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I have been doing some research and looking back into the whole tobi identity thing. I am starting to think that Tobi is actually the Sages oldest son. The original son who inherited the Sages eyes and was upset that his father passed on his will to the younger son. If your familiar with Christianity this is the classic story of Cain and Able. Ill explain a few reasons why I think this is the oldest son.

The Sage's eyes were always depicted as the rinnegan. We know that the rinnegan is the final stage of the Sharigan. If the Sage passed on his eyes to the oldest son, its safe to say that the oldest started out with the rinnegan and didnt need to develop it, it was a direct inheritance with full capabilities.

In manga 510/5 - Tobi tells Konan that he gave the rinnegan to Nagato when he was a child this could only be true if the tobi already possessed the rinnegan. (which is why I dont think it was obito)

We know that tobi effectively used Inzanagi with Konan and he clearly states that it can only be used by someone possessing both the powers of the Uchia and Senji manga 510/10. Again if he is the direct oldest brother descendant of the sage of six paths the he would have some blood or DNA of both clans. The clans didn’t emerge until later descendants of the two brothers. additionally Tobi has extensive knowledge of how Inzanagi works, as well as how the Sage himself used it to create life. Most other Shinobi in the current world thought that 1. the rinnegan was a mutation and 2. the sage was just a legend. How would Tobi possess such intricate details of the sage unless he was there.

The son which obtained the Sages eyes believed that power was the true road to peace. We know that combining the tailed beast back together is the ultimate level of "power" and using an "eye" technique to control mankind would be symbolic of the first son who inherited the sages eyes.

Lastly in the most recent manga Naruto has gained some frightening new abilities and gotten stronger and removed all the other tailed beast from the equation, and yet Tobi remains calm and confident and says this changes nothing. This is an obvious testament of his strength. There is no way that this could be Obito or even Izuna. We havent seen Tobi's true strength displayed yet, but he is always calm and very efficent. Another reason Tobi cant be Obito is because when he attacked Kushina he was able to control the 9 tails and fight the 4th. Obito would have been way too young for that and definitely not on par with his instructor the "yellow flash".

Simply based on the knowledge that tobi has and the level of determination he has towards the moons eye plan, I believe it would have to be the Sage's eldest son. Additionally I believe the Sage saw this before his death and portion of himself into the Kyubi, which would explain why when the first seal Naruto used when taking the Kyubi's chakra he said “ this is the sage of six paths” manga 499/14. Also in the last chapter all the tailed beast believe that the words of the Sage would come true , “when they would all be joined together” So if Naruto is going to become as strong or even stronger than the Sage of the Six paths then there has to be an equal counter part. Sasuke, madara and Kabuto possess strength but I believe Tobi’s true power has yet to be seen, and he has proven that he has the ability to use Inzanagi and he has joined “3 of the six paths” this to me is the only logical person able to acquired this much power and have this much intelligence of the Sage and the history of the Shinobi world as a whole.
So in short I believe Tobi is the eldest son of the Sage
This is actually pretty good what you came up with. What the reason why you believe Tobi has been able to live this long? My only theory on that from everything you have said is that he used Izanagi to breathe life into Zetsu, which with Zetsu abilities, always able to provide Tobi with a Zetsu type body, whenever Tobi has received any form of damaged, he is able to re-generate his body back to perfect condition and has we have seen Tobi and the 4th in action, we saw his arm damaged whcih seemed all gooey like Zetsu.
 

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This chapter is proof that the So6P is NOT tobi. There is a lot going on in this chapter that you kind of have to read into.

1. Tobi is an ******* who thinks that the Biju are objects to be controlled and used for war.... in the name of peace.

2. The So6P was a nice guy who FREED all the Biju and set them on their paths out in the world, giving them advice and names.

3. It's abundantly clear that the So6P is NOT Tobi.

4. My guess is that the So6P resembles those from the Uzumaki clan.

5. This chapter shows that the Biju all believe in Naruto and have a reason to care for him and side with him, not because they are forced to by being controlled/sealed, but because he obviously is willing to set them free, just like the So6P said.

6. I don't think they are going to come together to form the 10 tails Biju, but instead they are going to be set free and left alone to walk their own paths in life, again, but this time, being allies and friends of Naruto.

7. Tobi still has complete control over them as long as the Mazou statue is intact, and it shows as much when he sucked them all back into the statue like he did the 4 tails.

8. However, I have no doubt that they gave Naruto some of their chakara, which will give him new abilities or help him defeat Tobi.

9. Lastly, Tobi is either Izuna or some character that has not been revealed yet. It's literally the only logical conclusion anyone can draw from what we have seen so far.
 

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i am willing to bet that next chap would have Naruto with his own six path. Six bijus & jins gave Naruto some of their powers cos he has proven to them that he is trust worthy and he has true power. Tobi even said so6p choose the younger brother to lead the world in peace.
My best part for me in this chap is towards the end when tobi said something like Naruto was about to run out gas and naruto said its different this time.
And another thing I thought of is yonbi was featured, to me was it made no sense since he was dead but now u have 5 more jins with renningan and sharingan- is Naruto going to have is own Edo tensei team or have they given him the sharingan/rinnegan power.
 
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What do u guys think about Naruto being able to take his oppenents inside the bijuus and fighting there, sort of a genjutsu. Maybe being able to dispel genjutsu by taking the opponent there. He used that sealing jutsu on kurama so he might have more jutsus there, like he also could turn all of his clones to SM immediately because his "real" body wasn't inside kurama.
Not saying this will happen, but it would be epic.
 

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This is a re-post:
Great Chapter!!!!!!!
I like the little ones!!
I can not wait for next week!!

Attention/Spoiler Alert:
Remember these predictions are more of a Spoiler so don't read if you don't want to be spoiled. If you don't want to be Spoiled don't read anything under these lines of dots.
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I just want to share this with you.

"I have a cousin in Japan and he gave me an info on Naruto. He said that his source is very reliable.
His English is alittle shady, so I will try my best to relay.
-According to him, Naruto is Rikudo Sage himself not his reincarnation, but with two souls.
-During the time Rikudo Sage decited to divide the Juubi chakra into nine tail beasts, he sealed his soul and powers inside the Kyubi itself. In doing so, he will come back in another time to finish his work.
-Naruto's Rikudo Sage form is the first step of awakening Rikudo's soul and powers.
-His second step of awakening is the one that he is or will be training on without knowing. This will provide him with not just Rikudo Sage's eyes, but also all his knowledge. It will combine two souls into one.
-Oh by the way, he also said something very interesting about Sasuke, Itachi and Zetzu; and also (Madara becoming a Jinjuriki as well).
He also said that Kishi is trying to make few changes in his original Naruto final look. Get ready to see Naruto with long hair and some crazy staff and big scroll and cape and more.
-Oh he also said something about Naruto confronting the Kyubi once more before this changes or soul combining thing.
-Oh I forgot about Jiraiya and Kabuto too.
I wish I could get more out of him especially about Jiraiya and Itachi. But he said he shouldn't be telling me all of this cause I am going post it."

A list of things that wil happen in the next chapters...
There is something nice for the Sasuke fanboys, and the Jiraiya fanboys!

1- Naruto's connection with the First Hokage will be soon reveal.

2- Madara vs. Naruto round 1 will happen soon and Madara will retreat. It will be more of a test of strength. They will both learn about each other’s powers.

3- Kabuto's true target is Naruto. He will explain why soon.

4- Madara's interest in Naruto is more than just the Kyubi. Guess what else he is after?

5- Jiraiya's re-appearance is around the corner and we will reveal a lot of juicy stuff:
"Jiraiya cant come back...he's dead!! and he cant be resurected becua ethey dont have any of his dna, his body sank to the bottom of the sea!"
Yes, according to Kabuto. And Kabuto is one of antagonist so he has the right to lie sometimes, making us believe that he had failed acquiring Jiraiya-sama's DNA.
Moreover, Jiraiya's blood were all over the place. White blood cell contains DNA imprints. Thus, Kabuto, an exceptional medic, may figure it out and revive Jiraiya-sama via Edo Tensei.

6- Shinobi HQ will soon be attack. Three guess who 666.

7- Naruto can somehow use all the five elements, some of Jiraiya, Minato, Kushina jutsu and it will be explain. This jutsu includes Uzumaki sealing jutsus as well.

8- Something about the long hair Madara will soon be shown. I don't understand that one.

9- 3rd Raikage, 2nd Mizukage and Gaara's father were all bloodline limit user.

10- One of sasuke's new powers is to slow down time in the real world. It will make him seem faster than his enemy. Unlike Tsukuyomi which happens in the mind, this one happens outside of the mind.

11- Another of Sasuke upgrade will be his amaterasu shield.

12- I almost forgot. Black half Zetzu was created with Madara's DNA. In other word, Zetzu is made up of both Hashirama's DNA (white Zetzu) and Madara's DNA (black Zetzu).

13- I forgot to say this very important hint about Madara's teleportation. According to the reliable source, Zetzu is the main key for his Time/Space Jutsu. Just like Minato, Madara needs something to guide him of his exit/entrance. In other word, the way Madara knows where to find and appears to someone is through Zetzu. This information will soon be revealed.

I think this is scary...somebody the same or other thoughts?
This is not mine, someone posted this in NWAnime.com.
 

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Yep....naruto owns everybody;) I honestly really don't see him becoming the hokage at the end...if he's the second coming of the SO6P, i dont think he'd be confined to the village. This really changes everything about the plot. He's not just OP, he is the Ultimate OP ninja....more excited then ever.
5/5
 

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I just had a really crazy feeling. After watching the anime today, and it occurred to me who Tobi might be. Yeah I know that the anime and the Manga aren't always the same but when it comes to this... they are.
As Naruto's mother was on her way to deliver the baby Naruto. She came upon, Sauske's mom. They talked for a bit about Naruto and Sauske being friends and in the same class.
At first I thought, that was the whole point of showing them meet and that they were friends. Who knows what else Kushina told Sauske's mom

Now im beginning to think....This is how Tobi found out about the delivery. Maybe not even intentionally but casually mentioning the situation.

Now lets think back a little about the Uchia's.. It was said that they were like the police of the ninja world and Sauske's dad was at the top.
Also he sired 2 of the most powerful Uchia's in history. I find it hard to believe that he would have died so easily.
He could have easily faked his death. More and more I think about it, and I find it really hard to swallow.
Who were the exact Uchia's that were conspiring against the leaf. We usually get a long back story to everything else.. this is still a mystery. Im sure we will get the rest of the story once Tobi's identity is revealed.
I believe Tobi maybe none other than Sauske's father.
Let me know what you think....
 

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This is a re-post:
Great Chapter!!!!!!!
I like the little ones!!
I can not wait for next week!!

Attention/Spoiler Alert:
Remember these predictions are more of a Spoiler so don't read if you don't want to be spoiled. If you don't want to be Spoiled don't read anything under these lines of dots.
.................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ..................................................
I just want to share this with you.

"I have a cousin in Japan and he gave me an info on Naruto. He said that his source is very reliable.
His English is alittle shady, so I will try my best to relay.
-According to him, Naruto is Rikudo Sage himself not his reincarnation, but with two souls.
-During the time Rikudo Sage decited to divide the Juubi chakra into nine tail beasts, he sealed his soul and powers inside the Kyubi itself. In doing so, he will come back in another time to finish his work.
-Naruto's Rikudo Sage form is the first step of awakening Rikudo's soul and powers.
-His second step of awakening is the one that he is or will be training on without knowing. This will provide him with not just Rikudo Sage's eyes, but also all his knowledge. It will combine two souls into one.
-Oh by the way, he also said something very interesting about Sasuke, Itachi and Zetzu; and also (Madara becoming a Jinjuriki as well).
He also said that Kishi is trying to make few changes in his original Naruto final look. Get ready to see Naruto with long hair and some crazy staff and big scroll and cape and more.
-Oh he also said something about Naruto confronting the Kyubi once more before this changes or soul combining thing.
-Oh I forgot about Jiraiya and Kabuto too.
I wish I could get more out of him especially about Jiraiya and Itachi. But he said he shouldn't be telling me all of this cause I am going post it."

A list of things that wil happen in the next chapters...
There is something nice for the Sasuke fanboys, and the Jiraiya fanboys!

1- Naruto's connection with the First Hokage will be soon reveal.

2- Madara vs. Naruto round 1 will happen soon and Madara will retreat. It will be more of a test of strength. They will both learn about each other’s powers.

3- Kabuto's true target is Naruto. He will explain why soon.

4- Madara's interest in Naruto is more than just the Kyubi. Guess what else he is after?

5- Jiraiya's re-appearance is around the corner and we will reveal a lot of juicy stuff:
"Jiraiya cant come back...he's dead!! and he cant be resurected becua ethey dont have any of his dna, his body sank to the bottom of the sea!"
Yes, according to Kabuto. And Kabuto is one of antagonist so he has the right to lie sometimes, making us believe that he had failed acquiring Jiraiya-sama's DNA.
Moreover, Jiraiya's blood were all over the place. White blood cell contains DNA imprints. Thus, Kabuto, an exceptional medic, may figure it out and revive Jiraiya-sama via Edo Tensei.

6- Shinobi HQ will soon be attack. Three guess who 666.

7- Naruto can somehow use all the five elements, some of Jiraiya, Minato, Kushina jutsu and it will be explain. This jutsu includes Uzumaki sealing jutsus as well.

8- Something about the long hair Madara will soon be shown. I don't understand that one.

9- 3rd Raikage, 2nd Mizukage and Gaara's father were all bloodline limit user.

10- One of sasuke's new powers is to slow down time in the real world. It will make him seem faster than his enemy. Unlike Tsukuyomi which happens in the mind, this one happens outside of the mind.

11- Another of Sasuke upgrade will be his amaterasu shield.

12- I almost forgot. Black half Zetzu was created with Madara's DNA. In other word, Zetzu is made up of both Hashirama's DNA (white Zetzu) and Madara's DNA (black Zetzu).

13- I forgot to say this very important hint about Madara's teleportation. According to the reliable source, Zetzu is the main key for his Time/Space Jutsu. Just like Minato, Madara needs something to guide him of his exit/entrance. In other word, the way Madara knows where to find and appears to someone is through Zetzu. This information will soon be revealed.

I think this is scary...somebody the same or other thoughts?
This is not mine, someone posted this in NWAnime.com.
You know what??? None of this seem far fetched.. Actually a lot of it seems highly likely. It explains some thing people have been wondering about .

I can wait to find out if this is all true..
 

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Just masashi will give to sasuke the full power of
So6p eyes and doutsus


To naruto the power of the strengh and bla bpa bla
Thongs connected with his body and soul
But when no1 know :p :p
 

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Tobi is Uciha Kagami. He use Uciha Obito's right eye to perform space-time jutsu like Kakashi. It just his level is better than Kakashi as he is Uchiha..
 

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This is a re-post:
Great Chapter!!!!!!!
I like the little ones!!
I can not wait for next week!!

Attention/Spoiler Alert:
Remember these predictions are more of a Spoiler so don't read if you don't want to be spoiled. If you don't want to be Spoiled don't read anything under these lines of dots.
.................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ..................................................
I just want to share this with you.

"I have a cousin in Japan and he gave me an info on Naruto. He said that his source is very reliable.
His English is alittle shady, so I will try my best to relay.
-According to him, Naruto is Rikudo Sage himself not his reincarnation, but with two souls.
-During the time Rikudo Sage decited to divide the Juubi chakra into nine tail beasts, he sealed his soul and powers inside the Kyubi itself. In doing so, he will come back in another time to finish his work.
-Naruto's Rikudo Sage form is the first step of awakening Rikudo's soul and powers.
-His second step of awakening is the one that he is or will be training on without knowing. This will provide him with not just Rikudo Sage's eyes, but also all his knowledge. It will combine two souls into one.
-Oh by the way, he also said something very interesting about Sasuke, Itachi and Zetzu; and also (Madara becoming a Jinjuriki as well).
He also said that Kishi is trying to make few changes in his original Naruto final look. Get ready to see Naruto with long hair and some crazy staff and big scroll and cape and more.
-Oh he also said something about Naruto confronting the Kyubi once more before this changes or soul combining thing.
-Oh I forgot about Jiraiya and Kabuto too.
I wish I could get more out of him especially about Jiraiya and Itachi. But he said he shouldn't be telling me all of this cause I am going post it."

A list of things that wil happen in the next chapters...
There is something nice for the Sasuke fanboys, and the Jiraiya fanboys!

1- Naruto's connection with the First Hokage will be soon reveal.

2- Madara vs. Naruto round 1 will happen soon and Madara will retreat. It will be more of a test of strength. They will both learn about each other’s powers.

3- Kabuto's true target is Naruto. He will explain why soon.

4- Madara's interest in Naruto is more than just the Kyubi. Guess what else he is after?

5- Jiraiya's re-appearance is around the corner and we will reveal a lot of juicy stuff:
"Jiraiya cant come back...he's dead!! and he cant be resurected becua ethey dont have any of his dna, his body sank to the bottom of the sea!"
Yes, according to Kabuto. And Kabuto is one of antagonist so he has the right to lie sometimes, making us believe that he had failed acquiring Jiraiya-sama's DNA.
Moreover, Jiraiya's blood were all over the place. White blood cell contains DNA imprints. Thus, Kabuto, an exceptional medic, may figure it out and revive Jiraiya-sama via Edo Tensei.

6- Shinobi HQ will soon be attack. Three guess who 666.

7- Naruto can somehow use all the five elements, some of Jiraiya, Minato, Kushina jutsu and it will be explain. This jutsu includes Uzumaki sealing jutsus as well.

8- Something about the long hair Madara will soon be shown. I don't understand that one.

9- 3rd Raikage, 2nd Mizukage and Gaara's father were all bloodline limit user.

10- One of sasuke's new powers is to slow down time in the real world. It will make him seem faster than his enemy. Unlike Tsukuyomi which happens in the mind, this one happens outside of the mind.

11- Another of Sasuke upgrade will be his amaterasu shield.

12- I almost forgot. Black half Zetzu was created with Madara's DNA. In other word, Zetzu is made up of both Hashirama's DNA (white Zetzu) and Madara's DNA (black Zetzu).

13- I forgot to say this very important hint about Madara's teleportation. According to the reliable source, Zetzu is the main key for his Time/Space Jutsu. Just like Minato, Madara needs something to guide him of his exit/entrance. In other word, the way Madara knows where to find and appears to someone is through Zetzu. This information will soon be revealed.

I think this is scary...somebody the same or other thoughts?
This is not mine, someone posted this in NWAnime.com.
Hm i know that alrdy . Almost.
 

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what a chapter! finally proof of the so6p, kurama was so damn cute i want one lmk..i don't think naruto has all the tailed beast in him now, maybe just gave him a little extra power to fight on..if he did have all the tails his fight with sasuke would be like a training exercise for him lmao..i do hope in the next chapter they tell us more of the so6p..or maybe where saskue is, or itachi, or whats happinng with the fight with the other madara.. :)
 

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He is 100% not Tobi, cause as we see in the manga, his hair isn't dark coloured, but light. His hair is also a bit dark cause of the flashback and the whole image is a bit dark.
 
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