Nagato Uzumaki vs Madara Uchiha

[Raito]

Now matter how good the wood release is in a Rinnegan battle, but additional techniques are always better. And no, he can use even his Mangekyou techniques by using the Rinnegan because if he bears the power of the EMS in himself he can use it at anytime, also by carrying the Rinnegan. And even if he would have to switch in the EMS, this change-over goes very fast, as we've seen when Naruto throws his Rasenshuriken to Madara.

It does not matter, how good the EMS and Mokuton will be in a Rinnegan battle, but additional abilities are always better, especially abilities like the Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan and Senju Hashiramas wood release. Common, don't be so partial, Madara is stronger that's fact.

 

[inflame]

aaahhhh a true battle indeed......Madara vs Nagato.

It is very hard to pick between the two. However i picked Nagato because he is one of my fav character and i don't care if you call me a fan boy. There is also another reason why i picked Nagato, it's really simple actually....... Madara obtained his renningun shortly before his death as for Nagato he has wielded the renningun for years. So that points out that he simply knows more about it's tech and capabilities. I also think that Nagato has truly more chakra than Madara ( MY OPINION ) because he is uzumaki.

I would really like to say this battle is a 50/50 xD
" it's not what you have, it's how you use it "

 

[Naruto UzRinneganMaki]

Now matter how good the wood release is in a Rinnegan battle, but additional techniques are always better. And no, he can use even his Mangekyou techniques by using the Rinnegan because if he bears the power of the EMS in himself he can use it at anytime, also by carrying the Rinnegan. And even if he would have to switch in the EMS, this change-over goes very fast, as we've seen when Naruto throws his Rasenshuriken to Madara.

It does not matter, how good the EMS and Mokuton will be in a Rinnegan battle, but additional abilities are always better, especially abilities like the Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan and Senju Hashiramas wood release. Common, don't be so partial, Madara is stronger that's fact.

I mean, he's gonna waste his chakra on side Jutsus.
and Madara doesn't use EMS against Kages now.

He clearly stated: "I better use Rinnegan Power from here"
when Mei used melting jutsu and Oinky and Raikage used the thunder smashing thing.
(when his susanoo broke)

which means other jutsus to Madara are useless/Ineffective and it's waste of energy.

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

Yeah that, I've got nothing to say.

But that's alliance.

not about how war broke out.

So again, think carefully of what you say in argument.

war broke out because the akatsuki raped the jins one after another and the 5 kage got scared so they have a meeting and topi pop out and use uchiha madara name in other words uchiha madara name is also the factor why the 5 kage decided to ignore their difference in the past, u can see in that page tsunade says we were all played for suckers :shrug:

 

[Raito]

Not at all. It needed the united force of three kages to damage the incomplete Susanoo.
Only by using the full power of his EMS he would take the kages in very big trouble. But that's plot no jutsu, we will see the full power of the EMS on Sasukes fight against Naruto.

This isn't the fight against the five Kages and Madara can always switch into the EMS or use the wood release, additional to have the power of the Rinnegan, like Nagato.

So Madara has beside the six paths, all element releases and Gedo Mazo his powerful genjutsus, Tsukuyomi, Amaterasu, Susanoo and the (according to Itachi) "true" power of the EMS.

Madara wins, stop this debate .

 

[Naruto UzRinneganMaki]

war broke out because the akatsuki raped the jins one after another and the 5 kage got scared so they have a meeting and topi pop out and use uchiha madara name in other words uchiha madara name is also the factor why the 5 kage decided to ignore their difference in the past, u can see in that page tsunade says we were all played for suckers :shrug:

well, then according to what you just said, war broke out because Tobi was one of Akatsukixd.

and tsunade said we were all played for suckers because they relize that they made alliance for nothing.

So again, it's not about how war broke out.
Be careful of wat you say in argument. xd

 

[Naruto UzRinneganMaki]

Not at all. It needed the united force of three kages to damage the incomplete Susanoo.
Only by using the full power of his EMS he would take the kages in very big trouble. But that's plot no jutsu, we will see the full power of the EMS on Sasukes fight against Naruto.

This isn't the fight against the five Kages and Madara can always switch into the EMS or use the wood release, additional to have the power of the Rinnegan, like Nagato.

So Madara has beside the six paths, all element releases and Gedo Mazo his powerful genjutsus, Tsukuyomi, Amaterasu, Susanoo and the (according to Itachi) "true" power of the EMS.

Madara wins, stop this debate .

well, then stop the debate with you

But I'll wait for LT Iceman

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

well, then according to what you just said, war broke out because Tobi was one of Akatsukixd.

and tsunade said we were all played for suckers because they relize that they made alliance for nothing.

So again, it's not about how war broke out.
Be careful of wat you say in argument. xd

why would tsunade think that they made the alliance for nothing ? because they've been duped by tobi

and u should take ur own advice since u said madara name mean nothing and yet manga disagree:shrug:

 

[mateosss]

of course UCHI MADARA won!!!! he is a GOD even SO6P cant win to MADARA even the GAY MINATO cant win...MINATO the GAY cant even give ITACHI a scrath...so stop ur dream MINATO fan GAYS MINATO cant win to ITACHI..MINATO fan boys are just POLL SPAMERSS GAYS......by the way MADARA won to this....he has SUSANOO active while has rinnegan

 

[Lt Iceman]

does any ninja even get freaked out/scared by his name? no, it doesn't effect the battle.

Onoki disagress,go look at chapter 467,he pretty much said why would he shinobi like madara hid ein shadows like tobi did,a man of his caliber could get what he wanted

that's what the old man said

Another thing chapter 560 last page(look at gaara's facial expression and words mostly)

this point was demolished now let's move on

No manga evidence, and i don't see how Mokuton will effect the battle of rinnegan user. Care to explain?

Outside of Rinnegan Nagato hasn't shown any ability,unlike madara which was praised trough out history for his EMS feats,so that's why my claim Mokuton>Nagato's arsenal

hashirama was praised solely for his strong dna and Mokuton,with his kekkei genkai he stood at the top of the Shinobi world even at the top of EMS madara in a war thorn era,so bar CST and CT(which are covered by them meteors) all the rest of nagato's arsenal is covered/in check

and just to pick out, I don't know How Senju DNA helps in battle. Does he get extra storage of chakra? It's not shown in Manga. If it is, Link it to me.

I'm so tired of replying to such bullshit,go look at Sasuke vs Danzou,the old man could sustain the burden of having 10 sharingans in his arm+one in the eye while not even being an Uchia,why?,because of the stamina augmentation of hashi's dna/chakra boost

Shisui Kotoamatsukami after it's casted takes 10 years to activate again,but Danzou still could use it once a day,why because of hashi's dna/chakra boost

Gentleman is clear you lack of the basic skills needed to understand a simple manga as naruto,i don't even want to add insult to injury...

Now let's move on

I never said anything about that, so stop speaking as if i'm disagreeing with everyting...xd

whatever...it's called strategical retreat,indeed tough you showed some wisdom

Again, you are jumping right to the conclusion...
Care to explain why Nagato needs preparation?
Because In anime, he used it right away as soon as he said: SHINRA TENSEI!!

:flaw: he needed prep time,because he had to disable the paths go all up in the air,and then cast the jutsu

all that happened because there wasn't any opponent in the area who could pressure him during all the jutsu preparation

in a scenario in wich madara is charging at you at all times(or viceversa) tell me where is the time to disable the paths to gather chakra and fly up in the air?...the answer is there isn't

again, you said you are basing everyting on manga... Look what you did herexd.was their any scene where there was 2 meteors vs Chibaku tensei and Gedo Mazo?
No. So you are being Biased with your opinion over here.

This section of the naruto base,is where we take characters form the manga and make a judgemental call on a possible winner in a battle which has never taken palce,so for extension even the jutsus :flaw:

So by me saying 2 meteors>Chibaku tensei i made the right judgemental call,because i firmly believe9and you too i think) know for a fact that 2 asteroids are more than a giant statue and a giant rock,without get to much into physics,just think of the velocity and kinectic energy accumulated by the downward motion of a asteroid from the space on collision course with another rock which is still in the air,add a 2nd asteroid for the giant statue and i HOPE you can understand where my decision was coming from.

 

[snake orochimaru]

of course UCHI MADARA won!!!! he is a GOD even SO6P cant win to MADARA even the GAY MINATO cant win...MINATO the GAY cant even give ITACHI a scrath...so stop ur dream MINATO fan GAYS MINATO cant win to ITACHI..MINATO fan boys are just POLL SPAMERSS GAYS......by the way MADARA won to this....he has SUSANOO active while has rinnegan

stupid troll is stupid :izuna:

 

[Blaze Release]

Madara would win.
He can do the exact same thing that nagato can do and infact, better.
If take into consideration his ems aswell and mokouton, he will beat nagato with mid difficulty

 

[Kira was Righteous]

Madara would win.
He can do the exact same thing that nagato can do and infact, better.
If take into consideration his ems aswell and mokouton, he will beat nagato with mid difficulty

so you think madara can beat Nagato who has more rinnegan experience and he has gedo mazo and his paths ? like for real you actually think that or just saying it because its madara?

 

[Blaze Release]

so you think madara can beat Nagato who has more rinnegan experience and he has gedo mazo and his paths ? like for real you actually think that or just saying it because its madara?

From what weve seen every rennigan user had gedo mazo, it comes with the rennigan, therefore its safe to say madara also has one, after all tobi has his, nagato has his.

Secondly although the paths are strong, madara would wipe the floor with them because they can have a limited jutsu's, since nagato has distributed his abilities to each. If its the paths, madara will win with low difficulty. If its a healthy nagato himself he would lose with mid difficulty

 

[Kira was Righteous]

From what weve seen every rennigan user had gedo mazo, it comes with the rennigan, therefore its safe to say madara also has one, after all tobi has his, nagato has his.

Secondly although the paths are strong, madara would wipe the floor with them because they can have a limited jutsu's, since nagato has distributed his abilities to each. If its the paths, madara will win with low difficulty. If its a healthy nagato himself he would lose with mid difficulty

Gedo Mazo is nagatos technique why do you think tobi started using it after he got nagatos eye

you underestimate nagato madara would find it difficult vs a rinnegan user with more experience nagato could beat madara by himself his techniques are too powerful(celestial tera sphere,divine attractor,gedo mazo,rinnei tensei) i put gedo mazo to see how people think gedo mazos final technique soul dragon would kill madara in one hit (providing madara doesn't have space time)
just because its madara doesn't mean he will win

 

[Tosen]

Madara would win.
He can do the exact same thing that nagato can do and infact, better.
If take into consideration his ems aswell and mokouton, he will beat nagato with mid difficulty

Nagato has the experienced factor and also can use the rinnegan better than Madara.

If Nagato has gedo mazo like the OP says then Nagato takes this bec of the powers of 1-7 tailed beast powering it.

 

[Lt Iceman]

Gedo Mazo is nagatos technique why do you think tobi started using it after he got nagatos eye

you underestimate nagato madara would find it difficult vs a rinnegan user with more experience nagato could beat madara by himself his techniques are too powerful(celestial tera sphere,divine attractor,gedo mazo,rinnei tensei) i put gedo mazo to see how people think gedo mazos final technique soul dragon would kill madara in one hit (providing madara doesn't have space time)
just because its madara doesn't mean he will win

I'll repeat what i stated already about gedo mazo to anjother user on this thread

gedo mazo+Chibaku tensei<2 asteroids(for referecne go check my previous post)

and moreover the reason nagato hasn't ever used gedo mazou is the reason why he is crippled U_U

nagato isn't as proficient as tobi with the heretic statue,as tobi doesn't get stabbed in the back an crippled by black rods when he uses it

and to the part you stated that tobi is able to use gedo mazou because he has nagato's eyes

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nagato's eyes is madara eyes so your point was floating on entirely on bullshit(bias towards nagato namely)

 

[Raito]

Who says that Nagato is the better Rinnegan user? Madara used a huge meteor, his experience and power is on a far higher level. His knowledge is like Tobis, he know all secrets obout the sage of the six paths, about the biju, about the Rinnegan and Sharingan - of course he's more skilled.

And what about the powerful EMS and mokuton? Madara can't use only the Rinnegan, he have a second, very powerful Doujutsu and the wood release. He can even control the Kyuubi.

And no, Gedo Mazo belongs to the Rinnegan, not to Nagato.

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

Nagato has the experienced factor and also can use the rinnegan better than Madara.

If Nagato has gedo mazo like the OP says then Nagato takes this bec of the powers of 1-7 tailed beast powering it.

gedo mazo is rinnegan tech LOL at ppl who say it was nagato tech
so most likely madara can use it too

and as we all know CT<meteor

 

[Tosen]

I'll repeat what i stated already about gedo mazo to anjother user on this thread

gedo mazo+Chibaku tensei<2 asteroids(for referecne go check my previous post)

and moreover the reason nagato hasn't ever used gedo mazou is the reason why he is crippled U_U

nagato isn't as proficient as tobi with the heretic statue,as tobi doesn't get stabbed in the back an crippled by black rods when he uses it

and to the part you stated that tobi is able to use gedo mazou because he has nagato's eyes

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nagato's eyes is madara eyes so your point was floating on entirely on bullshit(bias towards nagato namely)

Nagato used his own body to power the demonic statue of the outer path while Tobi uses the the tailed beast power

Summoning gedo Mazo while projecting urself from another country using a dead puppet while also projecting all of the akatsuki members to a single point takes considrable mastery of both rinnegan and Gedo Mazo mastery