Re: [Theory][Spoiler] Analysis - Tobi's S/T tech and identity

1. When did Obito if he is Tobi, get the chance to attain the rinnegan.

2. He persuaded Yahiko to start the Akatsuki in Amegakure?
 

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Re: [Theory][Spoiler] Analysis - Tobi's S/T tech and identity

Clearly he is Izuna, durrrr.When Izuna died, he talked with the rinnegan ancestor, similar to what kakashi did with his father. Madara brought him back and Izuna came back with new knowledge and abilities thanks to the rinn ancestor. THis gave him power to travel through dimensions and the rage to fufill the plan that started with the elder ancestor's jealousy.
 

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Re: [Theory][Spoiler] Analysis - Tobi's S/T tech and identity

Clearly he is Izuna, durrrr.When Izuna died, he talked with the rinnegan ancestor, similar to what kakashi did with his father. Madara brought him back and Izuna came back with new knowledge and abilities thanks to the rinn ancestor. THis gave him power to travel through dimensions and the rage to fufill the plan that started with the elder ancestor's jealousy.
How can you be so sure that Madara has a power to bring back the dead??
one more thing, How come Izuna posses Hashi's cells?

if u can answer above questions then your theory is good i say
 

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Re: [Theory][Spoiler] Analysis - Tobi's S/T tech and identity

Good theory, and it shows that you put some thought into it. You are right that Tobi could be literally anybody (new or old to the series), and it's nice to see a theory that does not involve hair styles or body types (i.e. things that tend to change over time).
 

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Re: [Theory][Spoiler] Analysis - Tobi's S/T tech and identity

I made a similar thread about this a long time ago. However, I was speculating that Tobi is a combination of Izunas DNA and the left side of Black Zetsu. Then they found the other sharingan in Obito's corpse and took it for their own use, thus giving Tobi access to the perfect form of Kamui.

 

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Re: What if Izuna...

i'm with you on this. Tobizuna died in chapter 577



are you kidding me? Izuna theory is dead, 2 facts confirm this

1) first and foremost, Madara knows who Tobi is - HE KNOWS

2) then Madara stated that Izuna died

what more do you need? :sy:
^ This

Madara does know who Tobi is. Tobi is following the same plan mentioned by Madara(Moon's eye plan) and Kabuto mentioned him to real Madara as "fake Madara".

I am Kabuto.. his partner/coworker (Kirin's translation)


Do you know OUR plan as well?


Not in detail but I am on YOUR side..


Though I am unsure if FAKE MADARA will act as PLANNED


Mankind will be better served sleeping peacefuly in the Infite Tsukuyomi.


There's something I want to make sure of... It appears you haven't caught the Kyuubi yet.



Madara knowns Tobi and he confirmed Izuna's death. Aside from this, Izuna was confirmed dead in Tobi's flashback (lying in a coffin along with other fallen Uchiha's) and he was confirmed to be dead in 3rd databook.
 

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Re: Official Tobi ID thread:All Tobi theories go here:-

great ..another one:| ..that is just a dumb "theory" made by some kid that want that to happen as many others .. and even that shit is true,than all Naruto Universe is gone be ruined by a C4 placed right on the base of it ..is a pathetic story that would ruin a wonderful story
 
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