[Theory] Itachi is stronger than Nagato

[7itachi]

I personally like both characters equally, so anyone who thinks im a Nagato fanboy for saying this can go die in a pit.

Heres where your logic is wrong my blind friend:

A) No, Itachi did NOT destroy Chibaku Tensei, it was the COMBINED EFFORTS of Naruto, B AND Itachi that did that.

B) No, Itachi did NOT win against Nagato, he used the Tatsuka sword to seal his soul; In other words he cut the fight short before anything else could happen.

C) Theres a reason why NAGATO was the leader of Akatsuki, not ITACHI

All i can say is that they are both strong. but the thing is, itachi can think faster than Nagato since he used all the available resources, bee and naruto, to defeat nagato. And besides, we don't know if there are still up on itachi's sleeves.

 

[MuDfAcToRy25]

dude obviously ppl know that the shield blocks only what hits it and it takes more time for susano to form completely like about 2-3 seconds as shown in the anime when he fought sasuke but he cannot form it instantly he only used a susano cos if he could form a complete shield and the whole susano form in an instant he would have done it and saved naruto and bee but he only went in with the regular susano which is what all he had time for when he had to save both of them.

No look again.... Susano'o INSTANLY formed to that state and then they continue fighting and susano'o DOES NOT continue to "grow" to the complete state. Only once the explosions cloud is obscuring them does Itachi use the complete susano'o.

Now just for info if you read Kishi's interviews you can find out that He doesn't work directly on the Anime, he just gives them rules they cant break like "no guns", so quoting the anime OVER the manga is a no no. So that was an instant susano'o appearance in the manga. Kishi didnt draw a frame of a half-formed susano'o and then him complete in the next frame. Itachi yelled "susano'o" and there it was fully formed stage 1. So there is no reason to believe that he cant go straight to stage 2. Gai skips gates he doesn't always open gate 1 first he'll go straight to 2.

Also if it really took that long (2-3 sec) to form Itachi would be dead from Kirin since like Zetsu said it was real lightning and travels at about the speed of light so Sasuke would've seen susano'o before he fired off Kirin if Itachi had started forming it in time to block it on THAT time table. If its NOT instant then Itachis survival is a GIANT plot hole.....

 

[Swizzik]

Now that Itachi is in control...why cant he become Hokage since its obvious that he is at that level

Hokages are elected and i doubt people would elect a mass murderer as their leader but who knows?

 

[arv993]

No look again.... Susano'o INSTANLY formed to that state and then they continue fighting and susano'o DOES NOT continue to "grow" to the complete state. Only once the explosions cloud is obscuring them does Itachi use the complete susano'o.

Now just for info if you read Kishi's interviews you can find out that He doesn't work directly on the Anime, he just gives them rules they cant break like "no guns", so quoting the anime OVER the manga is a no no. So that was an instant susano'o appearance in the manga. Kishi didnt draw a frame of a half-formed susano'o and then him complete in the next frame. Itachi yelled "susano'o" and there it was fully formed stage 1. So there is no reason to believe that he cant go straight to stage 2. Gai skips gates he doesn't always open gate 1 first he'll go straight to 2.

Also if it really took that long (2-3 sec) to form Itachi would be dead from Kirin since like Zetsu said it was real lightning and travels at about the speed of light so Sasuke would've seen susano'o before he fired off Kirin if Itachi had started forming it in time to block it on THAT time table. If its NOT instant then Itachis survival is a GIANT plot hole.....

r u reading my post right i said in my posts that he uses stage 1 which is instant as he showed also when he had to save bee and naruto. Saying that gai can go to 6 gates from the begnning does not mean that itachi can do the same they are two completely different characters with different powers. And i just used anime as a reference on how long it would take, but even in the manga they show us that itachi when he saved naruto and bee quickly only formed the stage 1 susano not the stage 2 so it is obviously cannot be formed as fast. I said that susabo the one he has the sword and armor and everything take 2-3 sec from the looks of it(it is clearly not instant), but the one that blocked kirin and and saved bee and naruto are clearly different and formed in an instant, stop trying to change my words to fit ur argument i clearly said stage 2(which is what i meant by complete) the one with armor, sword and shield takes 2-3 seconds(approximation).

 

[MuDfAcToRy25]

r u reading my post right i said in my posts that he uses stage 1 which is instant as he showed also when he had to save bee and naruto. Saying that gai can go to 6 gates from the begnning does not mean that itachi can do the same they are two completely different characters with different powers. And i just used anime as a reference on how long it would take, but even in the manga they show us that itachi when he saved naruto and bee quickly only formed the stage 1 susano not the stage 2 so it is obviously cannot be formed as fast. I said that susabo the one he has the sword and armor and everything take 2-3 sec from the looks of it(it is clearly not instant), but the one that blocked kirin and and saved bee and naruto are clearly different and formed in an instant, stop trying to change my words to fit ur argument i clearly said stage 2(which is what i meant by complete) the one with armor, sword and shield takes 2-3 seconds(approximation).

OOOOOOOOOOOOOK i see what you meant now. No you didnt CLEARLY state it lol. I thought you mean completely form Susano'os body not the "complete" form. But i see what you are saying now.

But had he used second stage he wouldn't have had two FREE hands to grab bee and Naruto either he would've had a sword and a shield in them so that could easily be why he used the first form and not the second and it not been a time issue.

 

[babymike]

hav u seen it??!! All u nagato fans now know that itachi is stronger than nagato. He even destroyed chikudan tensei by using yasaka's magatama. His strongest long range. The best part was how he handled d situation with calmness and came up with an effective counter. Itachi is d best. Nagato fans u just hav 2 agree that he is better than nagato. Itachi rules!!!

wrong...read that chapter again, itachi b and naruto stongest long range attacks destroyed chibuku tensi..... Nagato>itachi

 

[arv993]

OOOOOOOOOOOOOK i see what you meant now. No you didnt CLEARLY state it lol. I thought you mean completely form Susano'os body not the "complete" form. But i see what you are saying now.

But had he used second stage he wouldn't have had two FREE hands to grab bee and Naruto either he would've had a sword and a shield in them so that could easily be why he used the first form and not the second and it not been a time issue.

i doubt it cos in second stage all his armor changes too i don't think he had enough time, it ,maybe a possibility but not sure or maybe that is his first form where he does hav four hands.

 

[MuDfAcToRy25]

i doubt it cos in second stage all his armor changes too i don't think he had enough time, it ,maybe a possibility but not sure or maybe that is his first form where he does hav four hands.

Yeah one hand cut nagato's arms and two others caught Bee and Naruto. A tough feat when two hands are holding the gourd that the sword of totsuka comes out of and another is holding the yata mirror.

 

[Ari Hyuga]

very hard to answer but i think it would be EPIC!!

 

[arv993]

Yeah one hand cut nagato's arms and two others caught Bee and Naruto. A tough feat when two hands are holding the gourd that the sword of totsuka comes out of and another is holding the yata mirror.

i kno there are 4 hands without the gourd and sword dude but he also just had the bones not the full version of susano which has all the armor.

 

[MuDfAcToRy25]

i kno there are 4 hands without the gourd and sword dude but he also just had the bones not the full version of susano which has all the armor.

I didn't know we were disagreeing about that. I just said that its hard to use three free hands if 3 of your 4 available hands are full

 

[arv993]

I didn't know we were disagreeing about that. I just said that its hard to use three free hands if 3 of your 4 available hands are full

oh ok i did not understand what u were trying to say in ur post but ok i get ur point.

 

[7itachi]

rather than actually waste my time responding to this itachi>nagato bs i will just copy and paste what i put in other itachi fan boy threads
This is the reason why kishi shouldnt have had him get sealed like that because fanboys and girls will start flocking from all over the globe screaming itachi beat nagato he rules itachi>all the truth is they all helped each other if naruto and bee wernt there itachi would of been sucked into the chibaku tensei upgrade black sphere thingie the same with itachi saving them with susanno you need to read the manga properly before you start with your fanboy shet, it took 3 top class ninja to get him sealed itachi would not be able to stand vs nagato let alone nagato,naruto and Bee this manga showed how powerful he was and lets bear in mind that he was being controlled by kabuto so yeah anyone saying itachi would beat nagato in a 1v1 is clearly letting there own opnions get in the way of what we saw in the manga and basic common sense.

I agree. We won't know what would happen if they fight 1on1. It would have been one of the greatest fight in the history of anime, together with the "Gaara vs Rock Lee".

 

[arv993]

A tiny nine tail ha ha ha u are dumb that is the most chakra and power you can physically have you retard if one path of pain can do it while nine tails is rampaging after him he can easily dodge susano and launch planetary devastation and we seen susano has weakness in his back because of danzo so planetary devastation would crush him and if danzos wind attacks can almost move susano pein can send him flying

yea using chibaku tensei is not easy its not a fast attack where as the sword is nagato even got sealed by the thing b4 even noticing. that is sasuke's that danzo moved not itachi's which has a yata mirror and was able to block kirin. yea i do have to agree with u that saying nine tails is tiny and referring it as weak is pretty ignorant though.

 

[ReLax -]

You are dumb if 3 people are fighting to kill the same 1 person it's a 3 on 1
You see how that works and if you can actually think that's not a disadvantage you are messed up in your head.

Itachi > Nagato. If you are a dumb a$$ itachi fan boy with sharnigan ball sack in your mouths it's been so long get over itachi

Well I posted a brick wall post on this matter seems like people don't have much of an argument with that.

Nagato is strong no doubt but before jumping to conclusion on who would win please do tell me when you saw Itachi in a serious battle?

 

[PEIN is the answer]

If they are booth healthy it would be susano vs gedo statue what do you think would win gedo statue is way more powerful and bad ass

 

[enditallsin]

Um no hes not just has more allies which gives him more opportunities...without that hes a dead man as well as the next guy

 

[Honord Sage]

Combined effort?

Naruto and Bee were getting owned by Nagato who I should mention died twice prior to them getting owned but thanks to Edo Tensei, he was still alive and kicking.

Itachi beat him.

And stop crying about it being 3 vs. 1 when it obviously was 2 vs. 1 and Nagato was winning. Once Itachi joined, he managed to figure out his weakness, help Naruto and Bee and defeat Nagato.

Nagato had no handicap, in fact, he had an upper hand thanks to Edo Tensei's regeneration ability.


You are dumb if 3 people are fighting to kill the same 1 person it's a 3 on 1
You see how that works and if you can actually think that's not a disadvantage you are messed up in your head.

Itachi > Nagato. If you are a dumb a$$ itachi fan boy with sharnigan ball sack in your mouths it's been so long get over itachi

Itachi did not beat Nagato, without Bee's Beast Bomb and Naruto's Wind shrunken Itachi would have been suck in and pin down, Their was no escape from Nagato's power except to overload the tech and Itachi did not have the power to do so Himself, Naruto and Bee had to help.

 

[ultimatesasukefan]

Itachi did not beat Nagato, without Bee's Beast Bomb and Naruto's Wind shrunken Itachi would have been suck in and pin down, Their was no escape from Nagato's power except to overload the tech and Itachi did not have the power to do so Himself, Naruto and Bee had to help.

tottaly aggree with u

 

[Izanami]

yea using chibaku tensei is not easy its not a fast attack where as the sword is nagato even got sealed by the thing b4 even noticing. that is sasuke's that danzo moved not itachi's which has a yata mirror and was able to block kirin. yea i do have to agree with u that saying nine tails is tiny and referring it as weak is pretty ignorant though.

you always leave stuff out like the massive cloud blocking nagatos view and his inner struggle with kabuto
itachis susanoo and his blade are so over rated your main arguement is that he would just seal him but Nagato controlling a dead body dodged the 9 tails attacks and captured it.im just stating facts.Could itachi do what Nagato has done? No he could not destroy konoha by himself and he could not capture the 9 tails by himself.Susanoo is pure chakra and its sword is at best medium speed i have seen it in the anime it looked a bit sluggish when he stabbed oro he had to lean back open his eyes then stab.Nagato has a lot of techs that would take out suanoo he could asorb its chakra,throw it around with divine attraction,shinra tensei would slow it down and celestial tera sphere would obviously suck up its chakra then itachi by himself.for the person complaining about Nagato being under the edo tensei conditions you are ignorant because itachi is under edo tensei conditions too and also this crap about without absorbing bee and narutos chakra he wouldnt be able to walk without edo tensei itachi would barely be able to see so there you go