What is uchiha genjutsu/other genjutsu limitation

[Uchicha Macho]

I just want to know because i know uchiha genjutsu suppose to be stronger than regular genjutsu.
The only disadvantage of uchiha genjutsu is if the oponent have tail beast also in him/her can break out of the genjutsu
However i not sure if tsukuyomi suppose to be 100% successful against tail beast user


So what is Uchiha genjutsu limitations?

 

[-S-]

i dont think there are limitations to uchiha genjutsu, i just think it is how skilled you are at using it like itachi

 

[Tarheel09]

probably what you just said about the tailed beasts along with they can't affect another person as well with a sharingan, they more than likely can't do anything against the rinnegan either so these three things are probably there limitations.

 

[Uchicha Macho]

i dont think there are limitations to uchiha genjutsu, i just think it is how skilled you are at using it like itachi

cool thank + rep

 

[ShinobiX]

Only Jinchuriki's can break them, or other Sharingan users. Not sure though, might be wrong.

 

[Owarij]

Uchiha regularl genjutsu are the exact same thing as regular genjutsu's, they are not stronger


Uchiha mangekyou genjutsu's like tsukyomi are special

Sasuke's tsukyomi , is breakable by a outside source ( another ninja disrupting your chakra flow, Bijuu disrupting your chakra flow)

Itachi's tsukyomi cannot be canceled , It can only be broken by a uchiha

 

[Hei]

well i'm not sure but tailed beasts maybe can help to get out from genjutsu(but not from tsukuyomi)

 

[SoulHunt3r]

Uchiha regularl genjutsu are the exact same thing as regular genjutsu's, they are not stronger


Uchiha mangekyou genjutsu's like tsukyomi are special

Sasuke's tsukyomi , is breakable by a outside source ( another ninja disrupting your chakra flow, Bijuu disrupting your chakra flow)

Itachi's tsukyomi cannot be canceled , It can only be broken by a uchiha

agree but sasuke after 3 years will be stronger than itachi and even than madara

 

[Uchicha Macho]

Uchiha regularl genjutsu are the exact same thing as regular genjutsu's, they are not stronger


Uchiha mangekyou genjutsu's like tsukyomi are special

Sasuke's tsukyomi , is breakable by a outside source ( another ninja disrupting your chakra flow, Bijuu disrupting your chakra flow)

Itachi's tsukyomi cannot be canceled , It can only be broken by a uchiha

ok rep also

 

[ShinobiX]

Uchiha regularl genjutsu are the exact same thing as regular genjutsu's, they are not stronger


Uchiha mangekyou genjutsu's like tsukyomi are special

Sasuke's tsukyomi , is breakable by a outside source ( another ninja disrupting your chakra flow, Bijuu disrupting your chakra flow)

Itachi's tsukyomi cannot be canceled , It can only be broken by a uchiha

O.O Is that part about Itachi's tsukyomi a fact? as in stated in the manga? If so Itachi is more powerfull than I thought, I only thought of him as superpowerfull because of his Susanoo has Yata Mirror and Totsuka Sword xd

well i'm not sure but tailed beasts maybe can help to get out from genjutsu(but not from tsukuyomi)

Bee broke out of Sasuke's tsukuyomi with his tailed beast disrupting his chakra... I think.

 

[Owarij]

O.O Is that part about Itachi's tsukyomi a fact? as in stated in the manga? If so Itachi is more powerfull than I thought, I only thought of him as superpowerfull because of his Susanoo has Yata Mirror and Totsuka Sword xd



Bee broke out of Sasuke's tsukuyomi with his tailed beast disrupting his chakra... I think.

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As danzo,itachi and kakashi said, Itachi's tsukyomi controlled Space and time, He literally could make any amount of time happen in tsukyomi world, but only 1 second pasts irl, His tsukyomi happens instantly, There cannot be any side effects, If you go back to Kakashi vs itachi part 1, he said the same thing, it happened in 1 second, Asuma said itachi was still talking and kakashi had already collapsed, Noone can break you out of it, because it happens too fast

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As danzo said the difference between itachi and sasuke's tsukyomi is incomparable, like the earth to the sky

Yup of all his jutsu the thing to fear most is his tsukyomi, it's essentialy a 1 hit ko, As you see in that scan, he spared kakashi's life with only 3 days, and now we know why he spared his life (its been revealed in the manga) , 3 days knocked kakashi unconscious for 2 weeks, and needed to find tsunade (who is the only person who can heal psychological damage) to get him out of it

 

[FloriGlori]

It's obvious that Sharingan based Genjutsu are way superior to 'regular' ilussions. Their effects practically don't have a limit - they can paralyze enemies, make them unconscious or fall asleep, scare them and even controll them, torture them and totally destroy their psyche, or simply trick them.

For what we know their limit of effectiveness is another Sharingan, a Jinchuuriki or a small group of people who can get each others out of Genjutsu. Though even those methods aren't sure to always work, for example when it comes to Koto Amatsukami or Itachi's Tsukuyomi, the most powerful Genjutsu there are.

 

[Psychosocial]

agree but sasuke after 3 years will be stronger than itachi and even than madara

I doubt that !!

and just to be sure When u Say madara do you actually mean madara or are u referring to tobi ?

 

[ShinobiX]

As danzo said the difference between itachi and sasuke's tsukyomi is incomparable, like the earth to the sky

I think I missed this or don't remember it, what chapter was it?

But how do we know that a Jinchuriki disrupting or switching chakra's with the target that is under Itachi's Tsukyomi wouldn't be released?

That comment Kakashi made was about the normal way to disrupt Genjutsu, wasn't it?

 

[Owarij]

I think I missed this or don't remember it, what chapter was it?

But how do we know that a Jinchuriki disrupting or switching chakra's with the target that is under Itachi's Tsukyomi wouldn't be released?

That comment Kakashi made was about the normal way to disrupt Genjutsu, wasn't it?

The comment kakashi made is exactly what the bijuu did, Another person disrupting the chakra of someone to get them out of the genjutsu , The bijuu won't have time to end the genjutsu, because as soon as bee looks at his eyes its already done,,,,,,When sasuke hit bee with tsukyomi , he was in the genjutsu for a few seconds , then he came out and lariated sasuke, An instantaneous amount of time is needed for tsukyomi, there is no time to end it


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[Chief Toad]

O.O Is that part about Itachi's tsukyomi a fact? as in stated in the manga? If so Itachi is more powerfull than I thought, I only thought of him as superpowerfull because of his Susanoo has Yata Mirror and Totsuka Sword xd



Bee broke out of Sasuke's tsukuyomi with his tailed beast disrupting his chakra... I think.

Such a powerful technique is not without its disadvantages however. Due to the complexity of the illusion and the quickness with which it is executed, an enormous amount of chakra is necessary and an added amount of stress is placed on the left eye, leaving Itachi's vision more blurred. Before using it on Kakashi in Part I, Itachi stated that Tsukuyomi can only be broken by a Sharingan user that shares the same blood as him; as demonstrated when Sasuke overcame Itachi's Tsukuyomi in their battle.[3] Sasuke can also perform Tsukuyomi with his right eye, though his illusion is considered inferior to Itachi's Tsukuyomi since it does not alter the opponent's perception of time indicating he has yet to master it.

 

[ShinobiX]

The comment kakashi made is exactly what the bijuu did, Another person disrupting the chakra of someone to get them out of the genjutsu , The bijuu won't have time to end the genjutsu, because as soon as bee looks at his eyes its already done,,,,,,When sasuke hit bee with tsukyomi , he was in the genjutsu for a few seconds , then he came out and lariated sasuke, An instantaneous amount of time is needed for tsukyomi, there is no time to end it


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THANKS ALLOT for that page, Itachi <3

However, I still doubt that Itachi's Tsukyomi is unbreakable unless you are an uchiha/have the sharinga.

When sasuke hit bee with tsukyomi , he was in the genjutsu for a few seconds , then he came out and lariated sasuke,

So what happend here? Did Sasuke end the Tsukyomi on purposs? Did it end without him realizing because he is not skilled at using it? or did Bee break his Tsukyomi by making the tailed beast disrupt his chakra? If the last scenario is the case, you are saying that bee can't do that vs a Tsukyomi from Itachi because Itachi's Tsukyomi is super powerful?

 

[NarutoKage2]

I just want to know because i know uchiha genjutsu suppose to be stronger than regular genjutsu.
The only disadvantage of uchiha genjutsu is if the oponent have tail beast also in him/her can break out of the genjutsu
However i not sure if tsukuyomi suppose to be 100% successful against tail beast user


So what is Uchiha genjutsu limitations?

Good thread for once, Macho. Uchiha genjutsu is arguably the strongest known to exist. Koto amatsukomi is probably the only illusion that cannot be broken(my guess) as we saw Sasuke overcome Itachi's tsukuyomi. But then again, it might have been because Itachi was playing nice against his kid brother.

 

[Allan Hoshigaki]

there is limiations in some uchihas like sasuke short genjutsu but its not the limitation that matters cuz the sharingan can see thru genjutsu so it doesnt matter they are the best users in genjutsu

 

[Uchiha Gohan]

.........A logical and non-fanboy post?

Who are you and where is the real Macho? :izuna:



Anyways I don't believe there is a clan limitation, just a user limitation.