Gaara is Itachi's Worst Match Up(Read)

[~Uzumaki~]

and you picked two of the best sensors to date......

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i'm talking average sensors.....

any you are seriously gonna disregard shikkaku And ao's statement about itachi? yea....
outside of sensors range, they both know his capabilities[/COLOR][/QUOTE]

You're telling me that in a combination of the Five Great Nations, there's not a sensor equal to or greater than Karin's or Naruto's (in Sage Mode) sensory skills?

 

[Blaze Release]

A>B doesn't mean C>B. This isn't DBZ.

That isnt want i meant. Im saying that he has shown great feats, which suggests he will beat current gaara

 

[lanakau888]

agree, gaara is a pretty bad matchup for itachi especially if you put them in a desert.

and itachi has only used a water jutsu in the presence of a large body of water, and it was never stated or implied in the manga that water is gaara's weakness. In fact doton or earth element is suiton or water's weakness. The sand's only cannon weakness is oil.


But I still see a healthy itachi beating gaara even if they are in a desert, especially if madara's lvl2 susanoo can rip through gaara's mom and oonoki's golem defense.

 

[LolaxXx]

His Susanoo is visible, Sasuke just didn't see when he used it and Zetsu close his flytrap thing when Kirin was fired


The sand is coming from underneath Susanoo, he's not attacking Susanoo with sand here
His crows don't cast genjutsu unless he gouges out hus eye and implants in the middle of the battle then sends it but that can't happen and even if he miraculously does Gaara can crush birds with sand.


There's no brief opening, Gaara can sense incoming attacks with his sensor sand which found Muu


Underrating Gaara is what you're doing.

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Itachi's susanoo was not yet even visible yet he was still able to survive kirin.
according to your logic, Kimimaro who was able to break through gaara's sand is more powerful than amaterasu, Rocklees 5th gate is more powerful than amaterasu...cuz those broke his sand easily.
And...you need to understand the strengths of jutsu, if something is impacting gaara sand, Like the force of the sword, or the force of itachi's long range projectile, then it can smash through the sand, amaterasu is just a flame with no impact, so blocking amaterasu is easy, just put something in the way fast enough.

 

[kadowade]

Amaterasu was one of the reasons the atmosphere was heated so quickly. If you watched his fight with Itachi then you would know.

Yes it probably aided in heat, but the main source was from his Firestyle Technique.
Why would Sasuke come up with an technique that needed Amaterasu to accomplish it, when Sasuke never had an MS so that = No Amaterasu.

So his firestyle alone is enough to heat the atmosphere. Besides....if Sasuke had more chakra he would've just used MORE Dragon flames instead of just 3 thus heating the atmosphere quicker

 

[-Vegeta-]

That isnt want i meant. Im saying that he has shown great feats, which suggests he will beat current gaara

That's exactly like saying A>B so C>B. Also Gaara's feat of beating the 2nd mizukage trump all of hebi Sasuke's feats. Beating Deidara and a death bed Orochimaru isn't that great. Kankuro handled Deidara pretty easily. Oonoki also could of killed him pretty easily.

 

[LolaxXx]

Lmao why did you even mention kirin? That jutsu requires a ton of prep time and this Sasuke doesn't even have amaterasu to heat the atmosphere. Also Gaara's sand has obviously gotten stronger in part considering it blocked Deidara's bomb on the village and it blocked A's raiton kick so I doubt chidori's getting through his sand. Like I said though i'm not getting into another argument with you because you're constantly biased towards Sasuke and Itachi.



You need to learn to read before you quote someone else. I never said it could block any attack. I said it could block most of Sasuke's attacks. Also Gaara can fly so speed is irrelevant.

ITACHI VS GAARA. You wanna argue about gaara vs sasuke, make a thread

 

[Owarij]

and you picked two of the best sensors to date......

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i'm talking average sensors.....

any you are seriously gonna disregard shikkaku And ao's statement about itachi? yea....
outside of sensors range, they both know his capabilities[/COLOR]

You're telling me that in a combination of the Five Great Nations, there's not a sensor equal to or greater than Karin's or Naruto's (in Sage Mode) sensory skills?[/QUOTE]

karins mind kagura abilities is better than almost anyones sensory skills, and she was even praised by tobi.... sasuke also said her sensory is unlike anyone else

and idk what you're talking about sm mode, i knw his km mode sensed kisame...
need a link plz

 

[-Vegeta-]

ITACHI VS GAARA. You wanna argue about gaara vs sasuke, make a thread

I never asked you to quote me. If you want to whine about me talking about other characters then go whine about it to someone else.

 

[Blaze Release]

That's exactly like saying A>B so C>B. Also Gaara's feat of beating the 2nd mizukage trump all of hebi Sasuke's feats. Beating Deidara isn't that great. Kankuro handled him pretty easily. Oonoki also could of killed him pretty easily.

Nope that isnt what i mean. Its by no means A > B so A > C.

Btw you make it sound as if gaara fought the 2nd all by himself and we all know that isnt true.

You said beating deidora isnt that great, yet the character you back for whatever reason not only lost to deidora, he flew him above his village for everybody to see on a clay bird

 

[lanakau888]

Yes it probably aided in heat, but the main source was from his Firestyle Technique.
Why would Sasuke come up with an technique that needed Amaterasu to accomplish it, when Sasuke never had an MS so that = No Amaterasu.

So his firestyle alone is enough to heat the atmosphere. Besides....if Sasuke had more chakra he would've just used MORE Dragon flames instead of just 3 thus heating the atmosphere quicker

Yep, kirin could most likely be performed with just katons, but would have been waay weaker than the one sasuke used on itachi.

 

[Hellsbadass]

You're telling me that in a combination of the Five Great Nations, there's not a sensor equal to or greater than Karin's or Naruto's (in Sage Mode) sensory skills?

dude seriously wtf
are you telling me karin is a great sensor? are you some kind of retard fan boy?

karin's sensor skills sucks big time

the greatest sensors in the five nations are naruto (with the help of sage mode) and muu

but i am not sure if muu counts since he is dead.... kinda....he is back from the grave...

 

[-Vegeta-]

Nope that isnt what i mean. Its by no means A > B so A > C.

Btw you make it sound as if gaara fought the 2nd all by himself and we all know that isnt true.

You said beating deidora isnt that great, yet the character you back for whatever reason not only beat gaara flew him above his village for everybody to see on a clay bird

And Gaara had to worry about protecting the village while fighting Deidara. Who else helped Gaara? Oonoki almost got one shotted and had to be saved by Gaara. The fodders did nothing but die.

 

[LolaxXx]

I never asked you to quote me. If you want to whine about me talking about other characters then go whine about it to someone else.

ur the only one here being whiny and snappy. "Ohhh, stop quoting me me, oohh." its a thread on a forum, get used to it. stop spamming the thread son

Anyway. itach beats gaara for obvious reasons

 

[~Uzumaki~]

Okay, tell me how gaara will defeat Itachi...because the only argument im seeing here is...
"Gaara will pull Itachi out of the susanoo because he did to Madara.."

Laughable. what those people continually fail to realize is, that wasnt accomplished by himself. He had the help of Oonoki and Naruto, plus many other fodder as distractions. One on one, madara would've easily avoided that. So 1v1 itachi VS Gaara, there almost no chance of that actually happening. also, if sasuke's incomplete susanoo can block darui, kankuro,temari, and gaara's attacks just by appearing, Itachi's susanoo doesnt need the shield for this, and Itachi can still move while susanoo is activated as seen when he cut off nagato's arm and quickly rescusd bee and naruto. The sword can cut gaara's sand. and a BIG enough amaterasu, which Itachi has shown able to do will engulf gaara entirely. The crows to cast long range genjutsu will be effective too seing as one look at them and your done. Gaara's sand is linear and itachi can aviod it easily. i cant believe some people have decided to start overrating gaara so much that they are now saying he can beat Itachi, who is by far on another level.

The sand was heavy so Onoki made it lighter. Onoki reduced the strain on Gaara in doing that, Gaara can do it on his own but it would be more strenous. Are you trying to say Gaara can't manipulate sand of that small quantity he used to pull Madara out?

Itachi has no long range genjutsu. The crows Naruto saw when he was in the genjutsu were part of the genjutsu which is why Itachi said 'you're already in my genjutsu' his crows can't cast illusions unless he gouges out their eyes and put his own

Gaara's sand isn't linear. it was never mentioned that it was restricted to moving in a straight lines, he can bend it and change direction, he even made an image of his mom with it.

Gaara will block Amaterasu like he did before, he can ride his extremely quick sand to avoid Totsuka. If the Amaterasu is big, he can just support it with more sand and he'll get Itachi before the Amaterasu can burn through it.

 

[Blaze Release]

And Gaara was fighting at a disadvantage while fighting Deidara. Who else helped Gaara? Oonoki almost got one shotted and had to be saved by Gaara. The fodder did nothing and all they were useful for was for dying.

We all know that deidora was at an even greater disadvantage. Im not going to repeat myself.

Whatever the case gaara didnt beat him by himself. Lets not forget the gold dust his dad left behind.

Anyway we never seem to agree on most things, therefore its usually to agree to disagree with you :shrug:

 

[-Vegeta-]

ur the only one here being whiny and snappy. "Ohhh, stop quoting me me, oohh." its a thread on a forum, get used to it. stop spamming the thread son

Anyway. itach beats gaara for obvious reasons

I'm whining lol? You're the one who's sitting here complaining about me talking about other characters. If you don't like it then leave. You don't have to read my comments. Remember you started this argument with me.

 

[kadowade]

Itachi has no long range genjutsu. The crows Naruto saw when he was in the genjutsu were part of the genjutsu which is why Itachi said 'you're already in my genjutsu' his crows can't cast illusions unless he gouges out their eyes and put his own

Nah bro, Itachi said "you're already trapped in my Genjutsu, once Naruto was floating in the Air. Naruto was NOT in the Genjutsu while he was running towards Itachi. Itachi used the eye from the crows to cast the Genjutsu.

 

[LolaxXx]

The sand was heavy so Onoki made it lighter. Onoki reduced the strain on Gaara in doing that, Gaara can do it on his own but it would be more strenous. Are you trying to say Gaara can't manipulate sand of that small quantity he used to pull Madara out?

Itachi has no long range genjutsu. The crows Naruto saw when he was in the genjutsu were part of the genjutsu which is why Itachi said 'you're already in my genjutsu' his crows can't cast illusions unless he gouges out their eyes and put his own

Gaara's sand isn't linear. it was never mentioned that it was restricted to moving in a straight lines, he can bend it and change direction, he even made an image of his mom with it.

Gaara will block Amaterasu like he did before, he can ride his extremely quick sand to avoid Totsuka. If the Amaterasu is big, he can just support it with more sand and he'll get Itachi before the Amaterasu can burn through it.

Its stated in the manga he has long range justsu, so Im not gonna say anyhting about that. As for the crows, thats speculation, but then again, that speculation could go both ways. Flying on his sand is cool and all, but he still needs to be in range to attack, which itachi can easily get to. Flying dosent make you the winner, just look at what happened to deidara, Muu, Oonoki. and even gaara himself

 

[-Vegeta-]

We all know that deidora was at an even greater disadvantage. Im not going to repeat myself.

Whatever the case gaara didnt beat him by himself. Lets not forget the gold dust his dad left behind.

Anyway we never seem to agree on most things, therefore its usually to agree to disagree with you :shrug:

Gold sand is no different than regular sand other then it's heavier. Gaara practically did beat the 2nd by himself. Gaara was the only one who could fight him and did fight him. What did Oonoki do? Almost get one shotted and had to be saved by Gaara. So please tell me who else helped him? When you can tell me i'll change my mind.