[Game] Naruto Shippuden Mafia Game #43

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A great way to visualize the situation-

suppose you only guess a wolf each day. Right or wrong, and dont try to find people town.

Then, the current situation can look like this, from your chair-

You (town)
Player 2
Player 3
Player 4
Player 5
Player 6
Player 7
Player 8
Person you suspect of being a mafia.

This is just a visualization. If there are 5 townies, not including you, for a total of 6.

You have a 5 in 8 chance of accidentally guessing another townie is a wolf today.

That's a lot.

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But, what if you do some work first?

1. Collect all the claims, so someone who is obviously a town PR, you can mark them off as likely to still be innocent.

2. You check everyone's town reads and suspects all game, and try to identify people as being more or less likely of being a wolf.

3. You see if anyone can be cleared either by cop checks or just visually looking like a townie.

4. You check for pairing behavior and unpairing behavior (this is complicated, so I'll demonstrate that later, but for example, when Player A mixes up the names of Player B and Player C, Player A is unlikely to be mafia with both Player B and Player C.

Because wolves know who their partners are. And, see the vote tally yesterday, and the day before?

If someone is trying VERY hard to kill someone, and there are townies being destroyed instead, those 2 players are UNLIKELY to be wolves together.

Because wolves prefer to kill townies and dont want to lose a fellow wolf for no reason that early on.

These are gambles, but if they're correct, factoring that info in, can narrow down the wolves to the exact team today, right now.

Or rather, right after all that work is done.

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So if you do that work first, you can get to stuff like...... this (example)

You (town)
Player 2
- claimed PR that you think is real
Player 3- person cleared as town by the town PR
Player 4- very unlikely to be a wolf with your top suspect
Player 5 - very unlikely to be a wolf with your top suspect
Player 6
Player 7
Player 8
Person you suspect of being a mafia.

You see the difference?

And even if you were wrong about the person you suspect, the next 3 names should just be the mafia team.

And if you're right, 2 of the 3 blank names, should be the mafia team.

So instead of making a "5 in 8 likelihood of hitting town" guess that someone is a mafia, you can make a "3 in 4 likelihood of hitting mafia" guess that someone is mafia.

That's way, way better. Which is why I work so hard on finding townies and establishing claim info first, before I go off all half cocked and engage based solely on paranoia.

The process works better this way, visibly so, mathematically so.

It's got the best chance of working.

@Waluigi

Naomi didn’t bother responding before going inactive.

Yeah, okay.

That's unfortunate, the reason why i go for this, is if a wolf doesn't have a fake claim prepared, it can catch them off guard to suddenly be asked to claim.

One would hope a townie can just claim on the spot.

I will still wait and see if Naomi comes back, this is real life, people have jobs, people have families, and so on.

I don't want to go super duper hyper competitive for a casual game like this.

If you really wanted to break the mafia team's balls, you all agree to the plan ahead of time, and then bust people for being unable to claim.

I don't know if I wanna do that here, it's casual game, we didn't agree beforehand, etc.

But noted.
 

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Can you see, visually, why you take the more conservative approach, and gather all data, before moving forward, as above?

@Naomi_
@The Big Boss

I think it's pretty persuasive and it has a really strong track record because it just, visibly, is the better path forward.

You can see it with your own eyes how much better it should work.
 

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If Naomi doesn't claim within the hour, I'll do so and popcorn it to another name,

why does scum need info on me Xd i wonder if we do have serial killer now.

Are you still with us, Naomi?

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Also- one thing I want people to brace for, is that townies are going to find each other a little suspicious here.

We've been guessing wrong all game. It's natural that townies who voted for townies are going to look suspect to other townies.

It's important to stay calm, clear-headed, and rational.

It's okay if someone suspects you, it's not the end of the game,
or even their final decision. They can change their mind, don't overreact.

Speaking from experience-
Town often collapses and destroys itself if we don't proceed with caution, and concern that our fellow player might still be town anyway even if they guess us wrong.

It's still as I said yesterday- we have a lot of wrong answers crossed off now. It should be like shooting fish in a barrel to hit a mafioso today. There aren't many places to hide.

And every single time you guess a townie is town correctly, there's even fewer spaces for them to hide.
yeah was afk to make my meal.

@Waluigi

Naomi didn’t bother responding before going inactive.
i went to prepare my meal, i see the opportunist push that i went to go inactive on purpose.

really scummy.
 

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Let's give each other the benefit of the doubt, before we rush to judgment on eacjh other 1 hour into the day.

Whatcha got for claim, Naomi.
 

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remember no names, no flavors, just... what the role does, if anything.
 

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Town
1.the big boss
2.waluigi
3.ekko
4.kirikoe but sus
5.gutsy but sus

wolf
6.stargate
7.rohan
8. Animep
9. Naomi sus
 

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@Waluigi my color is teal green.

Alright.

I wish to clarify that I am a town power role, and have power usages on both night 1 and night 2.

I won't gain any further info or have any additional power uses, I'm out of powers.

On day 1, I asked the doctor to protect me.

On day 2, I said I didn't have any powers, so don't protect me. I took a gamble, because I wanted the mafia to think I had no powers.

I will reveal my information after everyone else claims.

My color is also teal, as mentioned at the game start.
 

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why does scum need info on me Xd i wonder if we do have serial killer now.


yeah was afk to make my meal.


i went to prepare my meal, i see the opportunist push that i went to go inactive on purpose.

really scummy.
What meal did you eat?

what is your claim?
 

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@Waluigi @Ekkologix

Town
1.the big boss
2.waluigi
3.ekko
4.kirikoe but sus
5.gutsy but sus

wolf
6.stargate
7.rohan
8. Animep
9. Naomi sus

I would like Rohan or Animepigeon to be the next claimants, yes. I sorta want people to claim in order of most suspicious to less suspicious, because it forces the mafia to commit to a lie, before the townies clarify.

(If my reads are correct. That's the premise behind asking AnimeP and Rohan next.)

What meal did you eat?

what is your claim?

I do love the idea of solving a mafia game based on the food someone chose to eat outside of the game.

If that somehow worked, it would be very amusing indeed.
 

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I took some heavy medication due to my physical therapy causing me pain, and the drowsy effect is kicking in.

May I please be excused while I sleep? It's after 10pm and I have the kiddos in the morning.

I would love to continue but I'm afraid it's getting quite dizzy in here.
 

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2-shot doc. Abstained N1, targeted Ekko as requested N2.

Thank you.

May I get support in asking for Animepigeon to claim, and after that, Rohan?

@Stargate18

I'm going to be afk for several hours, so I could use the assistance from everyone here.

Or, if Rohan shows up first, go rohan next. Doesnt particularly matter to me.

Rohan's been a game long sus from Big Boss and I would like to assist Boss's solve for that reason.
 

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I took some heavy medication due to my physical therapy causing me pain, and the drowsy effect is kicking in.

May I please be excused while I sleep? It's after 10pm and I have the kiddos in the morning.

I would love to continue but I'm afraid it's getting quite dizzy in here.
go sleep, and have a good rest.

day phase is like 48hrs. you have a lot time.
 

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2-shot doc. Abstained N1, targeted Ekko as requested N2.

Also, I am out of shots.

I require no protection tonight, in fact, if I died, it would be better, because then all my info becomes mechanically confirmed.
 
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