[Theory] [Official]The Giant Tobi Discussion/Theory Thread

[Owarij]

Re: Major Spoilers! Who is Tobi?

if i'm getting it right. then why did Kisame confirmed that the masked man is indeed Uchiha Madara when they first met?

kisame does not know what madara looked like man, he simply took off his mask and said i'm madara, kisame has no way of knowing the truth, what kisame did notice however was the sharingan , which is why he said "that is" this world really is all lies , or smthing like that

 

[msaisi]

Re: Who Is Tobi

...another thought is if we try to guess by elimination who Tobi is, we should start by eliminating Obito. Why, Obito should be around Kakashi's age. Tobi without the mask (atlist what part of the face we have seen) indicates aged features (Old geezer)

 

[Noxito]

Re: Who Is Tobi

What about that: Tobi is Sasukes father?

 

[This is my username]

Re: Tobi is a liar

WOW XD Tobi lied ?! that's world breaking news !!!!

ok, a lie is a lie, but he made an identity theft

 

[ChrysaBella]

Re: Who is behind that damn mask ?

Man in mask mentions that the rinnegan eyes were his to begin with..! And he tells to Konan that he gave the eyes to nagato..! Y did he do that? coz he wanted nagato to eventually use the outer samsara technique some time in the future!...(it is mentioned in the manga..he says so himself...it was madara's plan for nagato but naruto spoiled that plan!)


Kabuto's last coffin is Madara Uchiha.....and he is the only person thus who knows that tobi is not madara!!! Perhaps this masked man had gone to gr8 lengths to hide madara's corpse and ws shocked when kabuto found it.

Remember ...after the masked man forced kabuto to reveal his edo tensei technique...kabuto later went away thinking..."i will find out the secret of the SO6P'....that came right out of the blue!!! till then kabuto was only concerned with Sasuke and his EMS! That was a clue by Kishi is wat i think!!

So it could be the sage of the 6 paths. Since he was the only one in history known to have possesed the rinnegan. The SO6P son did not posses rinnegan. The older son’s eyes did not have the same ripple-like pattern of concentric circles instead of full circles like the Rinnegan. Instead, his dojutsu had a more spiral-like pattern.

Then why does this masked man hate so much Harashima Senjuu ... Why did he started a war .... why does he need Sasuke but only during the war ... if he was truly SO6P why let Itachi kill Uchiha clan ... I mean he could do it himself ... Why does he need the 7 resurected Jinjuuriki's ... if he's so powerfull , a legend he could crush Kabuto in an instant ... I admit I don't know who is that Masked man but your theory doesn't convince me

 

[lanakau888]

Re: ahah my money is still on tobi=madara

Do you literally want to put all your money on Tobi = madara?
Because you've got 222 kumi there, and if you want we can make a bet.

 

[Anduril]

Re: Poll for the man behind the mask lets see if NB gets it right

Ok bro. I got it.

yeah but the part i dont understand is how come madara knows about nagato??

I mean Jiraiya never met the second hokage even as a kid....
and Nagato was a kid when Jiraiya found him....so it seems weird really

 

[~The Norwegian~]

Tobi is obito!

Sry, for title, just had to get you guys in here

I wanted to take this up, because this just came into my mind, and here it is:

Tobi said that during his fight with Hashirama he took his cells, and put him into the Gedo Mazo. But, if he wasn't Madara, how did he get the cells?

This is just a build up for all the theories that's out and running, think on this one. Tobi has to be from Hashirama's time, meaning he can't be:

Obito
Shisui

He can be:
Izuna
Kagami

You decide.

 

[Deadai]

Re: ahah my money is still on tobi=madara

im chosing this because the scenario i built is alot more kish-like and i want to be unique and NOT say tobi=izuna/obito/kagami/the elder son.

i think their is/was two madaras ; original & "test tube baby madara manufactured by real madara by using izinagi"(research how ying and yang chakra works). well in that time that madara was "raising" second madara(most known as tobi) he encountered a test subject to try and obtain rinnegan, nagato. real madara gave nagato his sharingan to mix with nagatos uzumaki genes and evelove it in to rinnegan. but nagato was a youngster back then and madara didnt have the time. so he told "tobi" to proceed with the plans of moons eye plan on his own while the real madara stayed dead(real madara is missing half of tobi btw). tobi/madara came up with the plan to use the "outer path" of the rinnegan(the one that nagato used to bring every one in the hidden leaf back to life), madara wanted to bring his other half back to life, into tobis body which will also house the juubi by then. hence when nagato dies tobi said "damn you nagato you was suppose to save that technique for me. and also why tobi said "im only a shell of my former self". this was the hidden plan that was between tobi zetsu and real madara. notice the first thing madara noticed when he came out, he had an ASSUMPTION that nagato grew up because he EXPECTED nagato to resurrect him when he mastered his rinnegean, but then "impure world resurrection" was mentioned and madara had no idea he was brought back by it, i dont even think he knew what it was.
if you havent caught on by now. i believe that madara engineered tobi and poured some of his soul into him just so real madara can die to buy time for the moons eye plan and keep himself in low profile. also to keep monitoring nagato who was the test subject for the rinegan.

theres really threads of Tobi being Kagami?never heard of that theory i dont think Kagami is even close to being Tobi

 

[Sarutobi Sasuke]

Re: Tobi is Fugaku (Sasuke and Itachis father)

I see now that itachi did have MS before, but that changes nothing about my theory. I had only mentioned Fugaku wanting to activate Itachis MS as a side note. The theory is unchanged and IMHO still the most plausible.

To me the Toby=Zetsu clone theory seems the most plausible to me, even though I personally favor the Elder son theory just because it seems like it could be an interesting turn of events.

Anyway, Fugaku kind of looses the motive you provided for letting Itachi sacrifice the clan. And, you have to remember that Tobi helped with the Massacre. Which means that Fugaku helped with the massacre if he were to be Tobi.

Also The Kyuubi was able to recognize Tobi at Naruto's birth as you can see here:

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. You have to remember that the Kyuubi did not have any recent opportunities to make any new acquaintances. This is very significant seeing that the Kyuubi has been sealed away since the founding of Konoha. In other words, Tobi must be very old. Basically, Fugaku is not old enough to be Tobi.

We also got a couple glimpses of Tobi's upper face. And it does not look anything like Fugaku's upper face.

Also, Tobi has been very, very active with stuff outside of Konoha. Stuff like, controlling the Mizikage. Fugaku already had a demanding status within his clan and village. In other words, Fugaku didn't have the time to lead such a distant double life.

 

[amaterasu888]

Re: ahah my money is still on tobi=madara

im chosing this because the scenario i built is alot more kish-like and i want to be unique and not say tobi=izuna/obito/kagami/the elder son.

I think their is/was two madaras ; original & "test tube baby madara manufactured by real madara by using izinagi"(research how ying and yang chakra works). Well in that time that madara was "raising" second madara(most known as tobi) he encountered a test subject to try and obtain rinnegan, nagato. Real madara gave nagato his sharingan to mix with nagatos uzumaki genes and evelove it in to rinnegan. But nagato was a youngster back then and madara didnt have the time. So he told "tobi" to proceed with the plans of moons eye plan on his own while the real madara stayed dead(real madara is missing half of tobi btw). Tobi/madara came up with the plan to use the "outer path" of the rinnegan(the one that nagato used to bring every one in the hidden leaf back to life), madara wanted to bring his other half back to life, into tobis body which will also house the juubi by then. Hence when nagato dies tobi said "damn you nagato you was suppose to save that technique for me. And also why tobi said "im only a shell of my former self". This was the hidden plan that was between tobi zetsu and real madara. Notice the first thing madara noticed when he came out, he had an assumption that nagato grew up because he expected nagato to resurrect him when he mastered his rinnegean, but then "impure world resurrection" was mentioned and madara had no idea he was brought back by it, i dont even think he knew what it was.
If you havent caught on by now. I believe that madara engineered tobi and poured some of his soul into him just so real madara can die to buy time for the moons eye plan and keep himself in low profile. Also to keep monitoring nagato who was the test subject for the rinegan.

i like where this is going !!... Your theory is so believable, its as if your in league with kishi...

 

[luke415]

Re: ahah my money is still on tobi=madara

thats a pretty good point but who knows i think anything is possible now

 

[Seffy]

Re: Tobi is obito!

Sry, for title, just had to get you guys in here

I wanted to take this up, because this just came into my mind, and here it is:

Tobi said that during his fight with Hashirama he took his cells, and put him into the Gedo Mazo. But, if he wasn't Madara, how did he get the cells?

This is just a build up for all the theories that's out and running, think on this one. Tobi has to be from Hashirama's time, meaning he can't be:

Obito
Shisui

He can be:
Izuna
Kagami

You decide.

I think he's Izuna :shrug: but we won't know until Kishi reveals that and it could just be some new character he hasn't introuduced yet. I don't put anything by Kishi anymore lol. Nice ava

 

[WoWvsNaruto]

Re: Major Spoilers! Who is Tobi?

just posted this on anouther thread.
Nagato isnt madara lol no. Madara(tobi version) said he gave Nagato the rennigan. (imo) soo that Nagato could ressurect him as one of the Pains. thats maybe why he said soo nagato finally did it. which was why he was confused by the impure res tech. but then who the **** is tobi! you son of a bitch... its ****ing obito i knew it. he had a new arm made when it was crushed by the rock. and thats why his other mask had 1 eye... thats why it was able to be cut off by minato.. <--- trololol ive been right about everything ever since. it will be him XD

 

[Sasuke2]

Re: Tobi is not Madara, we were fooled.

Actually Kishimoto has shown use that its Izuna long ago ... we were just blind (under illusion) :

Uchiha Madara

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Uchiha Izuna

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The guy with the hood was Izuna all along ...
We have not realized so O _ O

 

[tiptop]

Re: ahah my money is still on tobi=madara

Do you literally want to put all your money on Tobi = madara?
Because you've got 222 kumi there, and if you want we can make a bet.

i actually dont care much for kumi so what ever man xd

 

[Uchiha Paulsama]

Re: Tobi is obito!

im lost i dont even know what to expect out this manga know more U_U


but thats what i love about naruto xd

 

[~The Norwegian~]

Re: Tobi is obito!

I think he's Izuna :shrug: but we won't know until Kishi reveals that and it could just be some new character he hasn't introuduced yet. I don't put anything by Kishi anymore lol. Nice ava

Thx ^^

To be honest I just made this thread because I wanted to have a normal discussion, for once.

 

[Coyote]

Re: Tobi is obito!

How do you explain Oro getting the cells then? He was after Kagami that's for sure.

 

[JJR]

Re: Tobi is obito!

hahahha nice title. U know what other one works wonders? "Minato is the best"
lol. Yeah I agreed with u. It hast to be someone from that time.
But any new stories could emerge explaining how he got the ADN.