[Game] Naruto Shippuden Mafia Game #43

[Gutsy]

I never mentioned that Waluigi was a big concern, but we shouldn't take the cop argument he presents here at face value. Also, just because he is a louder presence here does not mean he should be absolved from scrutiny, just because it would be quiet without him. As I mentioned many times previously, a loud wolf can be a dangerous one.

I still believe, though, that we have more pressing matters and should address them first. There are still a few people not chatting, but let's not forget that some people here may be new, some may be trying to fade into the background, and some may just be generally busy. For better or worse, we do know that the wolves must be active to some extent since they are making kills.

I would still say my biggest suspicion at this point is Stargate. But I am hesitant to double down on the vote right now because there is a possibility he might be 'the doc'.

I am still unsure of Rohan, and the big boss strikes me more as someone inexperienced, although I am not ruling him out either.

This doesn't leave many options. I would like to here more from @AnimePigeon and @Naomi_ tbh

I will go back and look at both of these two and there previous posts. Until then, can you tell me your current reads, your current prime suspicions, why you suspect them and what you think of the supposed 'Doctor' currently please.

I get why yuou have your concerns about Waluigi and I dont say he is not an issue. The cop argument is for sure not enough to make someone be absolved of all suspicions.

I am currently not as concerned about Stargate as others might be like yourself, im more concerned about the active voters who have their suspicious activities mainly focused on Ekko and Big Boss. Rohan i am uncertain about.

 

[Gutsy]

Rohan is very wolfie.

lays low, low post, accuses other.

act like a townie if your a town.

You are also not a very active poster, yes you post, but your messages are short and you generally use them to accuse others without providing forms of evidence or reasoning.

 

[The Big Boss]

Wolf

rohan
gutsy
animepigeon

 

[Gutsy]

Wolf

rohan
gutsy
animepigeon

On what grounds?

 

[The Big Boss]

You are also not a very active poster, yes you post, but your messages are short and you generally use them to accuse others without providing forms of evidence or reasoning.

Why would waluigi or I lie about being town?

stargate is a doc but doesn’t mean they can be wolf.

townies have died without a single wolf death.

your not helping the town.

 

[The Big Boss]

On what grounds?

Accusing me at day 3 is all I need to hear.

 

[The Big Boss]

I never mentioned that Waluigi was a big concern, but we shouldn't take the cop argument he presents here at face value. Also, just because he is a louder presence here does not mean he should be absolved from scrutiny, just because it would be quiet without him. As I mentioned many times previously, a loud wolf can be a dangerous one.

I still believe, though, that we have more pressing matters and should address them first. There are still a few people not chatting, but let's not forget that some people here may be new, some may be trying to fade into the background, and some may just be generally busy. For better or worse, we do know that the wolves must be active to some extent since they are making kills.

I would still say my biggest suspicion at this point is Stargate. But I am hesitant to double down on the vote right now because there is a possibility he might be 'the doc'.

I am still unsure of Rohan, and the big boss strikes me more as someone inexperienced, although I am not ruling him out either.

This doesn't leave many options. I would like to here more from @AnimePigeon and @Naomi_ tbh

I will go back and look at both of these two and there previous posts. Until then, can you tell me your current reads, your current prime suspicions, why you suspect them and what you think of the supposed 'Doctor' currently please.

I feel like your a town.

 

[The Big Boss]

Lazy townies will be treated like wolves.

 

[The Big Boss]

9 left

town

waluigi
the big boss
kirikoe

everyone else has to prove themselves

 

[Lucidus]

Them join waluigi and myself.

Woah there, thats a slippery slope for no reason. You are saying, 'If you are town, you must join us' Yet there is no real evidence you are even town yourself.

It is easy to say you are town, but it doesn't make it true.

For example I could say im a 400-foot tall purple platypus-bear with pink horns and silver wings. It doesn't mean its true.

 

[The Big Boss]

Woah there, thats a slippery slope for no reason. You are saying, 'If you are town, you must join us' Yet there is no real evidence you are even town yourself.

It is easy to say you are town, but it doesn't make it true.

For example I could say im a 400-foot tall purple platypus-bear with pink horns and silver wings. It doesn't mean its true.

Last elimination

my day 2 vote was for stargate
waluigi chose hunty

stargate might be a doc with no power, hunty didn’t feel like playing

 

[Lucidus]

Last elimination

my day 2 vote was for stargate
waluigi chose hunty

stargate might be a doc with no power, hunty didn’t feel like playing

I understand.

Right now im not saying you are a wolf or a town, but we should avoid, right now until there is 100% proof, anyone could be anything.

For me, there are definitely people who are not participating as much, which is detrimental to the town, whether it is actually town or wolf.

Right now im a bit on the fence with a few people

 

[Gutsy]

@The Big Boss

TBB, confidence isn’t a flip.
You’ve now:
• called three people “wolf” with zero receipts (803),
• said “accusing me D3 is all I need to hear” (806),
• tried to herd “join Waluigi and myself” or be scummy (809/810),
• and policy-framed “lazy townies will be treated like wolves” (808).


That’s not solving, that’s bullying the thread into accepting your self-clear.


Do the actual work: for each of {Rohan, Gutsy, AnimePigeon} give two posts (links/timestamps) and the alignment reason.
Also, if Stargate is “a doc but could be wolf,” are you counter-claiming or just fear-mongering? Pick a lane.


Until you produce receipts, your push reads as “agenda first, evidence later,” and I’m not joining your prepackaged town list!

 

[The Big Boss]

@The Big Boss

TBB, confidence isn’t a flip.
You’ve now:
• called three people “wolf” with zero receipts (803),
• said “accusing me D3 is all I need to hear” (806),
• tried to herd “join Waluigi and myself” or be scummy (809/810),
• and policy-framed “lazy townies will be treated like wolves” (808).


That’s not solving, that’s bullying the thread into accepting your self-clear.


Do the actual work: for each of {Rohan, Gutsy, AnimePigeon} give two posts (links/timestamps) and the alignment reason.
Also, if Stargate is “a doc but could be wolf,” are you counter-claiming or just fear-mongering? Pick a lane.


Until you produce receipts, your push reads as “agenda first, evidence later,” and I’m not joining your prepackaged town list!

Not bullying, would love townies to join forces, but my death might be the only to unify the town.

 

[The Big Boss]

@Naomi_

 

[Gutsy]

“My death might be the only way to unify the town” is pure AtE. Unity comes from cases and flips, not self-martyrdom.
If you genuinely think your flip solves the game, then do the work now:
• If you flip town, who are the two wolves, and what posts make that true?
• If you flip wolf, who does it clear and who does it condemn, specifically?
No more vibes. Give receipts or drop the martyr act.

 

[Waluigi]

The last couple of pages of discussion have been far from productive.

@AnimePigeon

Did you see the persons who were murdered at night die and be revealed to be a certain role or power?

I did.

On night one wolves could have anticipated I was protected and on night two they killed someone who claimed to be powerful, in Haze who was a double voter. They also shot the town vigilante on night one, which was also the only night there were 2 kills, in a game full of vanilla townies.

Wolves tend to kill people who have, or are claimed to be powers. For obvious reasons, I claimed not to have a power, especially when I had questions about stargate even being a doctor.

I feel like a lot of these accusations would not withstand a few seconds of contemplation.

 

[Lucidus]

So far my suspicions remain largely the same, with less input happening from Rohan which I do find unusual considering he set up the rules and everything for this game in the first place, I would have expected him to be more involved. Busy? perhaps but non the less I find him suspicious.

There is plenty of time still let to go and find out more, but Gutsy and The big boss do not fill me with much hope currently. I feel there is a wolf between them. I am leaning towards the big boss as the wolf.

Stargate for me is absolutely sus. the sheer possibility of them being the doc is the only thing keeping me from voting straight away, but I am wondering how much usefulness that still has with few players remaining, leaving him for longer could result in more chances of us getting crippled.

Waluigi sits on the fence for me, Has a lot of good things to say, but the leadership of the game is always something to be concerned about, I am sure some people have the same reservations about me. It comes with being vocal. But it is also necessary.

Naomi - I am still unsure on this one, for whatever reason I still can't get a good read. I still don't feel there has been enough activity from this person to really know anything. This concerns me but I can see more activity is starting to come out so I will wait before making deductions.

Ekko - Same reason as above. Was a bit more active though


I think for me my current vote would go towards Stargate. Depending on how this vote turns out would depend on how future votes go as well imo

 

[Rohan]

claim your a townie and any powers you have or you will be called a wolf.

I have already claimed.

Rohan is very wolfie.

lays low, low post, accuses other.

act like a townie if your a town.

This post is incredibly wolfish. It is by accusing others that you can get a reaction/counter reply from them. This gives you a read on their alignment. You are basically saying with this post that you do not want to catch the wolves. Your accusations are also very vague and not targeted towards a specific person. The above post is a good example, who are you asking to claim?

You are also accusing other people and you say that is wolfish.

When I read your posts, I see a lot of fallacies which wolves tend to use a lot to derail the game.

 

[Lucidus]

I have already claimed.


This post is incredibly wolfish. It is by accusing others that you can get a reaction/counter reply from them. This gives you a read on their alignment. You are basically saying with this post that you do not want to catch the wolves. Your accusations are also very vague and not targeted towards a specific person. The above post is a good example, who are you asking to claim?

You are also accusing other people and you say that is wolfish.

When I read your posts, I see a lot of fallacies which wolves tend to use a lot to derail the game.

As much as I don't trust Rohan, he is correct regarding 'The Big Boss.' His accusations have been all over the place, a lot of them are quite literally 'If you accuse me, I will accuse you.' Let's take 'Gutsy's' post for example, he highlighted a few good points here. I pointed out how his votes seem to be following the crowd quite easily, and they change easily; who he votes for doesn't really matter to him since they are normally directed towards townie.

He had labelled quite a few people as wolf before, and is making claims such as, 'if you are not with us, you are against us' < Not in these exact words but its the same essence. This isn't good as I pointed out for several reasons.