Why are you atheists/agnostic?

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nagato9

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The bible shouldn't be taken so literally, it is man-made. This means the bible's text is based off an opinion and therefore isn't fact. The bible is just a way to encourage good morals, which it has succeeded in doing. Imagine a world where people didn't consider killing a bad thing, it would be chaotic. But if the bible has influenced your decision to become an atheist then you might want to re-think that decision, or at least come up with a better reason.

Many atheist have a skewed image of God based on misguided beliefs. Such as thinking of God as some sort of genie that exists to cure all of their problems, then quickly turning atheist when their prayers go unanswered, leading them to think he must not be exist. Or the fact that close-minded individuals deem that because they've never seen God physically, he must not be real.

As taught in a Physics course, things such as force of gravity, force of tension, normal force or even the wind are as real as the chair you're sitting on, but never seen. Therefore, why is it so hard to believe in something you can't see? If there isn't a God so be it, but if there is, what do you lose by believing in him?

The truth of the matter is, no one has concrete evidence of God's existence. Each side can and will argue for centuries, but it is all a matter of opinion, which means neither side can be considered as fact. It is best to be open-minded to all possibilities.

no dude, i don't believe in god because its just so far fetched and not logical.
 
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i disagree because the idea of there being an all powerful person that has magical powers that no one (not one single person) has seen, exists. i believe we are alive today because of trillions of years of coincidences.

you can say that, but thats not the message, im simply stating that anytihng goes, and we can't be completely sure of our guesses until we have un-deniable proff, but at the same time, we are more than free to follow our beliefes, because hey, who knows you might actually be right in the end
 
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theres also the idea of the word GOD, every religion has a different name, and they end up disputing against one another when they are saying the same thing! so i say supreme beign when refering to god, not saying one exists, but im not saying one doesnt, im nobody to judge that
 

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What amuses me is that everyone says God is the reason we know rape and murder is wrong.....Did ANYONE study history? Rape and murder used to be every day occurrences.
 

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you can say that, but thats not the message, im simply stating that anytihng goes, and we can't be completely sure of our guesses until we have un-deniable proff, but at the same time, we are more than free to follow our beliefes, because hey, who knows you might actually be right in the end

but science nor the bible is about guesses, the bible is and attempt to explain unexplainable phenomenas to people in the 1st century. and science is about centuries of research that is backed up by evidence that is not far fetched
 

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That makes no sense.... If the earth can not be made on it's own how can god? In the olden days people used to say rain was from the gods and the lightning because they had NO IDEA how that could happen on it's own.... Now we know how that happens so we do not claim that gods do these things.

Just because we do not understand something it does not mean that a god did it.

so how is weather created? how does it come into form? we humans can't control the weather. your whole paragraph doesn't make any sense, refrain from posting please. people like you need to open your mind.

on topic: i feel atheists do not believe because they are to bent out on needing proof. lets say i had proof that GOD is real, but only GOD showed me and a few others? i couldn't show everyone else, if GOD only intended for us too see these happenings. my advice is that you shouldn't be so close minded, open your mind, close your physical eyes, and open the spiritual eyes.

lemme say this, i have seen GOD , make a non- believer tremble in fear, and cry, believe it.. think i am lying if you want to. like many peopleand myself say, GOD works in mysterious ways, and it is awesome!!
 

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i believe that science is man kinds way of explaining things and EVERYTHING through rational, logical, and factual information can be explained and that just because theres something science cant explain, it doesnt mean that it will remain so, its just that the same way we couldnt see atoms until the microscope, we cant see or see(metaphorically) certain things until we develope the knowledge to do so,

I liked that sentence :D
 

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no dude, i don't believe in god because its just so far fetched and not logical.

I am not a christian but unlike you I am not arrogant enough to claim that I know enough to believe with certainty that a god or gods do not exist.

What in nature denies the existence of a higher being than us?

Take for example ants, or some other bug. What are we to them? Gods? Seemingly all powerful and by comparison to their life-span, near immortal.

To deny the possibility of the existence of God or, any higher power is just as foolhardy as blindly following words written in a book by people thousands of years ago.

In my opinion it is illogical to try and argue against god by saying that it can't be. Consider what people in the stone age would think of us, we are able to see things with telescopes in space, we can send bombs to destroy whole cities, we can fly in planes. What would the neanderthal man think of that? Would it not be godlike?

Why can there be no higher powers in the universe?

(BTW I am playing devil's advocate as I will be arguing against the people who were dumb enough to claim that dinosaurs didn't exist and that there bones aren't real things, as well as arguing against those who dismiss any possibilities that exceed their understand)
 

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so how is weather created? how does it come into form? we humans can't control the weather. your whole paragraph doesn't make any sense, refrain from posting please. people like you need to open your mind.

on topic: i feel atheists do not believe because they are to bent out on needing proof. lets say i had proof that GOD is real, but only GOD showed me and a few others? i couldn't show everyone else, if GOD only intended for us too see these happenings. my advice is that you shouldn't be so close minded, open your mind, close your physical eyes, and open the spiritual eyes.

lemme say this, i have seen GOD , make a non- believer tremble in fear, and cry, believe it.. think i am lying if you want to. like many peopleand myself say, GOD works in mysterious ways, and it is awesome!!

so ignorant... what he said made perfect sense but your are too idiotic to understand. what he meant is that not we have no reason to believe that a god makes the rain and lightning because of how far technology has gone, we can prove for a fact that it is because the dun evaporates the water forming clouds. you should stop posting because what you saw is called a DREAM. o saw super man in my dream, does that mean he is real?
 

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I am not a christian but unlike you I am not arrogant enough to claim that I know enough to believe with certainty that a god or gods do not exist.

What in nature denies the existence of a higher being than us?

Take for example ants, or some other bug. What are we to them? Gods? Seemingly all powerful and by comparison to their life-span, near immortal.

To deny the possibility of the existence of God or, any higher power is just as foolhardy as blindly following words written in a book by people thousands of years ago.

In my opinion it is illogical to try and argue against god by saying that it can't be. Consider what people in the stone age would think of us, we are able to see things with telescopes in space, we can send bombs to destroy whole cities, we can fly in planes. What would the neanderthal man think of that? Would it not be godlike?

Why can there be no higher powers in the universe?

(BTW I am playing devil's advocate as I will be arguing against the people who were dumb enough to claim that dinosaurs didn't exist and that there bones aren't real things, as well as arguing against those who dismiss any possibilities that exceed their understand)

no... comparing us to ants makes not sense what so ever because we do not run our lives with instincts that we are born with. we learn, discover and innovate.
 

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no dude, i don't believe in god because its just so far fetched and not logical.

It can also be argued that it is illogical to believe that life and everything in it created itself, or exist by coincidence, which is what atheism implies seeing as they believe it was not God who is responsible for us being here.

As I said, both sides can hold there own in a argument but that doesn't make it fact. Be open-minded.
 
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no... comparing us to ants makes not sense what so ever because we do not run our lives with instincts that we are born with. we learn, discover and innovate.

actually yea, we do learn, inovated and all, but there are some things that we do on instinc, other wise how do you think people way back in the day knew how to have *** when the internet and porn hadnt been invented yet lol:flirty1:WTHxd
 

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so ignorant... what he said made perfect sense but your are too idiotic to understand. what he meant is that not we have no reason to believe that a god makes the rain and lightning because of how far technology has gone, we can prove for a fact that it is because the dun evaporates the water forming clouds. you should stop posting because what you saw is called a DREAM. o saw super man in my dream, does that mean he is real?

LMAO you call me ignorant and you know nothing of whats happened? kid get a life, i am 20 years old, i don't gotta play about the things i say, I have seen wonders that i am forbidden to speak of.. kid get your mind right, your mind is bound to this world, your to close minded. how does it make a dream , when the people around me experienced it to?

like i said, don't be close minded, and if you wanna ask what religion i am in, i do not claim a religion, i am a firm believer in what i believe in.. you have no idea the things i have seen, so don't comment on something you know nothing about.
 

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actually yea, we do learn, inovated and all, but there are some things that we do on instinc, other wise how do you think people way back in the day knew how to have *** when the internet and porn hadnt been invented yet lol:flirty1:WTHxd

yeah lol we do have some instinct but its is only a fraction of what we do on a daily basis rather then a ant all it does it gather food and build piles of dirt
 

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no... comparing us to ants makes not sense what so ever because we do not run our lives with instincts that we are born with. we learn, discover and innovate.

At one point in our history we did.

We are comparable to any other animal in the world. We may have evolved larger brains and the ability to think abstract thoughts but we are still animals like it or not.

SO thank you very much sir. Not comparing us to other animals is what makes no sense. In fact, you using that as an argument actually places you solely on the religion side, because religions are the only place where people put more significance on human life than animals.

Why is that? Because people who believe in evolution (how can you not, it is both a theory and a fact) understand that we are all evolved from the original same unicellular organism, and that just because we have gotten to this point does not mean that all animals and ourselves are in stasis. Evolution is a constant force working over thousands, millions of years.

So to say my comparison makes no sense is retarded. In case you didn't notice I also compared us to our direct ancestors in neanderthals. And you didn't answer my question, what would they see us as? Similarly shaped creatures with powers and intelligence far beyond their own understanding.

So thank you and good day sir.
 

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At one point in our history we did.

We are comparable to any other animal in the world. We may have evolved larger brains and the ability to think abstract thoughts but we are still animals like it or not.

SO thank you very much sir. Not comparing us to other animals is what makes no sense. In fact, you using that as an argument actually places you solely on the religion side, because religions are the only place where people put more significance on human life than animals.

Why is that? Because people who believe in evolution (how can you not, it is both a theory and a fact) understand that we are all evolved from the original same unicellular organism, and that just because we have gotten to this point does not mean that all animals and ourselves are in stasis. Evolution is a constant force working over thousands, millions of years.

So to say my comparison makes no sense is retarded. In case you didn't notice I also compared us to our direct ancestors in neanderthals. And you didn't answer my question, what would they see us as? Similarly shaped creatures with powers and intelligence far beyond their own understanding.

So thank you and good day sir.

no, what made the human race like no other animal is our ability to learn and develop, without that we would have never made it to where we are now. even cave men learned and developed (even thought it doesn't seem like it because they had so much to learn). and the funniest part is that you called me arrogant, but that last like "so thank you and good day sir" was useless and made you look like a pretentious 12 year old.
 
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no... comparing us to ants makes not sense what so ever because we do not run our lives with instincts that we are born with. we learn, discover and innovate.

besides what he was trying to explain was the concept of how a being may seem like a superior being to another less developed or technologically deprived beign
and also whose whose to say we humans are all that and that there arent higher beigns than us, far as my imagination and logic go, there might be 20ft giants on some other planet that are a warlike race and come to invade us, but luckly we had technology from a 3mile long alien battleship that crashed on an island and we kicked the invaders asses.....wait that wasnt the best example..but you get the idea...REMAKE ROBOTECH FOR THE XBOX 360!:D
 

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no, what made the human race like no other animal is our ability to learn and develop, without that we would have never made it to where we are now. even cave men learned and developed (even thought it doesn't seem like it because they had so much to learn).

lol seriously how old are you? we are not the only ones that learn and develop.. wow, you just proved yourself , just close your mouth, your argument is invalid. ALL animals learn and develop. you make no sense.. humans just happen to be one of the smartest species, it has been stated that were not the smartest species on this planet.
 
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