[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 559 Discussion and 560 Predictions
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madarafan113
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C what i think happened is tobi is an expierment from orochimaru that would explain why kabuto knows so much and he knew the real madara is dead, so tobi is just implanted with madaras cells and harishimas cells thats y he can use sharingan
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ninjastormgenaration33
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Amazing chapter finally proven right about the 6th coffin, I have to agree with MrMax and lean towards Izuna being under the mask but it's hard to tell right now.
I honestly don't think it is Obito but imagine the look on everyone's face if it some how turned out to be...I know i would hit the floor xD
I honestly don't think it is Obito but imagine the look on everyone's face if it some how turned out to be...I know i would hit the floor xD
ninjastormgenaration33
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Sorry man, couldn't help it. It's just that, if Kishi wants to, he could make any theory happen. Just because your theory can't be rejected, doesn't mean its certain to happen. It certainly would be to twist it, lol.Hey now, don't be hatin', brah
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KekkaiGenkai
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kakashitachi
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the armor has nothing to do with that..although if he did die in the fight with the 1st wouldnt his armor be ass messed up and torn up? not fresh out the cleaners?? idk maybe something to think about
Wparker6804
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Maby Madara isn't technically a Zetsu clone. Perhaps he designed the clones after his own body. Either way, he's a fraud
Wparker6804
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Well, he designed each corpse and its outfit to look like the origional person. Hanzo's gass mask, for instance.
furiousboy
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So, I don't see anyone else saying this so I'm gonna. What do we know about Tobi? Well we know he's very old, we know he originally possessed a rinnigan, and we know he has a sharingan. So the first two are what need to be focused on since having a sharingan doesnt mean you've had it since birth. Let's see so what line possesses the rinnigan? Well its passed down through the senju clan. His name is Tobi you say? Hmmm well how about Tobirama Senju, Hashirama's younger brother? Or does that make too much sense? I mean he would know all about madara, all about the rinnigan, and could have a reason for hating konoha due to his brother being the first hokage....
Do you think Naruto's kage bunshin's are gross aswell? He just goes *pooff*, done, clones! When Nagato makes his paths, he might do the same thing with his eyes. Don't tell me that just because Nagato puts those rods in them a pair of rinnegans suddenly appears out of nowhere. It's likely that he somehow makes a quick clone of his rinnegan, and puts it in the bodies which have those rods with infused chakra.
OopsWrongHole
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Since hearing people comments to why Tobi could be Madara has made me warm up quite a bit to the idea of that
A little ticked off I just wrote crap loads just for the browser to cut off -.-
Anyway I am confused to how Madara knew Nagato, since Madara was around 100 years ago, I don't even think Jiraiya was alive when Madara was. So how could Madara know Nagato?
I am not sure whether Madara died or not. Maybe Madara died when he fought the 1st Hokage or he lived afterwards. Anyway remember Madara thought he was brought back by Nagato rebirth Jutsu? Do you also remember Tobi said Nagato rebirth Jutsu was for him when Nagato died?
I believe Madara and Tobi are now the same person, I believe Tobi is the split version of Madara. I do not know if anyone has noticed this. I had to re-check the manga to just refresh my memory. You only see Madara in this chapter with One Sharingan and when Tobi fought Konan his right eye closed when he used Izanagi, where his Main Sharingan has always been visible on his left side. Even now with the Rinnegan he keeps that left Sharingan. I believe that left Sharingan is Uchiha Madara's. I'm not sure how Madara managed to split himself in to two. Maybe Tobi was created by the help of Zetsu (Explains why his body is made up of Zetsu goo and is able to replace any limb). The split version is not the body etc, it solely the left eye of Uchiha Madara.
I do not believe Madara used Izanagi to save his life, it explains why he died. He used Izanagi to breathe life perhaps into the body Zetsu made and used his left eye to keep himself to live on. That could explain why Tobi has lived on for so long.
I am sorry if none of this makes sense, I already wrote all this out and it annoyed me to write it all again. If you don't understand some parts. Just say so I can explain it better.
To SUM it all up
Tobi is Madara, he has Madara left eye and Madara used Izanagi to keep that part of himself to live on through the Zetsu body, that is why the left eye perhaps didn't close,, Maybe the EMS gave him that ability to do this. It could explain why Tobi can not use EMS because he is not reunited with Madara.
Maybe it why Tobi had to agree to side with Kabuto because while Kabuto had control of Madara, he could never reunite with him.
Madara right eye is only visible
Tobi left eye was only visible (before the rinnegan)
I actually believe Madara and Tobi are the same person
I just don't know how Madara would know who Nagato was.
A little ticked off I just wrote crap loads just for the browser to cut off -.-
Anyway I am confused to how Madara knew Nagato, since Madara was around 100 years ago, I don't even think Jiraiya was alive when Madara was. So how could Madara know Nagato?
I am not sure whether Madara died or not. Maybe Madara died when he fought the 1st Hokage or he lived afterwards. Anyway remember Madara thought he was brought back by Nagato rebirth Jutsu? Do you also remember Tobi said Nagato rebirth Jutsu was for him when Nagato died?
I believe Madara and Tobi are now the same person, I believe Tobi is the split version of Madara. I do not know if anyone has noticed this. I had to re-check the manga to just refresh my memory. You only see Madara in this chapter with One Sharingan and when Tobi fought Konan his right eye closed when he used Izanagi, where his Main Sharingan has always been visible on his left side. Even now with the Rinnegan he keeps that left Sharingan. I believe that left Sharingan is Uchiha Madara's. I'm not sure how Madara managed to split himself in to two. Maybe Tobi was created by the help of Zetsu (Explains why his body is made up of Zetsu goo and is able to replace any limb). The split version is not the body etc, it solely the left eye of Uchiha Madara.
I do not believe Madara used Izanagi to save his life, it explains why he died. He used Izanagi to breathe life perhaps into the body Zetsu made and used his left eye to keep himself to live on. That could explain why Tobi has lived on for so long.
I am sorry if none of this makes sense, I already wrote all this out and it annoyed me to write it all again. If you don't understand some parts. Just say so I can explain it better.
To SUM it all up
Tobi is Madara, he has Madara left eye and Madara used Izanagi to keep that part of himself to live on through the Zetsu body, that is why the left eye perhaps didn't close,, Maybe the EMS gave him that ability to do this. It could explain why Tobi can not use EMS because he is not reunited with Madara.
Maybe it why Tobi had to agree to side with Kabuto because while Kabuto had control of Madara, he could never reunite with him.
Madara right eye is only visible
Tobi left eye was only visible (before the rinnegan)
I actually believe Madara and Tobi are the same person
I just don't know how Madara would know who Nagato was.
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rasenbarage
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has anyone else noticed that tobi hasn't shown any form of mangekyo sharingan???
maybe he's just able to use a regular sharingan; and before i get blasted with "well there's Izanagi" danzo was able to use that without possessing a form of mangekyo; any thoughts on this???
maybe he's just able to use a regular sharingan; and before i get blasted with "well there's Izanagi" danzo was able to use that without possessing a form of mangekyo; any thoughts on this???
lostintheocean
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we never saw the fight with madara and the first
who says the armor had to be messed up and torn when he died?
he couldve got his neck snapped, we dont know... anything could have happened
I knew it! i guessed right also about that last coffinas the trump card. but how do the joint shinobi would fight this guy? I swear Itachi and Kakashi would be an awesome duo to battle the real Madara, battle royale of the sharingans!
KnowledgeGod
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Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 559 Discussion/ 560 Predictions
The Orignal Madara died as you can see. He died very young also look at his edo tensi! So he died around the time he fought the 1st Hokage.
Black Zestu body is split into two.
Black Zestu/ White Zestu
Tobi Zestu/ Black Zestu
Tobi Zestu= funny, silly,humor and good boy
White Zestu = funny, silly, humor, jokey boy lol
That's why you had the split personality going on with Tobi/Madara because it's just like the adavance White Zestu clone.
Black Zestu just has the memory and intel and skills of the original Madara but the White Zestu half provides the Chakra and DNA of the original Madara so he can use the sharingan.
Black Zestu is the Main Villian quote me on this
Tobi/Madara is an adavance clone of Madara, just like the original White Zetsu is to Black Zestu.Im not sure about tobi still being madara but i agree with you about black zetzu being the main villain
The Orignal Madara died as you can see. He died very young also look at his edo tensi! So he died around the time he fought the 1st Hokage.
Black Zestu body is split into two.
Black Zestu/ White Zestu
Tobi Zestu/ Black Zestu
Tobi Zestu= funny, silly,humor and good boy
White Zestu = funny, silly, humor, jokey boy lol
That's why you had the split personality going on with Tobi/Madara because it's just like the adavance White Zestu clone.
Black Zestu just has the memory and intel and skills of the original Madara but the White Zestu half provides the Chakra and DNA of the original Madara so he can use the sharingan.
Black Zestu is the Main Villian quote me on this
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