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I think these people pose a great challenge to Itachi and can win a battle against him:
1) Minato
2) Hashirama Senju
3) Madara
4) Hiruzen Sarutobi
5) Sasuke (EMS-Susano-Amaterasu)
6) Tobi (Rinnegan - Six Paths)
7) Kisame
8) Muu
9) Naruto (KM and SM)
10) Third Raikage
11) Tobirama Senju
12) Yes, oh yes, the one and only, the infamous rival.. NAGATO

Please discuss, yes I may be wrong, but please explain why one of these shinobi has no (or almost none) chances of winning against Itachi, don'y just be a fanboy. Thank you.

I left SO6P out of the list for obvious reasons.
Every high level ninja has some chance against every other high level ninja.

However there are many people that just don't have the skill sets necessary to fight evenly with Itachi. You need someone with a strong defense against genjutsu (it is obvious why), extreme speed (to dodge Amaterasu or to deal with Itachi's insane speed), high chakra levels(to try and outlast him), and intelligence(again, the reasons why are obvious).

Once you have someone with all of those attributes, that person has a better chance of beating Itachi.

I will go down your list and see who I agree with.


1) Minato - I believe that the only way Minato can win this, is if he has some sort of defense against Tsukuyomi. Minato always talks to his opponents just like Naruto and would be susceptible to this. Other than that I think he has a strong chance of beating Itachi.

2) Hashirama Senju - We don't know all that much about Hashi, but he has no real defense against Tsukuyomi (only two people really do), and he also is not very fast, and I personally don't see a defense for Amaterasu. His Mokuton would all burn. His only chance is to stay as far away as he can from Itachi and spam Mokuton.

3) Madara Current or EMS? Current Madara, yes, not easily but not with too much difficulty either. EMS Madara almost assuredly not. The difference between EMS Madara and Itachi is that Madara has more chakra, however Itachi's Susanoo has the Yata mirror and the Totsuka sword, not to mention Itachi is likely more skilled in genjutsu.

4) Hiruzen SarutobiTo be honest I just don't see anyway that Hiruzen can win this. By hype sure, but there are so few skilled genjutsu users that I don't think Hiruzen has come up against anyone of Itachi's caliber. Hiruzen also has no defense against Amaterasu, and no way to deal with Susanoo and the Totsuka sword. If Enma tries to block it he gets sealed. They both have fire, but Hiruzen has the elemental advantage of earth vs. water. Also I think speed would likely go to Itachi.

5) Sasuke (EMS-Susano-Amaterasu) Well Sasuke's EMS is entirely dependent on Itachi being blind, so yeah Sasuke wins against a blind Itachi. Otherwise no.

6) Tobi (Rinnegan - Six Paths) Tobi wins. Undisputed, the tailed beasts might get wiped out from the Totsuka sword but Itachi can't deal with Tobi + them.

7) Kisame Now here is an underdog that I actually think has a stronger chance than most would believe. The only reason is Samehada though. With it he is immune to most of Itachi's genjutsu (not Tsukuyomi), and can nullify most of Itachi's chakra based ninjutsu. However Samehada has shown that it can only absorb so much chakra at a time, and it doesn't really absorb fire well. (Itachi vs. Bee fight) So Itachi's win would have to come through Susanoo or Amaterasu. So I think Itachi still has the advantage, but Kisame has a chance.

8) Muu Dust release would be useless on Susanoo because of the Yata mirror, so Muu would have to become invisible to try and have a chance against Itachi. I'm not sure who would win from there, because it hasn't been shown that Muu has a defense against genjutsu, and seeing as he was killed by a genjutsu user it stands to reason that Itachi would win.

9) Naruto (KM and SM) SM Naruto loses due to limited clones and no defense against genjutsu. KM Naruto's only chance is to use KM clones so that genjutsu doesn't work on them. However this is only until the fox works with Naruto, in which case only Tsukuyomi would work, and Naruto knows about that already.

10) Third Raikage This one goes to Itachi every time. The raikages are known for brawn, not brains, and have no defense against any level of Itachi's genjutsu, especially Tsukuyomi. So that is an autowin for Itachi, but also he has Amaterasu and Susanoo. Amaterasu might not hurt the third raikage at first but it won't stop burning until he is ashes so it will outlast his shield. The Yata mirror is immune to any and all elements so his raiton armor attacks would be useless. However these points are all moot as he loses with genjutsu.

11) Tobirama SenjuI don't even want to write about this one as we know so little about Tobirama. From what we have seen in his fight against Hiruzen though it goes to Itachi, but we just don't know.

12) Yes, oh yes, the one and only, the infamous rival.. NAGATO
I could write a paper on this one, but I will keep it a few lines. If it is just Nagato I can see Itachi winning due to Susanoo and his genjutsu. No one is immune to genjutsu, they are always trapped in it, it just depends on their ability to break it. Very few people have the ability to break out of even Itachi's regular genjutsu. Coupled with the Totsuka sword that is all that Itachi needs.

However if Nagato has his paths, then Itachi has no feasible way of winning as his genjutsu wouldn't work since while he may trap a path in genjutsu, it is visual genjutsu and the shared field of vision would let Nagato know that one of his paths is under genjutsu.


Well now that I have written all of that I want to make it crystal clear that any of these people have chances against any of the others. I also want to point out that Itachi has started literally every battle off with genjutsu. I mention it in every response because he has used it literally every time with good results. Only Sasuke and Bee have gotten out, Sasuke because Itachi release the last genjutsu against him and Bee because of Samehada.

EDIT: For the Nagato response I meant to put genjutsu and the Totsuka sword is all the opening that Itachi needs. If he can prevent Nagato from attacking for even a few seconds he can seal him in the Totsuka sword. Actually he can do this to anyone, but some people who can break genjutsu fast enough, and are extremely fast themselves might be able to dodge. Just think about it though before you dismiss that idea. It makes sense.
 
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If itachi uses tsukoyomi, he'd better be damn sure that it finishes his opponent, cuz we all seen how much of a toll it takes on him, same with amaterasu and suasnoo. People say, "Itachi can just use tsukoymi, or amaterasu, or susanoo." Ignoring the fact that each and everytime he's used it, it drained him of alot of chakra, so depending on who he fights, he will lose.
 

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If itachi uses tsukoyomi, he'd better be damn sure that it finishes his opponent, cuz we all seen how much of a toll it takes on him, same with amaterasu and suasnoo. People say, "Itachi can just use tsukoymi, or amaterasu, or susanoo." Ignoring the fact that each and everytime he's used it, it drained him of alot of chakra, so depending on who he fights, he will lose.
I might be mistaken, but when Itachi was dying of disease, and was supposed to be dead, he pulled off two or three Amaterasus, Tsukuyomi, and had Susanoo up.

It takes a toll but more on his eyesight than his chakra. Sasuke never complained about being drained of chakra, he complained about the pain of keeping Susanoo up, though that also could have been because of Mei's acid mist.
 

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Wait so are you saying none of the people I mentioned have any chances against Itachi? No Minato? No Madara? No Hashirama? No Hiruzen? No Tobi?
Trust me there's alot of over hyped people in the manga but Itachi & Minato aren't they are the hype if you ask me. The way Itachi carries himself and over comes the most diffucult task there's no way you can put it in words seriously, the guy is unbelievable


Kushina told naruto during the Madara & Hashirama battle that the 1st took control of the Kyuubi, now here is were the translation is unclear to me Mito Uzumaki sealed the Nine tail fox becoming the first 9 Tails Jinchūriki to better Aid Hashirama??? Is that during the fight with Madara or after???If it was during the fight i think they both ganged up on madara 2-1 giving the 1st the win.

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If they did both team up on Madara i don't think it was a 1 on 1 battle fair fight kushina stated that Mito was a strong female ninja on top of that born with particularlly strong chakra able to surpress the Kyuubi.

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Minato did mention that Madara wasn't able to keep the kyuubi control for a long time

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When Madara tryed summoning the Kyuubi he tolded naruto that he'd lend him his chakra to rather not be captured and be controlled by Madara again.

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So this is my theory about the Hashirama I think he's strong no doubt about it if he can go heads up with the uchiha clan but I think his fight with Madara was kind of over hyped if you ask me.This what i think what happen Madara & Hashirama were going at it Madara got frustrated and summoned the Nine tails but Hashirama was still putting up a fight. Mito arrives at the valley of end while Madara wasn't able to keep the kyuubi under control much longer so the kyuubi was
A. Took under control by the 1st hokage sealed into Mito and help Hashirama win the fight.

B. Kyuubi was no longer under control knowing that he hated Madara he team up with Hashirama to fight Madara then got duke and sealed after.

C. Kyuubi was no longer under control under madara then was take over by the Hashirama during the fight

So i'm going with Itachi






Itachi knew about Minato and kushina and said the reason he became hokage was because of people of her and others I find that crazy because Itachi was 5 years old at the time when the night the kyuubi attacked the village so how would he know? Lets no forget Minato did state that the reason he did become Hokage was because of Kushina

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As Itachi stated and Out of Minato own mouth Kushina did help him become Hokage

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Even minato strongest sealing techinque kills him along with the person he is sealing while Itachi's doesn't

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So lets compare the two Susanoo makes a good denfence just like minato Space time barrier I'd say minato space time barrier is a slight better because there's no side effects.Best sealing techique i'd have to go with itachi the Sword of Totsuka has no side effects while the dead demon seal takes yours and the sealers life away double edge means tie winning is better.When it comes to speed minato has it but Itachi's stealth is way better.

Over all i'm going with Itachi





The 3rd Hokage admitting that he can't beat Orochimaru But Itachi was easily able to defeat Orochimaru with a simple genjutsu the first time and Second time with the sword of Totsuka

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Hiruzen giving off hints that the Minato is in deed stronger then him If i don't believe that Minato can't take out Itachi I surely don't expect Hiruzen to be able to

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Well I would give more explain but i'm to tired so yeah
 

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Trust me there's alot of over hyped people in the manga but Itachi & Minato aren't they are the hype if you ask me. The way Itachi carries himself and over comes the most diffucult task there's no way you can put it in words seriously, the guy is unbelievable


Kushina told naruto during the Madara & Hashirama battle that the 1st took control of the Kyuubi, now here is were the translation is unclear to me Mito Uzumaki sealed the Nine tail fox becoming the first 9 Tails Jinchūriki to better Aid Hashirama??? Is that during the fight with Madara or after???If it was during the fight i think they both ganged up on madara 2-1 giving the 1st the win.

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If they did both team up on Madara i don't think it was a 1 on 1 battle fair fight kushina stated that Mito was a strong female ninja on top of that born with particularlly strong chakra able to surpress the Kyuubi.

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Minato did mention that Madara wasn't able to keep the kyuubi control for a long time

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When Madara tryed summoning the Kyuubi he tolded naruto that he'd lend him his chakra to rather not be captured and be controlled by Madara again.

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So this is my theory about the Hashirama I think he's strong no doubt about it if he can go heads up with the uchiha clan but I think his fight with Madara was kind of over hyped if you ask me.This what i think what happen Madara & Hashirama were going at it Madara got frustrated and summoned the Nine tails but Hashirama was still putting up a fight. Mito arrives at the valley of end while Madara wasn't able to keep the kyuubi under control much longer so the kyuubi was
A. Took under control by the 1st hokage sealed into Mito and help Hashirama win the fight.

B. Kyuubi was no longer under control knowing that he hated Madara he team up with Hashirama to fight Madara then got duke and sealed after.

C. Kyuubi was no longer under control under madara then was take over by the Hashirama during the fight

So i'm going with Itachi






Itachi knew about Minato and kushina and said the reason he became hokage was because of people of her and others I find that crazy because Itachi was 5 years old at the time when the night the kyuubi attacked the village so how would he know? Lets no forget Minato did state that the reason he did become Hokage was because of Kushina

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As Itachi stated and Out of Minato own mouth Kushina did help him become Hokage

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Even minato strongest sealing techinque kills him along with the person he is sealing while Itachi's doesn't

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So lets compare the two Susanoo makes a good denfence just like minato Space time barrier I'd say minato space time barrier is a slight better because there's no side effects.Best sealing techique i'd have to go with itachi the Sword of Totsuka has no side effects while the dead demon seal takes yours and the sealers life away double edge means tie winning is better.When it comes to speed minato has it but Itachi's stealth is way better.

Over all i'm going with Itachi





The 3rd Hokage admitting that he can't beat Orochimaru But Itachi was easily able to defeat Orochimaru with a simple genjutsu the first time and Second time with the sword of Totsuka

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Hiruzen giving off hints that the Minato is in deed stronger then him If i don't believe that Minato can't take out Itachi I surely don't expect Hiruzen to be able to

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Well I would give more explain but i'm to tired so yeah
First off when they were talking about Minato needing them to be Hokage, it wasn't that they were talking about he needed them in every fight. It was that he needed them emotionally, he needed support in himself and his beliefs.

That is the same advice Minato gave A in regards to Killer Bee as a jinchurikki. Minato didn't need them to be strong, that is kind of retarded.

Emotional growth and support, that is what they meant. Have you never heard someone say "You made me into the man I am today" ? Same thing, not that they need them all the time, just that they helped shaped who they were.
 

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I might be mistaken, but when Itachi was dying of disease, and was supposed to be dead, he pulled off two or three Amaterasus, Tsukuyomi, and had Susanoo up.

It takes a toll but more on his eyesight than his chakra. Sasuke never complained about being drained of chakra, he complained about the pain of keeping Susanoo up, though that also could have been because of Mei's acid mist.
either way, it drains him of whatever it may be, Kisame even pointed it out that using it multiple times is bad for him
 

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kisame and 3rd raikage will lose against itachi

the rest is good
I made some arguments up above on most of the people. I would like you to counter my points. It will give me a chance to go into detail and debate about it.

I only think that 4 of those people have a better chance of winning than Itachi does against them, and 3 of those are conditional.
 

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minato yessssssssssssss
kisame nooooooooooo!!!!!
others yes!!
minato beats itachi coz itachi himself calls minato somthin like a legendary figure...
 
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I think these people pose a great challenge to Itachi and can win a battle against him:
1) Minato
2) Hashirama Senju
3) Madara
4) Hiruzen Sarutobi
5) Sasuke (EMS-Susano-Amaterasu)
6) Tobi (Rinnegan - Six Paths)
7) Kisame
8) Muu
9) Naruto (KM and SM)
10) Third Raikage
11) Tobirama Senju
12) Yes, oh yes, the one and only, the infamous rival.. NAGATO

Please discuss, yes I may be wrong, but please explain why one of these shinobi has no (or almost none) chances of winning against Itachi, don't just be a fanboy. Thank you.

I left SO6P out of the list for obvious reasons.

Sasori is a likely candidate as well.

Your most of the candidates are total fail. :flaw:


1) Minato-Already a hot debate on this forum, and always proved that itachi wins. Itachi only because of genjutsu and MS techniques.
2) Hashirama Senju-Yes, probably, and since we didn't know his real power, i will say he can as he defeated madara.
3) Madara-Yes, because of his EMS and rinnegan.
4) Hiruzen Sarutobi-Probably yes, because he was the strongest hokage and has the most experience.
5) Sasuke (EMS-Susano-Amaterasu)-No, he is far away from itachi's level and intelligence and power.
6) Tobi (Rinnegan - Six Paths)-Yes, due to rinnegan and sharingan.
7) Kisame-Nooooooo, why the heck you put such a weak candidate?:flaw: Kisame himself stated that itachi is more powerful than him.
8) Muu-Probably not, i didn't see how he is gonna fight MS techniques and genjutsu.
9) Naruto (KM and SM)-Totally NOT. fool people didn't understand this. Naruto is too dumb to counter itachi's regular genjutsu, and got totally raped. He is gonna defeat itachi? O.O
10) Third Raikage-No, he is just a outraged, hot headed and powerful. No counter to itachi's intelligence and genjutsu.
11) Tobirama Senju-Probably yes, or no, we didn't know his real power.
12) Yes, oh yes, the one and only, the infamous rival..NAGATO-:flaw::flaw::flaw: And this is your biggest fail. This is also proved many times, nagato cannot defeat itachi. Ok, i agree that he cannot be defeated quickly as he did recently. but he cannot defeat itachi's intelligence, and other power.
 

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I think these people pose a great challenge to Itachi and can win a battle against him:
1) Minato- Maybe, but Minato can't get past Yata Mirror, and Itachi can't hit Minato with Totsuka. Really, could go both ways
2) Hashirama Senju- By hype, yes. By feats, Itachi
3) Madara- Yes.
4) Hiruzen Sarutobi- No, but could prove a challenge for Itachi if the legend of his prime is true
5) Sasuke (EMS-Susano-Amaterasu)- Nah, Sasuke has no brains. Too emo to think logically against Itachi.
6) Tobi (Rinnegan - Six Paths)- Yes. The six paths will lose but not Tobi.
7) Kisame- No. Kisame acknowledged Itachi as the stronger one
8) Muu- Maybe, but most likely No.
9) Naruto (KM and SM)- Yes, if Naruto doesn't make dumb mistakes.
10) Third Raikage- No.
11) Tobirama Senju- NO. Cant dodge the Totsuka.
12) Yes, oh yes, the one and only, the infamous rival.. NAGATO Maybe, but its debatable whether Yasaka's no Magatama can defeat Chibaku Tensei. If it can, then Itachi, if it cant, Nagato
 

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First off when they were talking about Minato needing them to be Hokage, it wasn't that they were talking about he needed them in every fight. It was that he needed them emotionally, he needed support in himself and his beliefs.

That is the same advice Minato gave A in regards to Killer Bee as a jinchurikki. Minato didn't need them to be strong, that is kind of retarded.

Emotional growth and support, that is what they meant. Have you never heard someone say "You made me into the man I am today" ? Same thing, not that they need them all the time, just that they helped shaped who they were.
That's what I meant bro :cool: what did you think I was talking about???
 

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1. 2nd mizukage (genjutsu affinity, clam and hydrification technique to phase through itachis attacks)
2. tobi obviously
3. madara
4. sage and his sons
5. hashirama senju (if he beat madara, he must have a counter to itachis techniques)
6. killa bee (immune to genjutsu and can seal stuff)
7. shisui (strongest genjutsu ever)
8. minato namikaze
9. kabuto yakushi
10. tobirama senju or kakashi (kamui warps itachi away at the outset).
11. nagato due to chibaku tensei. only reason good guys beat him is teamwork.
12. muu and onoki

NO. Cant dodge the Totsuka.
space time ninjutsu as good as minato's much?

No, he is just a outraged, hot headed
proof? for all you know he was smart.

Probably not, i didn't see how he is gonna fight MS techniques and genjutsu.
eye techniques only work when you can see your opponent. muu hides in the sky and nukes itachi from above with jinton surprise attack.
 
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1. 2nd mizukage (genjutsu affinity, clam and hydrification technique to phase through itachis attacks)
2. tobi obviously
3. madara
4. sage and his sons
5. hashirama senju (if he beat madara, he must have a counter to itachis techniques)
6. killa bee (immune to genjutsu and can seal stuff)
7. shisui (strongest genjutsu ever)
8. minato namikaze
9. kabuto yakushi
10. tobirama senju or kakashi (kamui warps itachi away at the outset).
11. nagato due to chibaku tensei. only reason good guys beat him is teamwork.
12. muu and onoki

space time ninjutsu as good as minato's much?

proof? for all you know he was smart.

eye techniques only work when you can see your opponent. muu hides in the sky and nukes itachi from above with jinton surprise attack.
Didn't Kakashi and Shishiu already get defeated by Itachi?
 

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I think these people pose a great challenge to Itachi and can win a battle against him:
1) Minato
2) Hashirama Senju
3) Madara
4) Hiruzen Sarutobi
5) Sasuke (EMS-Susano-Amaterasu)
6) Tobi (Rinnegan - Six Paths)
7) Kisame
8) Muu
9) Naruto (KM and SM)
10) Third Raikage
11) Tobirama Senju
12) Yes, oh yes, the one and only, the infamous rival.. NAGATO

Please discuss, yes I may be wrong, but please explain why one of these shinobi has no (or almost none) chances of winning against Itachi, don't just be a fanboy. Thank you.

I left SO6P out of the list for obvious reasons.

Sasori is a likely candidate as well.
Minato- Most likely yes
Hashirama- Yes
Madara- Yes
Hiruzen- By hype yes
Sasuke- Probably now that he has ems
Tobi- Yes
Kisame- No
Muu- Yes
Naruto- Close but I don't think so
3rd Raikage- No
Tobirama- It depends if he used edo tensei or not
Nagato- Yes
 

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All of them can beat itachi because all of them are exceptional ninja's. Saying that the only clear cut people who would win is tobi, nagato and madara.

Others that can win are;
Ems sasuke
Hashirama
 
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