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This is one of the fights that before I entered this thread is already decided who I think would win, but gaara's fans have done him justice and now I'm not that sure.

We know that gai is at a disadvantage due to the surrounding, but also he is a close combat type which gaara is the exact opposite.
Now gaara's sand has improved a lot since the chunnin exams and although its pretty fast, Gai wouldn't need to open his gates to get past it. Lee taking off his weights got past it and I need not tell you that Gai is far superior than lee in everything, although I've acknowledged that gaara's sand is a lot faster now.

If Gai can get past his sand which he can then that's it, gaara's durability shouldn't be compared with kisame's. I do know that gaara tanked lee's strongest attack with his sand and guord, but Gai is superior than lee's. Do I believe gaara can tank morning peacock and.afternoon tiger?, no.

If Gai gets past his sand and opens his gates, gaara loses.

In gaara's case he has improved greatly and his sand can cause even the elite of ninja's trouble. Do I think his sand can stall Gai, for him to fly?, yes. once gaara is in the air life would get extremely hard and annoying for Gai.

I can see gaara stalling with his sand for him to fly then once in the air he can manipulate his sand, without Gai having an answer for how to counter this. Infact once gaara is in the air, gai would be on the defensive for the rest of the fight.

Gaara takes this with high difficulty
 
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This is one of the fights that before I entered this thread is already decided who I think would win, but gaara's fans have done him justice and now I'm not that sure.

We know that gai is at a disadvantage due to the surrounding, but also he is a close combat type which gaara is the exact opposite.
Now gaara's sand has improved a lot since.the chunnin exams and although its pretty fast, Gai wouldn't need to open his gates to get past it. Lee taking off his weights got past it and I need not tell you that Gai is far superior that lee in everything, although I've acknowledged that gaara's sand is a lot faster now.

If Gai can get past his sand which he can then that's.it. gaara's durability shouldn't be compared with kisame's. I do know that gaara tanked lee's strongest attack with his sand and guord, but Gai is superior that lee's. Do I believe gaara fan tank morning peacock and.afternoon tiger?, no.

If Gai gets past his sand and opens his gates, gaara loses.

In gaara's case he has improved greatly and his sand can cause even the elite of ninja's trouble. Do I think his sand can stall Gai, for him to fly?, yes. once gaara is in the air life would get extremely hard and annoying for Gai.

I can see gaara stalling with his sand for him to fly then once in the air he can manipulate his sand, without Gai having an answer for how to counter this. Infect once gaara is in the air, gai would be on the defensive for the rest of the fight.

Gaara takes this with high difficulty
wait so the terrain is in the dessert ?
 

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that shield of shukaku and as we know gaara cannot use that anymore and the reason gaara could use that huge sand statue because he was fighting in the desert so he can use the surrounding sand to his own but iDK how will it turn out if they were fighting in another terrain,


my bad since that chapter is uber boring seeing the troll kage and the cyrbaby kazekage fighting is boring, but still kisame durability is better than gaara,

oh and about that sand tsunami, that jutsu is not instant gaara need time to collect the sand form the terrain, well even if he manage to use that jutsu gai will jump out of range on that jutsu in 6 gate mode and blitz gaara :izuna:
Kisames durability is better than Gaaras, but that's not the point. The point is that Gaara was able to take a full on explosion without any sand to protect him from the Second Mizukage which goes to show that he can take a considerable amount of damage. That being said if he were to add his ultimate defense to that durability he could tank Daytime Tiger, and after that Guy would be useless.

And you're wrong about the Sand Tsunami. It's not instant but Gaara does not need time to gather sand for it. Nowhere was it stated in the manga that he needed time to gather sand for that move. Both in the manga and in the anime Gaara did a few hand seals, slapped his hands together and boom!

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I don't know about you, but all I saw was Gaara slap his hands together and make Kimimaro shit his pants.

And for your other point, that guy can jump high in the air in the sixth gate by using morning peacock. Okay, can Guy jump as high as Gaara can levitate with his sand? No. And let me show you another thing.

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You see the size of that thing? Gaara had to make enough sand to block that from the sky. Meaning that Gaara can manipulate sand while high above the ground.

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What the hell is Guy going to do if Gaara drops this on him? Followed by the sand burial. Give it up man, Guy doesn't stand a chance.
 

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Kisames durability is better than Gaaras, but that's not the point. The point is that Gaara was able to take a full on explosion without any sand to protect him from the Second Mizukage which goes to show that he can take a considerable amount of damage. That being said if he were to add his ultimate defense to that durability he could tank Daytime Tiger, and after that Guy would be useless.

And you're wrong about the Sand Tsunami. It's not instant but Gaara does not need time to gather sand for it. Nowhere was it stated in the manga that he needed time to gather sand for that move. Both in the manga and in the anime Gaara did a few hand seals, slapped his hands together and boom!

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And the second.

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I don't know about you, but all I saw was Gaara slap his hands together and make Kimimaro shit his pants.

And for your other point, that guy can jump high in the air in the sixth gate by using morning peacock. Okay, can Guy jump as high as Gaara can levitate with his sand? No. And let me show you another thing.

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You see the size of that thing? Gaara had to make enough sand to block that from the sky. Meaning that Gaara can manipulate sand while high above the ground.

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What the hell is Guy going to do if Gaara drops this on him? Followed by the sand burial. Give it up man, Guy doesn't stand a chance.

ok so let me settle this once and for all, actually i can still keep going in this discussion but since am getting tired to read ur wall of text no jutsu and its pain in the ass to repeat the same thing over and over again,

i say gaara will win if they fight in the desert, but if they fight in the rocky terrain and in the forest gai will beat gaara.

agree ?
 

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ok so let me settle this once and for all, actually i can still keep going in this discussion but since am getting tired to read ur wall of text no jutsu and its pain in the ass to repeat the same thing over and over again,

i say gaara will win if they fight in the desert, but if they fight in the rocky terrain and in the forest gai will beat gaara.

agree ?
No because Gaara can change the terrain to his liking, and make sand anywhere. And the sand jutsus I've mentioned are only a few of what Gaara are capable of, I haven't even touched on the sand bullet, sand clones, and the Desert Imperial Funeral. Even if the fight is on a lake Gaara can take to the skies and *** Guy up. Call it a wall of text no jutsu, or whatever other name you can come up with. I call it evidence.

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Gaara wins. End of story.
 

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No because Gaara can change the terrain to his liking, and make sand anywhere. And the sand jutsus I've mentioned are only a few of what Gaara are capable of, I haven't even touched on the sand bullet, sand clones, and the Desert Imperial Funeral. Even if the fight is on a lake Gaara can take to the skies and *** Guy up. Call it a wall of text no jutsu, or whatever other name you can come up with. I call it evidence.

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Gaara wins. End of story.
really ? tell me how gaara will win this fight in place like Amegakure and in the ocean.
 

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really ? tell me how gaara will win this fight in place like Amegakure and in the ocean.
Even though I am team Guy I thought I'd answer this question. Gaara can make sand anywhere there is rock including the ocean. Sand is made from eroded rock. Now I'm not cool enough to post pics and go search for the clips to back p the argument but I'm pretty sure it's said in the series that he can just create more sand.
 

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Even though I am team Guy I thought I'd answer this question. Gaara can make sand anywhere there is rock including the ocean. Sand is made from eroded rock. Now I'm not cool enough to post pics and go search for the clips to back p the argument but I'm pretty sure it's said in the series that he can just create more sand.
u have to remember in amegakure its always raining so using sand is kinda useless.
 

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really ? tell me how gaara will win this fight in place like Amegakure and in the ocean.
You do realize the ocean is FILLED with sand. T_____T And there's no proof that water renders Gaaras sand useless either. What the Second Mizukage used was something different. So water alone isn't enough to deter the sand.

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"The Second Mizukage also utilises a type of substance that Gaara stated to be more reminiscent of oil than water, as it was able to not only seep into his sand, but destroyed its construct."

If Gaara can pull sand from the ground high up above the sky, why wouldn't he be able to pull it from the bottom of the ocean? We already know that water alone can't stop his sand, and Guy can't reach him. So even if it is harder he can take the time he needs to pull up a massive amount of sand do drag Guy down to the bottom of the ocean. So in a sense, depending on how deep the bottom of the ocean is you aren't really safe from gaara near water.
 

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Even though I am team Guy I thought I'd answer this question. Gaara can make sand anywhere there is rock including the ocean. Sand is made from eroded rock. Now I'm not cool enough to post pics and go search for the clips to back p the argument but I'm pretty sure it's said in the series that he can just create more sand.
Yeah I posted that pic in the last page. Gaara basically says that if he has sand he can do anything, because Kimimaro thought he was limited to the sand in his gourd.
 

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You do realize the ocean is FILLED with sand. T_____T And there's no proof that water renders Gaaras sand useless either.
I'm not as far as you guys are but at the end of part 1 before Gaara was Kazekage I believe the guy with chakra absorbing armor got Gaara's sand wet and then he couldn't use it. Once again I'm not gonna search for the clip etc. but I think that's the case. But when watching that I wondered why Gaara could squeeze the water out....or turn his sand into glass wouldn't that be cool?! He might have fire nature idk...
 

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You do realize the ocean is FILLED with sand. T_____T And there's no proof that water renders Gaaras sand useless either. What the Second Mizukage used was something different. So water alone isn't enough to deter the sand.

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"The Second Mizukage also utilises a type of substance that Gaara stated to be more reminiscent of oil than water, as it was able to not only seep into his sand, but destroyed its construct."

If Gaara can pull sand from the ground high up above the sky, why wouldn't he be able to pull it from the bottom of the ocean? We already know that water alone can't stop his sand, and Guy can't reach him. So even if it is harder he can take the time he needs to pull up a massive amount of sand do drag Guy down to the bottom of the ocean. So in a sense, depending on how deep the bottom of the ocean is you aren't really safe from gaara near water.
accepted but gaara can't turn the ocean into desert like u said "gaara can change the terrain to his liking" it more like he can keep up in that kinda terrain,

ok and what about amegakure ?
 

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accepted but gaara can't turn the ocean into desert like u said "gaara can change the terrain to his liking" it more like he can keep up in that kinda terrain,

ok and what about amegakure ?
I'm not sure about amegakure. if it is a set in stone rule that gaara can't do anything to dry his sand then he's SOL like when he was fighting the guy I mentioned earlier. I'm just saying I wasn't sure if it was water that time either.
 

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I really feel that Gai is put at a disadvantage, but I wonder how much the gates would help out? I'm not sure if Gaara's sand could match up to that? We saw what the gates did to a body of water when he activated it against Kisame. Granted that is a lot different, but that's why I am skeptical to the effects that would occur with sand. But who knows.
 

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accepted but gaara can't turn the ocean into desert like u said "gaara can change the terrain to his liking" it more like he can keep up in that kinda terrain,

ok and what about amegakure ?
It would only be easier in Amegakure lol. He doesn't have to reach as far to dig the sand out. Amegakure is a city isn't it? Meaning it has to have a solid mass of land to lay on. Which in return means that Gaara can dig for the minerals he needs to make sand. If you can agree that Gaara could win in the ocean, why would you question about Amegakure. lol
 

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I'm not as far as you guys are but at the end of part 1 before Gaara was Kazekage I believe the guy with chakra absorbing armor got Gaara's sand wet and then he couldn't use it. Once again I'm not gonna search for the clip etc. but I think that's the case. But when watching that I wondered why Gaara could squeeze the water out....or turn his sand into glass wouldn't that be cool?! He might have fire nature idk...
That's interesting, if that's true then my entire argument about water not affecting gaaras sand is shattered lol I'll have to look it up.
 

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It would only be easier in Amegakure lol. He doesn't have to reach as far to dig the sand out. Amegakure is a city isn't it? Meaning it has to have a solid mass of land to lay on. Which in return means that Gaara can dig for the minerals he needs to make sand. If you can agree that Gaara could win in the ocean, why would you question about Amegakure. lol
nope i never agree that gaara will win in the ocean i say "he will keep up"

and also in amegakure its always raining and it will make gaara sand soft and heavier, and we all know even without that gaara sand speed is inferior with gai base speed, not to mention in gate mode gai will keep blitz gaara
 

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Ok I hate when people do this and give what if scenarios but I'm going to be a hypocrite this one time and do it.

I feel like we don't know enough about Guy. I used to say that Asuma was hella lame in fighting until I saw him do that smoke explosion w/e (i'm sure some nerd knows the name), but then he was still not strong enough and died....But what I'm getting at it that we know that Guy shows off with taijutsu mostly cos his ninja way is my make Lee pro. But, it is said that he is efficient with ninjutsu as well. We keep talking about the gates, but that isn't the only thing Guy knows how to do.
 
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