Sasuke is overrated

[Sasuke Fan Hater]

Good
You are in war with fanboys gonna kill you

we have killed em already..:izuna:

 

[Turson]

we have killed em already..:izuna:

Well, EMS Sasuke isnt inferior to Itachi, thats for sure.

 

[Hafiz Dembos]

Sasuke is not as strong as he is said to be, just happens to be quite a lucky guy.

 

[Sasuke Fan Hater]

Well, EMS Sasuke isnt inferior to Itachi, thats for sure.

you feeling okay.....?

 

[Monkeysageof6paths]

Sasuke is no where near top 10 ninja list.There are plenty of people who can beat the living crap outta him.Let me break it down into ya.

Naruto > Sasuke

Naruto can beat Sasuke at anytime.He got kyubi chakra mode,tailed beast mod & sage mode.Sasuke's a dead man even with his enhanced susanoo.Come on even though he get an new powerful jutsu,hes' limited on chakra.As we know the more powerful the jutsu is the more chakra you need to perform it.On the other hand Naruto is a living chakra storage.He got more chakra/stamina than Sasuke & now he got kyubi's chakra (& other tailed beast chakra as well) as well,with devastating jutsus and speed.He got sage mode from which he brought down pain and kyubi.MS Sasuke is dead if it wasn't for taka.I mean he got his motha-fuking chest ripped off by Killer-Bee.

Kabuto > Sasuke

The current Kabuto can beat Sasuke.With edo-Madara and with the remaining edo-shinobi.It's too much for him.

Itachi > Sasuke

I mean come on Itachi's a frreaking genius.Sasuke might got the EMS but Itachi can defeat him.Sasuke was trolled and manipulated by Itachi his whole life.Itachi used his MS for longer than Sasuke.I mean Sasuke lost his eyes after some months and few battles.While Itachi used it for year and fought many battles (tailed beasts etc.).It's a raw talent to use his sharingan effectively.I also think Itachi's Tsukiyomi is better than Sasuke's.

Tobi > Sasuke

With the tailed beasts and rinnegan.Too much for Sasuke.

Nagato > Sasuke

Nagato was a master of rinnegan.He got hold of it when he was ten.He's more experienced than Sasuke.He was addressed as 3rd SO6P by Tobi.His only weakness is that he can't walk.But rinnegan in a master's hand is always > EMS Sasuke. :scorps:

Minato > Sasuke

He will win because of teleportation jutsu and his space-time techs.Minato pushed Tobi to his limits and can bring down armies in seconds.And i'm not a minato fan-boy.It's just the reality.

There are more people who are great than Sasuke.He has to go a long way if he ever wanna come near that top 10 list.

Best thread i've seen since i'm on this Base LMAO

 

[Turson]

you feeling okay.....?

Of course I am.
EMS > MS, as simple as that. Current Sasuke is stronger than Itachi.

 

[Sasuke Fan Hater]

Of course I am.
EMS > MS, as simple as that. Current Sasuke is stronger than Itachi.

Less logic in this post is almost unreal. U_U
please go back into your cave.

 

[Turson]

Less logic in this post is almost unreal. U_U
please go back into your cave.

Say what you like, but EMS is definietly more powerful than MS. It gives its user one completely new technique (considering it comes from EMS it should be at least on Susanoo level), and from seeing how Sasukes Susanoo changed I can say that it also upgrades previous kaleidoscope techniques. Itachi might be smarter, but it isnt enough to compansate the difference in sheer power, since Sasuke is great strategist as well.

 

[Blaze Release]

Although its clear you are a hater, i do somewhat agree with what youve said, although he would give any one of them a fight, he woul deffo lose to tobi, kabuto (madara), bm naruto, nagato.

Itachi and minato if he was to win would win with high difficulty.

 

[Sasunarufan13]

It's funny how all the Sasuke bashers start a thread and post everything they think he can't do and underrate his abilities, but when someone tries to start a decent discussion with well found arguments, their posts always get shot down and are replied wth "You don't know anything, gtfo. You're just a Sasuke fanboy" *rolls eyes*
If you don't want to have a decent discussion about a character, then stop making threads like this in the discussion thread :sy:
Anyway, while I won't say that Sasuke can defeat everyone (he isn't that powerful) don't underestimate him either. And like stated before, Sasuke and Naruto are almost equals - it wouldn't make much sense for Kishimoto-sensei to power up Naruto every time, but leave Sasuke at the same level.
Until they have had their fight, we don't know who is the stronger one of the two. Thus it can go either way

 

[Blitz Ace]

For starters you don't have to kill someone to defeat them forcing them to retreat is the same thing after Tobi recieved that rasengan and lost the Kurama him and his plan that night were defeated. He had no choice left but to retreat cause his plan failed also Kurama was already in Konoha Tobi just pulled it out of Kushina and summond it in the village, and even though Minato died he was still successful in sealing Kurama's chakra so either way you look at it Tobi and his plan failed.

Have you ever heard of "you won the battle, but not the war"? Its true that minato spoiled tobi's plans to destroy the entire village, but guess what? He lived to fight another day. That cant be said about minato. Its because of tobi that he died that night. Its because he was successful in pulling out kurama from kushina, like you said, that lead to minatos death.

 

[Hafiz Dembos]

Of course he is!

 

[Cyanide Addiction]

Have you ever heard of "you won the battle, but not the war"? Its true that minato spoiled tobi's plans to destroy the entire village, but guess what? He lived to fight another day. That cant be said about minato. Its because of tobi that he died that night. Its because he was successful in pulling out kurama from kushina, like you said, that lead to minatos death.

That particular war is not over yet, so it can't be said that he won. In fact, he should've killed Naruto when he had the chance.. When Naruto was a baby. Minato spoiled his plans once.. Naruto has done so on more occasions now than I'd like to try counting. Minato had a plan the day he sacrificed himself, and that plan thus far... Is working.

On a side-note for the Actual Topic of this thread...
It's the same as with Itachi; It depends on the following whether he's overrated, or underrated;

• Who you're talking too.
• His popularity (or infamy) level at the time.
• His actions in the manga.
• His amount of screen time lately.

I feel like I'm forgetting one, but that will suffice for now.

 

[Blitz Ace]

That particular war is not over yet, so it can't be said that he won. In fact, he should've killed Naruto when he had the chance.. When Naruto was a baby. Minato spoiled his plans once.. Naruto has done so on more occasions now than I'd like to try counting. Minato had a plan the day he sacrificed himself, and that plan thus far... Is working.

On a side-note for the Actual Topic of this thread...
It's the same as with Itachi; It depends on the following whether he's overrated, or underrated;

• Who you're talking too.
• His popularity (or infamy) level at the time.
• His actions in the manga.
• His amount of screen time lately.

I feel like I'm forgetting one, but that will suffice for now.

Sorry im not talking about the actual war lol. When i said " you won the battle but not the war", what i meant was that minato beat tobi in their little battle of speed, but it is because of tobi that minato died that night. My bad if i made it seem i was talking about the actual war xd

 

[Cyanide Addiction]

Sorry im not talking about the actual war lol. When i said " you won the battle but not the war", what i meant was that minato beat tobi in their little battle of speed, but it is because of tobi that minato died that night. My bad if i made it seem i was talking about the actual war xd

I have to disagree. Only Minato's wife Kushina was absolutely going to die that night. Minato chose it. There may very well have been other ways to go about that. As a matter of fact, I've noticed that Minato is greatly criticized for his decisions that night. (Not in the Manga, but in rl on NaruBase.)

 

[Blitz Ace]

I have to disagree. Only Minato's wife Kushina was absolutely going to die that night. Minato chose it. There may very well have been other ways to go about that. As a matter of fact, I've noticed that Minato is greatly criticized for his decisions that night. (Not in the Manga, but in rl on NaruBase.)

True but it was tobi who began the chain of events that lead to minato choosing to die. I understand your argument and to be honest, it could go either way. As you said, there may have been other ways to go about it. I honestly believe that if minato joined the 3rd hokage and his crew, rather than teleporting somewhere else, perhaps kushina and minato could have survived.

 

[Cyanide Addiction]

True but it was tobi who began the chain of events that lead to minato choosing to die. I understand your argument and to be honest, it could go either way. As you said, there may have been other ways to go about it. I honestly believe that if minato joined the 3rd hokage and his crew, rather than teleporting somewhere else, perhaps kushina and minato could have survived.

The 3rd Hokage could've easily taken his place in sealing Half of the Nine Tails' chakra away. And that's one thing I find very depressing.
It's obvious that Minato did not WANT to live anymore. As great as he was, he should've wanted to live for his Son.
Also, Tobi can't take credit for something he couldn't do on his own. And he certainly can't take credit for something someone else chose to do. Especially when that something else has blocked Tobi so many times along the way it's not even funny anymore. (Okay... Maybe it is still pretty funny.)
It also just occurred to me that Naruto may not have turned out this way, had things gone differently. If he hadn't lost his parents, and become a Host for a Tailed Beast, then he wouldn't have learned half the life, and moral lessons that he has.

 

[Blitz Ace]

The 3rd Hokage could've easily taken his place in sealing Half of the Nine Tails' chakra away. And that's one thing I find very depressing.
It's obvious that Minato did not WANT to live anymore. As great as he was, he should've wanted to live for his Son.
Also, Tobi can't take credit for something he couldn't do on his own. And he certainly can't take credit for something someone else chose to do. Especially when that something else has blocked Tobi so many times along the way it's not even funny anymore. (Okay... Maybe it is still pretty funny.)
It also just occurred to me that Naruto may not have turned out this way, had things gone differently. If he hadn't lost his parents, and become a Host for a Tailed Beast, then he wouldn't have learned half the life, and moral lessons that he has.

Agreed on the part about naruto and the 3rd hokage. But, i still have to give some credit to tobi for breaking into konoha and releasing the kurama, which ultimately did lead to minatos death even when there were other options. And also, i believe minato did want to live. But he also wanted kushina to see naruto grown up. The choice of his wife seeing her own son outweighed his life in that moment. Anyways, i think its best we agree to disagree. Dont think we are going to convince eachother on the whole tobi vs minato outcome xd. Good debate though.....even if it was completely off the topic

 

[Cyanide Addiction]

On a side-note for the Actual Topic of this thread...
It's the same as with Itachi; It depends on the following whether he's overrated, or underrated;

• Who you're talking too.
• His popularity (or infamy) level at the time.
• His actions in the manga.
• His amount of screen time lately.

I feel like I'm forgetting one, but that will suffice for now.

Good debate though.....even if it was completely off the topic

Hey I made an attempt at the topic, and you didn't even mention it.

 

[Gooner4life]

A bit unfair but you have a great point. Sasuke hasn't really beat anyone in part two

• Sasuke VS Oro - Oro was on his death bed and could barely move
• Sasuke vs Deidara - Deidara killed himself
• Sasuke vs Killer Bee - Bee tricked him
• Sasuke vs Itachi - Itachi let him win and wanted Sasuke to kill him
• Sasuke vs 5 kages - Needed Tobi to come to his rescue
• Sasuke vs Danzo - Danzo also killed himself

Just goes to show, he isn't really that great. This is out to all those Sasuke Fanboys