Harashima Senju VS Nagato(pain)

[kadowade]

how will hashirama counter chibaku tensei he hasnt got Naruto and Bee Next to him im sorry this is a bad match up for Hashirama anyway just look at the video and put Hashirama in that situation

You see how long it takes for that technique to even take affect.
Itachi and naruto and bee was basically having a consversation while Nagato was using Chibaku Tensei.

Anybody can just immobilize Nagato while he has his hands together, using Chibaku Tensei. Example: PAin uses Chibaku Tensei, since it takes forever for it to start, Hashirama crushes Pain with a wood style technique . He will not stand there and watch like a dumbass. He would just appear behind pain and attack before chibaku tensei fully activates.

 

[House]

Nagato wins.

 

[arv993]

You see how long it takes for that technique to even take affect.
Itachi and naruto and bee was basically having a consversation while Nagato was using Chibaku Tensei.

Anybody can just immobilize Nagato while he has his hands together, using Chibaku Tensei. Example: PAin uses Chibaku Tensei, since it takes forever for it to start, Hashirama crushes Pain with a wood style technique . He will not stand there and watch like a dumbass. He would just appear behind pain and attack before chibaku tensei fully activates.

and he could slip up nagato with genjutsu that is s-rank like his darknesss tech. i think he is much more capable but we don'tall about him.

 

[Paradox Ruler]

He didn't control him. He used the Chakra transmitters (Rods) to make you feel his presence. Thats why when NAruto stabbed himself with Nagatos Rods, Naruto instantly felt where Nagato was hiding.

So thats not controlling, he just makes you feel his presence. He once did it on Kakashi. He stabbed Kakashi with the Rod, and while Kakashi was using Raikiri he sensed Pains presence. He didnt control Kakashi at all.

kakashi had to be in nagato terrortory to be controlled or unable to move
anyone who's in pain terrortory who's get'snhit with the rod is not moving but naruto did a kyubi sage fusion so that he couldn't be controlled or unable to move.

 

[Tosen]

You know how styles make matches in real fights we'll this is a bad mathchup for Harashima Senju I mean it appears he is a primarily a Ninjutsu fighter and Pain has just the think for that Preta path.

 

[Paradox Ruler]

and he could slip up nagato with genjutsu that is s-rank like his darknesss tech.

that genjutsu only powerful for affecting one sense and that tech is only A rank

 

[Izanami]

You see how long it takes for that technique to even take affect.
Itachi and naruto and bee was basically having a consversation while Nagato was using Chibaku Tensei.

Anybody can just immobilize Nagato while he has his hands together, using Chibaku Tensei. Example: PAin uses Chibaku Tensei, since it takes forever for it to start, Hashirama crushes Pain with a wood style technique . He will not stand there and watch like a dumbass. He would just appear behind pain and attack before chibaku tensei fully activates.

Nah lol they wernt talking they said what the hell is he doing after kabuto shinra tesnei itachis amateseru of nagato and a very good point to make is that the 9 tails is faster and then any human but it got captured i just see hashirama just hanging on to his trees and then getting crushed unless he can teleport which is probable seeing as hes the hokage and tbh if you look past your bias i dont think anyone can beat a healthy Nagato especially with his paths unless madara has kabutos 6 paths with him

 

[arv993]

kakashi had to be in nagato terrortory to be controlled or unable to move
anyone who's in pain terrortory who's get'snhit with the rod is not moving but naruto did a kyubi sage fusion so that he couldn't be controlled or unable to move.

naruto was not controlled anyway though he was strong enough to not be in control and its not really genjutsu its just nagato trying to control which failed at cos naruto is no weak guy and he was pissed at that.

 

[kadowade]

kakashi had to be in nagato terrortory to be controlled or unable to move
anyone who's in pain terrortory who's get'snhit with the rod is not moving but naruto did a kyubi sage fusion so that he couldn't be controlled or unable to move.

Dude KAkashi was 1 cenemiter away from PAin And had a Chakra rod stuck in his arm. Kakashi still wasen't controlled. Pain cannot "control you"

 

[arv993]

Nah lol they wernt talking they said what the hell is he doing after kabuto shinra tesnei itachis amateseru of nagato and a very good point to make is that the 9 tails is faster and then any human but it got captured i just see hashirama just hanging on to his trees and then getting crushed unless he can teleport which is probable seeing as hes the hokage and tbh if you look past your bias i dont think anyone can beat a healthy Nagato especially with his paths unless madara has kabutos 6 paths with him

nagato healthy is what we saw when he fought against bee and naruto dude how much more do u want. kishi said he was complete, nah minato, madara, itachi, kabuto are all good candidates to beat him look past ur bias b4 u talk about others. and in when he is not edo he can be hurt so he can lose arms against hashirama and also get caught in his genjutsu.

 

[Izanami]

nagato being crippled is his fault making him complete makes him powerful but not on s06p range he does not have all the paths to do that. its like saying why doesn't ityachi get morechakra he can use more sussano then they have weaknneses and nagato has bad mobility.

You really hate nagato dont you him being crippled isnt his weakness lol he wasnt born a cripple

 

[Paradox Ruler]

Dude KAkashi was 1 cenemiter away from PAin And had a Chakra rod stuck in his arm. Kakashi still wasen't controlled. Pain cannot "control you"

you're getting confused that was not the real pains chakra source, the real pain was miles away hiding in a tower

 

[Tosen]

You really hate nagato dont you him being crippled isnt his weakness lol he wasnt born a cripple

To be honest even though I dont agree with arv993 in his views of Nagato his still cool though.

 

[arv993]

You really hate nagato dont you him being crippled isnt his weakness lol he wasnt born a cripple

ur so ignorant he weakened he is strong but u can't add stuff like what if he was not crippled, its like saying oh lets give kakashhi more chakra, lets take away itachi's disease. they got hurt in battle and have a weakness. kishi developed the story like that and u can't do anything about it healthy nagato is the one we saw in tha fight against naruto, bee and itachi. iwhat ur doing is wishful thinking and we saw nagato in full power. nagato is strong and smart but not so6p lvl. if he was he would take over the world lol and not have to catch bijus.

 

[Paradox Ruler]

over 140 post's in one day in this thread

 

[kadowade]

Nah lol they wernt talking they said what the hell is he doing after kabuto shinra tesnei itachis amateseru of nagato and a very good point to make is that the 9 tails is faster and then any human but it got captured i just see hashirama just hanging on to his trees and then getting crushed unless he can teleport which is probable seeing as hes the hokage and tbh if you look past your bias i dont think anyone can beat a healthy Nagato especially with his paths unless madara has kabutos 6 paths with him

Nagato's paths is not all that beastly.
Konohamaru destroyed 1
Naruto destroyed like some like 4 times
Choji and his dad destroyed 1
Jiraiya destroyed 4.

Plus Nagato cant fight WITH his paths at the SAME time. Because when using his paths, all his powers are distributed among his paths instead of him.

So it's either Nagato, OR JUST 6 paths. Not both

 

[Izanami]

nagato healthy is what we saw when he fought against bee and naruto dude how much more do u want. kishi said he was complete, nah minato, madara, itachi, kabuto are all good candidates to beat him look past ur bias b4 u talk about others. and in when he is not edo he can be hurt so he can lose arms against hashirama and also get caught in his genjutsu.

we saw a healthy nagato getting controlled yeah i dont see how thats bias hiruzen beat the 1st and the 2nd hokage as an old man while they were being controlled but would you say that 1st hokage and 2nd hokage are not as strong no you look past your bias lol and see the truth if nagato nearly killed/captured all of them being controlled imagine his strength not being controlled that is why he was taken out of the manga you cant leave an overpowered character like that in it kishi had to cripple him so they would have a chance if you look at its pretty stupid thats why until madara shows all of nagatos techniques with the same mastery he wont be stronger

 

[kadowade]

you're getting confused that was not the real pains chakra source, the real pain was miles away hiding in a tower

The "real" one cannot control people. WHo has he controlled? All he can do is stick a rod in you so you'll sense his presence.

 

[kadowade]

we saw a healthy nagato getting controlled yeah i dont see how thats bias hiruzen beat the 1st and the 2nd hokage as an old man while they were being controlled but would you say that 1st hokage and 2nd hokage are not as strong no you look past your bias lol and see the truth if nagato nearly killed/captured all of them being controlled imagine his strength not being controlled that is why he was taken out of the manga you cant leave an overpowered character like that in it kishi had to cripple him so they would have a chance if you look at its pretty stupid thats why until madara shows all of nagatos techniques with the same mastery he wont be stronger

Dude kishi made some of the stronget characters sick. Or Handicapped

Nagato
Kimmimaru
Orochimaru
Itachi

 

[arv993]

we saw a healthy nagato getting controlled yeah i dont see how thats bias hiruzen beat the 1st and the 2nd hokage as an old man while they were being controlled but would you say that 1st hokage and 2nd hokage are not as strong no you look past your bias lol and see the truth if nagato nearly killed/captured all of them being controlled imagine his strength not being controlled that is why he was taken out of the manga you cant leave an overpowered character like that in it kishi had to cripple him so they would have a chance if you look at its pretty stupid thats why until madara shows all of nagatos techniques with the same mastery he wont be stronger

ur the biggest nagato fanboy ever dude if nnagato was so strong why did he get hurt by hanzo, why did he get cripple. he is strong but not godly as u think. and oro's edos are not as good as kabuto's and that is a fact. oro is not as good in controlling like kabuto is either so its big difference and don't talk to me about bias when ur full of it. all strong charcaters are disadvantaged like itachi who had a disease, minato who had to die young, oro who had a disease also and madara a shell of a former self.