Hashirama vs Nagato

[arv993]

He is deffo behind edo madara and tobi even though he would give them a fight.
As for current naruto and hashirama, he is superior to them and if there was a fight, he would take it with high difficulty, either one.

From what ive gathered so far in this thread, people either say bringer of darkness or that sleeping/poison wood release technique. Nagato ability to fly would make him evade bringer of darkness which is short/mid range and would also gain him immunity to hashirama's wood release because even if the surroundings is being controlled he is in the air. Regardless the ultimate shinra tensei should take care of mokouton.

Lets not forget that nagato was said to have mastered all the elements therefore he can counter any earth and water technique hashirama has to offer. Hashirama might have a high chakra reserve but i very much doubt his rival nagato's. Then there is nagato 8 different summonings, excluding gedo mazo, that hashirama has to deal with

He will lose to hashirama cos if he is in the bringer of drakness range even a while what happened with itachi would happen and he only needs on hit with his weapons or even his mokuton. and since nagato cant see the attack coming i think he would likely lose and getting out of the range b4 doing so is hard. I think it would be the same as what happened after itachi just blineded his visons. nagato's biggest weakness is exploited by just one jutsu of hashi. and the summons are also useless unless they see hashirama as well he just needs hashi just needs one attack and he is done. And as we have seen summons cant see either similar to enma and 3rd hokage. I think its nagato's loss. Its debatable but i think hashi can pull it off


Nagato has little to no chance against naruto. No way people keep thinking naruto is weak becos he lost to nagato back in his last encounter but they dont know how wrong they are.

Naruto summons with pa and ma obliterate nagato's summons.

Naruto has 12 high level clones who can also make more clones all much faster than nagato. And now he has kyubi to support with chakra and he isnt taking naruto's away so no problem there.

CT- 3-4 frs should stop it or tbb
Shinra tensei- is resisted and even a big one can be survived seeing even tsundae helped a whole village survive and the fact that naruto can just deflect 5 tbbs all with high power

bansho tenin- naruto has stopped that with his chakra hands

preta path-there are so many clones and nagato cant keep all naruto has to do is hit nagato with an sm clone or clones. imagine 6-7 high level clones(KM) as distractions and also bunch of sm clones trying to land a hit with frog katas to end nagato.

human path- too many clones, nagato would not even be able to tell which is the actual naruto and naruto is way too fast for him for nagato to actually make contact

Naruto outclasses nagato completely nagato has little to no chance against naruto's arsenal- which is him in Bm mode, multiple high level km clones, bunch of sm clones, and his summons. Nagato just wont beat him at his current power naruto is scarily strong. And all i have mentioned has been done by naruto in the war so him+kyubi have the chakra to do all of that or at least most of it which would suffice. nagato simply can't win against naruto at his current state. hashirama sure nagato has good shot but naruto the chances are very slim

 

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Nagato would shinra tensei all that plant shit away.

 

[Ryuu..]

He will lose to hashirama cos if he is in the bringer of drakness range even a while what happened with itachi would happen and he only needs on hit with his weapons or even his mokuton. and since nagato cant see the attack coming i think he would likely lose and getting out of the range b4 doing so is hard. I think it would be the same as what happened after itachi just blineded his visons. nagato's biggest weakness is exploited by just one jutsu of hashi. and the summons are also useless unless they see hashirama as well he just needs hashi just needs one attack and he is done. And as we have seen summons cant see either similar to enma and 3rd hokage. I think its nagato's loss. Its debatable but i think hashi can pull it off


Nagato has little to no chance against naruto. No way people keep thinking naruto is weak becos he lost to nagato back in his last encounter but they dont know how wrong they are.

Naruto summons with pa and ma obliterate nagato's summons.

Naruto has 12 high level clones who can also make more clones all much faster than nagato. And now he has kyubi to support with chakra and he isnt taking naruto's away so no problem there.

CT- 3-4 frs should stop it or tbb
Shinra tensei- is resisted and even a big one can be survived seeing even tsundae helped a whole village survive and the fact that naruto can just deflect 5 tbbs all with high power

bansho tenin- naruto has stopped that with his chakra hands

preta path-there are so many clones and nagato cant keep all naruto has to do is hit nagato with an sm clone or clones. imagine 6-7 high level clones(KM) as distractions and also bunch of sm clones trying to land a hit with frog katas to end nagato.

human path- too many clones, nagato would not even be able to tell which is the actual naruto and naruto is way too fast for him for nagato to actually make contact

Naruto outclasses nagato completely nagato has little to no chance against naruto's arsenal- which is him in Bm mode, multiple high level km clones, bunch of sm clones, and his summons. Nagato just wont beat him at his current power naruto is scarily strong. And all i have mentioned has been done by naruto in the war so him+kyubi have the chakra to do all of that or at least most of it which would suffice. nagato simply can't win against naruto at his current state. hashirama sure nagato has good shot but naruto the chances are very slim

Naruto would not defeat this:

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[arv993]

Naruto would not defeat this:

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and nagato would not be able to defeat all of this at once

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+ his sm clones in the war
+this

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do i need to say more. please dude when it comes to naruto vs nagato you dont have a legitimate argument and just show pic to say he wins. give concrete reasons to support your points. this pic shows only a minor portion of naruto's power all the other clones were elsewhere

 

[Ryuu..]

and nagato would not be able to defeat all of this at once

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+ his sm clones in the war
+this

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do i need to say more. please dude when it comes to naruto vs nagato you dont have a legitimate argument and just show pic to say he wins. give concrete reasons to support your points. this pic shows only a minor portion of naruto's power all the other clones were elsewhere

Nagato would kill all the clones with one Shinra Tensei. Clones disappear when they're hit once so that's out of the equation. PLUS, Naruto would not waste all his chakra making that many clones. His SM clones are even weaker so they're not a problem.

BM Naruto mainly uses TBB which is Ninjutsu which is absorbed by Preta path.

 

[arv993]

Nagato would kill all the clones with one Shinra Tensei. Clones disappear when they're hit once so that's out of the equation. PLUS, Naruto would not waste all his chakra making that many clones. His SM clones are even weaker so they're not a problem.

BM Naruto mainly uses TBB which is Ninjutsu which is absorbed by Preta path.

are u kidding me these are kkm clones not your average clones that die after one hit.

and Ninetails can resist Shinra tensei so that is out of the equation. and clones are able to stay on top of the ninetails as well so no clones would die as long as they are in kyubi's chakra form

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and shinra tensei at least the small ones can't get all the naruto km clones cos they are extremely fast.


yea nagato can take on 11 km clones that naruto has all of whom are faster than nagato himself. all he needs is one or two hits with frog katas with his sm clones and nagato is done. nagato simply is outclassed

And as you see in the link sm clones or Km clones can be on kyubi giving them protection from shinra tensei while giving them still extreme speed

 

[Ryuu..]

are u kidding me these are kkm clones not your average clones that die after one hit.

and Ninetails can resist Shinra tensei so that is out of the equation. and clones are able to stay on top of the ninetails as well so no clones would die as long as they are in kyubi's chakra form

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and shinra tensei at least the small ones can't get all the naruto km clones cos they are extremely fast.

They can't hurt Nagato - they 90% ninjutsu.

 

[arv993]

They can't hurt Nagato - they 90% ninjutsu.

sm naruto can tho and he needs frog katas that is it. and they can be on the kyubi like how this one was

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and just attack with frog katas. and frog katas work on preta path the last time i checked. unless u have proof otherwise

Km clones are distractions and even they can hurt naruto if he just uses kunais. and if nagato is caught off guard like he did with itachi he can be hit by ninjutsu similar to here

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except in this scenario naruto has more people to distract nagato.

 

[Ryuu..]

sm naruto can tho and he needs frog katas that is it. and they can be on the kyubi like how this one was

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and just attack with frog katas. and frog katas work on preta path the last time i checked. unless u have proof otherwise

If they get near Shinra Tensei pushes them back. Anyway, why don't you focus on how the f*ck Naruto is going to defend against Nagato's entire arsenal

 

[arv993]

If they get near Shinra Tensei pushes them back. Anyway, why don't you focus on how the f*ck Naruto is going to defend against Nagato's entire arsenal

omg you know what happens to nagato if he uses shinra tensei, yea a few would get hurt but not all. And dont you remember this lol

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naruto can resisted and even repeled pain. so yea shinra tensei is not a problem

i think i mentioned to you b4 what he does to shinra tensei lol but i think you just refused to look at it

like i said naruto has all the numbers and the right powers to beat all of nagato's techs. But fans like you refuse to see simple facts it boggles me.

why dont you tell me what nagato can do against multiple clones who are all faster than him, can beat most of his techs and one hit and nagato is done and yet you say naruto loses. Wow nagato fans never cease to amaze me

 

[Ryuu..]

omg you know what happens to nagato if he uses shinra tensei, yea a few would get hurt but not all. And dont you remember this lol

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naruto can resisted and even repeled pain. so yea shinra tensei is not a problem

i think i mentioned to you b4 what he does to shinra tensei lol but i think you just refused to look at it

like i said naruto has all the numbers and the right powers to beat all of nagato's techs. But fans like you refuse to see simple facts it boggles me.

why dont you tell me what nagato can do against multiple clones who are all faster than him, can beat most of his techs and one hit and nagato is done and yet you say naruto loses. Wow nagato fans never cease to amaze me

That was deva path, not as strong as healthy Nagato where all paths are together and all chakra is focused on one point.......

Why have you avoided answering how Naruto is supposedly going to defend against Nagato?

 

[arv993]

That was deva path, not as strong as healthy Nagato where all paths are together and all chakra is focused on one point.......

Why have you avoided answering how Naruto is supposedly going to defend against Nagato?

and that was naruto in 6 tails who was on ramapage not even a near perfect biju(9tails) as he is now which deflected 5 tailed beasts bombs with minimal difficulty.

what didnt i tell you naruto 9 tails mode can defend against his shinra tensei.

 

[Ryuu..]

and that was naruto in 6 tails who was on ramapage not even a near perfect biju(9tails) as he is now which deflected 5 tailed beasts bombs with minimal difficulty.

what didnt i tell you naruto 9 tails mode can defend against his shinra tensei.

- All 5 nature transformations
- All 6 paths in one body
- Gedo Mazo
- Shinra Tensei
- Chibaku Tensei (Remember Mokuton would just feed it)
- Preta path (Nagato can't be touched by Mokuton as it's ninjutsu)
- Human path which takes souls
- Gedo Mazo soul removal

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- Asura Path (weapons and technology)
- Animal path (summons)
- 5 seal barrier:

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Please explain how he could counter every single one or when they are used in combos (Hint: he can't).

 

[arv993]

- All 5 nature transformations
- All 6 paths in one body
- Gedo Mazo
- Shinra Tensei
- Chibaku Tensei (Remember Mokuton would just feed it)
- Preta path (Nagato can't be touched by Mokuton as it's ninjutsu)
- Human path which takes souls
- Gedo Mazo soul removal

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- Asura Path (weapons and technology)
- Animal path (summons)
- 5 seal barrier:

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Please explain how he could counter every single one or when they are used in combos (Hint: he can't).

Animal path<ma+pa and all the toads
CT gets beaten by 3 frs or tbb
asura path, human path or preta path pretty much wont even touch naruto he is the fastest ninja in the world lol

shinra tensei is beaten by kyubi as said b4

and nagato is outnumbered by clones, outclassed in speed. Gedo mazo would be useless if naruto kills him and he would if nagato is vulnerable and the tech is slow like this

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naruto nor his clones are gonna wait for him the rod to slowly connect to him and then he is also stationary then and one hit and he would be dead.

Combos dont matter when naruto has 11 high level km clones, his summons and his sm clones to help. Nagato is simply outclassed and fanboys like you just can see it

This happened to nagato when someone distracted him

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and when there many more distractions you are saying he will still win and mind you he wont be in edo tensei to get his hands back. And he got hit by a ninjutsu tech bbut naruto still has frog katas but regardless naruto would win.

 

[Ryuu..]

Animal path<ma+pa and all the toads
CT gets beaten by 3 frs or tbb
asura path, human path or preta path pretty much wont even touch naruto he is the fastest ninja in the world lol

shinra tensei is beaten by kyubi as said b4

and nagato is outnumbered by clones, outclassed in speed. Gedo mazo would be useless if naruto kills him and he would if nagato is vulnerable and the tech is slow like this

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naruto nor his clones are gonna wait for him the rod to slowly connect to him and then he is also stationary then and one hit and he would be dead.

LOL you don't get it do you xd

 

[arv993]

LOL you don't get it do you xd

No it is simply nagato fanboys like you who dont see the light. I can understand hashi which is debatablee and can go both ways but against naruto's current powers nagato is not winning.

 

[Ryuu..]

No it is simply nagato fanboys like you who dont see the light. I can understand hashi which is debatablee and can go both ways but against naruto's current powers nagato is not winning.

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[arv993]

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yes best method when u cant use arguments or cant accept things lets use memes.

 

[Ryuu..]

yes best method when u cant use arguments or cant accept things lets use memes.

Aha, your talking nonsense though xd To actually believe Naruto > Nagato.....................SMH.

 

[arv993]

Aha, your talking nonsense though xd To actually believe Naruto > Nagato.....................SMH.

yea even though many others agree after using just common sense and seeing the newest chapters. i guess some ppl just love their fave characters too much to admit things. but thats fine i've seen worse on the base lol