Naruto is nothing without Kiyuubi?

[Mante]

Can Naruto beat MS or normal Sasuke without the help of kiyuûbi?
Sage mode - even in SM naruto can make only 5 rashin shirukens (right?)..
Naruto < Kakashi
Naruto < Kages ( seperately)
Naruto < all akatsuki members (separately) except Zetsu
...
I'm not underrating him. And I know that I maybe wrong. Any ideas?​

 

[Lysander]

yeah then count sasuke not having curse mark!

 

[Xam]

and sasuke is nothing without sharingan

 

[This is my username]

You're wrong (no offence)

without kyuubi ma and pa can sit on Naruto's shoulder, so he can mbecome sage mode unlimited times.

So he would be as powerful as jiraya.

 

[besteawuz]

Can Naruto beat MS or normal Sasuke without the help of kiyuûbi?
Sage mode - even in SM naruto can make only 5 rashin shirukens (right?)..
Naruto < Kakashi
Naruto < Kages ( seperately)
Naruto < all akatsuki members (separately) except Zetsu
...
I'm not underrating him. And I know that I maybe wrong. Any ideas?​

YOUR DEFINITLY WRONG
Naruto>Kakashi
Naruto> Kages (seperately)
Naruto>Akatsuki (seperately)
If you really wanna keep being a dumbass and underrating Naruto I'll underrate Sasuke if thats what you want.
"Sage mode - even in SM naruto can make only 5 rashin shirukens (right?).."
How does that make Naruto weak? :flaw:
Naruto> MS Sasuke
KM Naruto >= EMS Sasuke most likely
Guys ignore this kid he just wants to create a thread where tons of people can post so he can be like "Yeah, I created that thread."
He just wants attention don't give it to him.

 

[itachiEMS]

Naruto is still a whole lot powerful without the Kyuubi but Sasuke is nothing wihtout Sharingan

 

[Tawleyn]

You're wrong (no offence)

without kyuubi ma and pa can sit on Naruto's shoulder, so he can mbecome sage mode unlimited times.

So he would be as powerful as jiraya.

Never thought about that, but you're 100% spot on! +rep just cause it never occurred to me :rofl:

 

[Migualon J.J.]

You're wrong (no offence)

without kyuubi ma and pa can sit on Naruto's shoulder, so he can mbecome sage mode unlimited times.

So he would be as powerful as jiraya.

he is stronger than Jiraya in his SM, with Ma and Pa he would have unlimitid time SM, yeah, and he would be able to throw Rasen Shurikens almost as normal shurikens xd and he can beat almost anyone in the Akatsuki with his SM only U_U

to Kages, i don´t think he can beat them seperately, yeah, he can beat Gaara and Tsunade, but i doubt he can beat others, for sure not A (considering him without Kyuubi)

 

[Vayne]

he is stronger than Jiraya in his SM, with Ma and Pa he would have unlimitid time SM, yeah, and he would be able to throw Rasen Shurikens almost as normal shurikens xd and he can beat almost anyone in the Akatsuki with his SM only U_U

to Kages, i don´t think he can beat them seperately, yeah, he can beat Gaara and Tsunade, but i doubt he can beat others, for sure not A (considering him without Kyuubi)

this and he can beat tsunade garaa ooinki and mei>=naruto and A >>>>>>=naruto

 

[BigTDogg220]

Naruto is still a whole lot powerful without the Kyuubi but Sasuke is nothing wihtout Sharingan

Yeah, it's hard to imagine how Sasuke would change without the sharingan. Naruto's entire character would be different without the 9 tails. He would likely still have at least one parent, Minato, and he'd be a completely different shinobi.

 

[HokageKid]

and sasuke is nothing without sharingan

completely different

 

[Zlad]

''Is sasuke nothing without susanooa nd sharingan?''

Stupid question. He has sage mode

 

[HokageKid]

YOUR DEFINITLY WRONG
Naruto>Kakashi
Naruto> Kages (seperately)
Naruto>Akatsuki (seperately)
If you really wanna keep being a dumbass and underrating Naruto I'll underrate Sasuke if thats what you want.
"Sage mode - even in SM naruto can make only 5 rashin shirukens (right?).."
How does that make Naruto weak? :flaw:
Naruto> MS Sasuke
KM Naruto >= EMS Sasuke most likely
Guys ignore this kid he just wants to create a thread where tons of people can post so he can be like "Yeah, I created that thread."
He just wants attention don't give it to him.

:flaw:
Naruto without KM vs Raikage, or Mizukage, or Tsuchikage is going to get ****ed into the ground

 

[HokageKid]

Why are people bringing up sasuke and the sharingan?
Using the Sharingan is still using his powers, he developed them and inherited them,
Using KM is using Kurama's power, he didn't develop kurama's chakra, and i guess in a way he inherited it but it's still completely different

 

[besteawuz]

:flaw:
Naruto without KM vs Raikage, or Mizukage, or Tsuchikage is going to get ****ed into the ground

ROFL? Naruto SM could atleast beat Mizu,Tsuchi and possibly Raikage
GOML Sasuke would be begging not to die without his Sharingan
Stupid kid I swear your one of the fanboys that really pisses me off.

 

[besteawuz]

Why are people bringing up sasuke and the sharingan?
Using the Sharingan is still using his powers, he developed them and inherited them,
Using KM is using Kurama's power, he didn't develop kurama's chakra, and i guess in a way he inherited it but it's still completely different

He was born with it it was a burden for him that most people could not undergo so get over yourself stupid fanboy doesn't know what he's talking about Kurama is his power since it had to be sealed inside someone who could contain it. ITS HIS POWER HE INHERITED IT just like SASUKE INHERITED HIS SHARINGAN.

 

[This is my username]

ROFL? Naruto SM could atleast beat Mizu,Tsuchi and possibly Raikage
GOML Sasuke would be begging not to die without his Sharingan
Stupid kid I swear your one of the fanboys that really pisses me off.

OOOH, BUTTON!

*presses the -rep button*

 

[Tawleyn]

Why are people bringing up sasuke and the sharingan?
Using the Sharingan is still using his powers, he developed them and inherited them,
Using KM is using Kurama's power, he didn't develop kurama's chakra, and i guess in a way he inherited it but it's still completely different

Actually using that logic, Naruto worked to get Kurama on his side. I would agree with you if Naruto was forcing Kurama to aid him. Granted at first he was doing that, but not in an evil sort of way... there was still balance (compared to Sharingan control which has no trade off, other than draining chakra from user, rather than trading with the fox) meaning if Naruto spammed his forced KM from Kurama, he would die.

 

[axelblaze]

U r wrong .
As i know that the vessels must have 2 b strong enough so that the bijju inside of him could nt take over him.
And naruto is fairly strong in it.
"And it battle one need only guts to win"-- by jiraiya

 

[HokageKid]

ROFL? Naruto SM could atleast beat Mizu,Tsuchi and possibly Raikage
GOML Sasuke would be begging not to die without his Sharingan
Stupid kid I swear your one of the fanboys that really pisses me off.

I doubt that, Naruto would most probably run straight into the dust release technique,
His only Long range jutsu is Rasenshuriken which can be combatted with Mei's lava release, and lets see how long those toads stay on naruto's shoulders when they're getting burned by acid
And as for the raikage, are you ****ing serious? The only reason Sasuke survived was because of Susano'o and blaze release, naruto has no great defenses like these, and he has no way of keeping up with raikage,
And you call me a fan-boy?
How does stating that Naruto would get owned by the Kage's make me a fan boy?
Also Saying Sasuke would be nothing without sharingan is completely different to Kyuubi mode, it's still Sasuke's abilities and Sasuke's power, whereas Naruto is using someone else power U_U gtfo