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[teutonicknite]

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Mad!
Buy a sword and try it on yourself!!!

 

[Nightjoker]

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Only one problem with this. Madara seems to know Tobi, and when Madara was alive, Obito wasn't even born.

 

[cozolinofly]

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training .. if you go back and watch at itachi he had MS before he killed his entire village ...

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

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This is the best tobi theory so far.. IMO :scorps:

 

[Houssem Uchiha]

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man that is one long thread but i assure you i red all of it and i think i agree obito is a very possible candidate to be tobi lol we just have to wait

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

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Only one problem with this. Madara seems to know Tobi, and when Madara was alive, Obito wasn't even born.

My theory again..
"Here's my theory obito's near death experience enabled him to unlock his abilty to become intangible and pass through solid objects and bearly makes it out alive from the underground cave with the right side of his body half crushed. Right encountering Zetsu who meets this young boy with special eye powers and saves him. I belive Zetsu is some sort of creation by madara “The way i see it is that , when madara was dying he activated the rinnengan, and let zetsu take the rinnengan from him, along with the harashima cells, and also some of madara's own DNA.He then let zetsu implant all of these things into a piece of zetsu body like a big enough chunk to make a body , hence developing a second madara. That had all his memories(or possibly he could of extracted his entire brain?) and shit.”

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And later infused this body with obito who he found because he needed the body of an uchiha and this was he’s perfect chance because the uchiha’s were all still alive and he didn’t want to engage into combat.
Now what if zetsu he then implanted the eyes into an uzumaki child (nagato). In order to study it abilities or re-awaken it."

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

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training .. if you go back and watch at itachi he had MS before he killed his entire village ...

"Here's my theory obito's near death experience enabled him to unlock his abilty to become intangible and pass through solid objects and bearly makes it out alive from the underground cave"

That was quoted from my theory, remember madara stated that he unlocked his rinnegan right before his death

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

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man that is one long thread but i assure you i red all of it and i think i agree obito is a very possible candidate to be tobi lol we just have to wait

xd im glad someone also agree's with me and see's that tobi "could" be obito and that it is not impossible

 

[cozolinofly]

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do not compare Madara who went through everything and even had EMS( was highly possible for him to get rinnegan) with someone with a 2 tomoe sharingan who you say also had the ability to go through objects :flaw: pathetic i would say ... :sy:

 

[Ryuu..]

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+rep for effort.

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

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good work but how did tobi grow up so fast as to be taller than itachi sorry i only read some parts of it

No idea but after 3 years naruto grew up so fast he was taller then sasukra

 

[Beastbomb]

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One problem I have with a part of your theory is the S/T jutsu each eye contains a different tech so if Kakashi has a warping ability to send things to another dimension then I fail to see how Obito's other eye can have a similar tech. The other thing I noticed is Kakashi and Obito were around the same age but when you see part of his face in his fght with Konan he looks about 20-30 years older than Kakashi you can clearly see the wrinkles around Tobi's eye. Personally myself I don't even think Tobi is an Uchiha since he hasn't been shown with the ability to turn off his Sharingan like an Uchiha can.

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

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do not compare Madara who went through everything and even had EMS( was highly possible for him to get rinnegan) with someone with a 2 tomoe sharingan who you say also had the ability to go through objects :flaw: pathetic i would say ... :sy:

You asked how could someone with a 2 tomoe unlock his ability to pass through solid objects so maybe it was his near death experience.

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

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+rep for effort.

Thanks xd

 

[Infinite Mizu]

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Madara know's who tobi is and Obito wasnt even alive at the time Madara was

but +rep because its a good theory

 

[Elio]

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I can't wait until Kishi reveals who he is. >.< Nice thread and facts.

 

[Nightjoker]

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My theory again..
"Here's my theory obito's near death experience enabled him to unlock his abilty to become intangible and pass through solid objects and bearly makes it out alive from the underground cave with the right side of his body half crushed. Right encountering Zetsu who meets this young boy with special eye powers and saves him. I belive Zetsu is some sort of creation by madara “The way i see it is that , when madara was dying he activated the rinnengan, and let zetsu take the rinnengan from him, along with the harashima cells, and also some of madara's own DNA.He then let zetsu implant all of these things into a piece of zetsu body like a big enough chunk to make a body , hence developing a second madara. That had all his memories(or possibly he could of extracted his entire brain?) and shit.”

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And later infused this body with obito who he found because he needed the body of an uchiha and this was he’s perfect chance because the uchiha’s were all still alive and he didn’t want to engage into combat.
Now what if zetsu he then implanted the eyes into an uzumaki child (nagato). In order to study it abilities or re-awaken it."

There are really a lot of problems with this teory. Like if it was Obito how does he know izinagi, or why doesn't he hava MS. If the Zetso - Madara teory was right, why did't he give the rinnegan to Obito. + tobi is an old pale dude, and if Obito was alive he would be Kakasi's age. And don't look at the name simularities, don't forget that the third is tobirama.

But it was nicely written, with a lot of effort, unlike most guys who just say "title says it", so +reps from me.

 

[narutownsyouall]

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Yep this is another Tobi is Obito thread but it may just be the best one you have ever read and might even make you reconsider your previous thoughts..

Here's my theory obito's near death experience enabled him to unlock his abilty to become intangible and pass through solid objects and bearly makes it out alive from the underground cave with the right side of his body half crushed. Right after this he encountered Zetsu who meets this young boy with special eye powers and saves him. I belive Zetsu is some sort of creation by madara “The way i see it is that , when madara was dying he activated the rinnengan, and let zetsu take the rinnengan from him, along with the harashima cells, and also some of madara's own DNA.He then let zetsu implant all of these things into a piece of zetsu body like a big enough chunk to make a body , hence developing a second madara. That had all his memories(or possibly he could of extracted his entire brain?) and shit.”

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And later infused this body with obito who he found because he needed the body of an uchiha and this was he’s perfect chance because the uchiha’s were all still alive and he didn’t want to engage into combat.
Now what if zetsu he then implanted the eyes into an uzumaki child (nagato). In order to study it abilities or re-awaken it.
Now before you question my theory or flame me read the whole thread !!!!!!


First of all let's start with the basics, tobi is is basically obito with a missing O this is probably one of the first links people spotted but is very true. Even if you say tobi backwards out loud it is actually bi to and if you spell tobi together multiple times without spaces you get this tobitobitobitobi small irrelevant but ture links but as I said this is just the basics. Now this same small link was the same with naruto and nagato and look at the big link with them, both uzumaki, Both jiraya's students..

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the list of links goes on

In the naruto series Kishi puts a lot of links between characters, names and much more which are all connected... don't want to go into all the links with names this thread will be to long..

Second link hair well as we all know obito's hair and tobi's current hair are very similar

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but in the past tobi has been seen with longer hair, but obito could of left his hair to grow for whatever reason and then cut it back to how it was originally, tobi is the character who changes his appearance the most in naruto with frequent mask changes

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you saying tobi is not obito because he once had long hair is just like saying the mask man who talked to kisamae is not tobi because he has a different mask

Tobi's sharingan powers is similar to kakashi's it was stated that each sharingan user has unique power, kakashi can warp objects that he focuses his eyes on into different dimensions

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Tobi can warp anything he touches into different dimensions
aswell as himself to different dimensions and other locations.

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Kakashi sharingan is obito's eye and not he’s eye so it’s obvious that he would not be able to use it to its full ability. It is also obvious that obito would have this sort space/time powers if he survived, which tobi clearly does

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People also say well it’s not obito because tobi has 2 sharingah which was revealed with his fight against konan well..

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Tobi has also been shown he has great skill in transplanting eyes as he gave sasuke itachi's eyes and also when he implants the reningan in he’s left eye. So yh that kills that argument doesn't it..

Another argument is tobi is too strong to be obito he couldn't of got that strong in that time space to fight the 4th and so on, well if obito did survive we don't know what happened to him in those 3-5 (not sure) years. Well I look at naruto here

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And now look at him here

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Hope you get my point, look how strong naruto has become in a 3-4 year period, I mean itachi killed his whole clan when he was 13 I think so how can you say tobi is too strong to be obito.
Also what people do not see is that obito is not strong at all I mean all he does is obsorb people and teleport I mean if obito did survive and unlock his powers would he need to improve much on his ninjutsu and taijutsu, I think not ! those powers a fearful enough

Yes he went up against the 4th... And lost !

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Anyone can go up against anyone the battle between the 4th and tobi was mainly a battle of brains not bronze, tobi isn't really that strong it’s just his ocular powers

People say Obito has no reason to be evil look well.. look at sasuke here

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and look at sasuke here

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Obviously we have been following the story of sasuke as well as naruto so we know all the events that have happened in the last 3-4 years but like I said we don't know what happen to obito if he did survive.. good guys can turn bad as seen with many characters.. * cough cough* nagato

Now obito's body was crushed.. Tobi's body is filled with a white substance most likely zetsu,

which makes perfect sense for this to be obito look at tobi here

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he's right side is white,

we know that zetsu and tobi are very close

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Like my theory says he could have confronted obito near his death we don’t know!

Tobi is old we saw his face, yh we've seen the right said of his face never the left, his right side was crushed of course it would look squashed. There has been many times were we have seen tobi’s right side of his face never his left ??

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This one is the real key if kishi is willing to reveal this much of his face he might aswell reveal all of it ? welll if it is obito the the left side should be fine not squashed which is the only reason I can think of for his left face not to be shown


This is a complete random clue I saw from re watching some past naruto ep's (ay I was bored) anyway right before akatsuki was introduced and itachi and kismae were sitting down in a restaurant this was said.............

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Asuma said this to kakashi because he said he is collecting something for an offering or something like that. This was the first time obito was ever mentioned and I assure you this was righttt before itachi, kisame and akatsuki was introduced would be very ironic as tobi claims to be the influence behind akatsuki and obito is mentioned right before akatsuki’s introduction anyway just a clue I found

If you actually read all that wow, I added a lot of pictures in this thread so I could prove everything I said was true. I will probably reply to post on this thread by just copying and pasting because people don’t seem to read the post properly when the answer is right there.

There's no way I can go into why tobi isn't the elder son, izuna uchiha or kami uchiha. Have you seen how long this thread is but I will do brief summaries why I believe they are not tobi.

Sage of six path son:
’’Even the elder son's dad wasnt immortal so why would he? kakuzu said theres no true immortality meaning hidan ages. everything deteriorates. plus tobi posed as madara. why would the mighty son of the sage pose as a kid, who would madara be to him? and why is he madara's bitch, following madara's plan and planning to resurrect madara? why would he become so weak over the years? his fight with his bro couldnt have
done that much.

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Which I fully agree with

Izuni madara brother:

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He is blind and dead why do you people say this, if he was blind how did he get new eyes?? we saw him in his coffin ?? Even if he "didn't die" he would die from old age what is wrong with you people ?? Yet we didn’t see obito die and you say he is dead ??

Kami uchiha: I wouldn't mind if it was, I actually like the idea and is who I believe tobi is if it is not obito. Kami is around the right age to be tobi and also he just seemed to disappear with no explanation. But if it was him who would it shock, most people probably don't even know him the third is dead, danzo is dead and the second 2nd is dead.. If it was obito that involves the 4th and Kakashi who are connected to almost all the characters in the naruto universe in some way or form.

For those how thought the obito is tobi theory died I'm showing you it’s still alive and kicking !!

Please argue against any of the points I've made or maybe some that I haven't made, this is a discussion and I would like to hear your thoughts

I just don’t like the fact that people are saying “It can’t be Obito !!” when as I have shown in this thread it very well could be. :scorps:

Stop reaching for dumbass theories he is not obito obitio was just a character that was made to explain why kakashi got the sharingan

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

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One problem I have with a part of your theory is the S/T jutsu each eye contains a different tech so if Kakashi has a warping ability to send things to another dimension then I fail to see how Obito's other eye can have a similar tech. The other thing I noticed is Kakashi and Obito were around the same age but when you see part of his face in his fght with Konan he looks about 20-30 years older than Kakashi you can clearly see the wrinkles around Tobi's eye. Personally myself I don't even think Tobi is an Uchiha since he hasn't been shown with the ability to turn off his Sharingan like an Uchiha can.

Ahh but they are different kakashi has to look at an object, tobi has to touch an object..

Flaw in your post " looks about 20-30 years older than Kakashi" we see his right side the side he was crushed by a boulder the right side of his face could have been squash.

Yh your last point could be true, its just a theory it very well could not be obito

 

[Oronagato]

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pretty beast theory..... even though I still disagree, +rep for major effort and satisfactory facts.