zetsu is being decieved by tobi?

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I'm sorry if some brought this up already, but I was just glancing through some chapters when I noticed something, take a look at a few pages first

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what do these pages show us? it shows that tobi and zetsu are close, and that they have been working together for quite sometime, and that zetsu even knows tobi's interest in sasuke.

alright and take a look at a few of these, I'll explain these later

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for now, look at these, but don't focus on the dialogue, it's something else I want to show

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and these, you can read the dialogue in these, and the first one here is the most important page

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this one is after the zetsu says that

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and FINALLY this

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alright, from the first pages we see, it shows us the secrets tobi and zetsu share together, it even shows that they have been working together for a long time to have made 100,000 white zetsus.

we then see that nagato didn't know the truth about itachi, but this was the supposed leader of akatsui, but tobi didn't tell him anything about itachi.

okay, we now see tobi talking to sasuke, we all know he tells sasuke that he helped itachi slaughter his clan and such, but my point is that zetsu is not in the room, yeah I know this was their private time, but I just want to still point out that fact.

alright, in the next pages, itachi tells sasuke that he's not the only one who took part in the massacre, but there's something important we're missing, he did all this in a genjutsu, as zetsu says, they haven't made a move. zetsu couldn't see anything.

later itachi further explains madara's involvement with him and his clan. it appears that itachi is again doing this in a genjutsu, it can be assumed by when itachi makes sasuke see things in the past and then starts talking crazy, after a while it is obvious it ended. did zetsu see any of this? it was never stated either way, BUT, because of the genjutsu that itachi put him in earlier, and zetsu couldn't see what was going on, it can be implied that he didn't see any of this either.

and the last part shows that zetsu definitely didn't know all about itachi, even ZETSU?! this is like tobi's main man, but he obviously kept him in the dark intentionally, zetsu didn't know the slightest thing about itachi, my point to this was that tobi has kept things from not only nagato but even zetsu.


the bigger picture is that zetsu doesn't know that tobi slaughtered the uchiha clan, how could he? there's no way, because if zetsu thinks that itachi murdered his clan and then joined akaktsui, which he does, because he didn't know the truth behind itachi, then it's very likely that he thinks itachi mmurdered his clan on his own, and then joined, since everyone who don't know the truth think this also.

and on that last part where itachi went crazy talking to sasuke, he NEVER brung up that madara helped him slaughter the clan, that was before when zetsu stated that they haven't moved an inch. this whole scene is the only evidence that zetsu may have known, but even this is cloudy, the only thing that's proven is that tobi didn't tell his main guy the truth about itachi.

so why is he deceiving tobi? if zetsu doesn't know about the massacre of the clan, what does this mean? remember edo madara may also not know, my point is that zetsu's loyalty may be with the real madara, even kabuto said that he's not sure if tobi is sticking to the real plan, and edo madara himself said he's not sure what tobi is planning.

sorry, I know that was REEEAL long, but what do you think?
 

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even before I read this theory I felt like giving u + REP>
 
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Tobi works hard to deceive everyone he possibly can. So what do you think your answer is?
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Now that I have read it I think that Tobi has been keeping secrets from Zetsu, I actually suspected this before but never made a thread into it.
 

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Nice theory! However I am not +reping you because you troll too much.
 

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Nice theory! However I am not +reping you because you troll too much.

me? :confused:

+ rep for first sane thread in naruto discussion sec I seen today

even before I read this theory I felt like giving u + REP>

thanks +rep back


Tobi works hard to deceive everyone he possibly can. So what do you think your answer is?

I know what my answer is, I was asking for the opinion of NB as well as to inform others about this
 
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That's way to much to read, but i get the idea and i think tobi is using everyone.
 

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Wouldn't exactly be hard for Tobi to deceive Zetsu. Since Zetsu doesn't really talk to anyone else, especially now a-days.
 

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me? :confused:



thanks +rep back




I know what my answer is, I was asking for the opinion of NB as well as to inform others about this
Yes you, you keep posting pics of a pedophile seal.
 

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what? you're either joking or have the wrong guy, lol

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Better theory:
It doesn't matter if Tobi deceives Zetsu, because Zetsu is his pet of sorts. Something about Zetsu just doesn't add up. We have no idea how he came to be, or where he came from. I'm hoping we find out one day, but it just seems that he's the one guy following Tobi blindly without asking any real questions.
 

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Zetsu is the last villain.
 

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Argghh I hate this, I just want to know the secret behind zetsu and tobi for that matter
 

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PSSS!
Better theory:
It doesn't matter if Tobi deceives Zetsu, because Zetsu is his pet of sorts. Something about Zetsu just doesn't add up. We have no idea how he came to be, or where he came from. I'm hoping we find out one day, but it just seems that he's the one guy following Tobi blindly without asking any real questions.


actually, it kinda does matter, because why is he deceiving him, if he is then it's something that he don't want him to know, and what is that something? see, that "something" may be important, but I do agree there is much more to zetsu, and that he's going to have a huge role in this madara/tobi/nagato business
 

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actually, it kinda does matter, because why is he deceiving him, if he is then it's something that he don't want him to know, and what is that something? see, that "something" may be important, but I do agree there is much more to zetsu, and that he's going to have a huge role in this madara/tobi/nagato business

Well even if Zetsu is more of a pet. Even pets have feelings, thoughts, and Zetsu would be more of a human pet. If Tobi's keeping anything from him, it would be why Zetsu made so many clones of him. Maybe the real reason behind it would piss Zetsu off?
 

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Well even if Zetsu is more of a pet. Even pets have feelings, thoughts, and Zetsu would be more of a human pet. If Tobi's keeping anything from him, it would be why Zetsu made so many clones of him. Maybe the real reason behind it would piss Zetsu off?

but it was already shown that he kept a secret from tobi by not telling him the real reason why itachi joined, zetsu watched that whole fight completely ignorant. and are you talking about those army of zetsu clones? the reason was already revealed, and they are basically gone now, so there can't be another reason behind it.
 
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