[Game] AnimeBase Mafia Players Game!!! #29

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Sure Sagebee could have had a red check on Poison but reading back on his posts. But after Poison you were his next target.
Sagebee's targets were in that message.
He had Beeboat town, this is solving Beeboat's alignament for good, and Poison scum. SK is scum was added idk why but he as godfather could not be red peeked.
My activity speaks for me. and this gane is truly madness from so many abilities, switches, backups etc, i am dizzy by these.

Ah. and i upset Sagebee after i showed him that is illogical to have Poison as scum based on how was she treated by SK and Angelus.
He flipped his read, and said it many times.
He didn't check me, he would scold me for being idiot if he would know for sure i am villager and would not scum read me.
 

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Sagebee didn't have a theory, he received the alignament cop role, if you look at his flip he could take a mod killed player role and Luke was modkilled.
Luck is a thing in mafia, Sagebee is lucky to always receive cool roles.
I am sure he red peeked Poison.

Also, town is often wrong, the fact i was wrong doesn't change my AI.


Aether is mafia because Ansa saud so, and i will not vote elsewhere today.

Maybe my scumhunting methods are not always giving results but i was always suspecting Aether and finding that VC showed me how he sticks out.

i wish to see your educated guess about who is the remaining mafia in this game and if they are 1 or 2.
You choose to follow Ansa, yes?

Well I am putting my faith in Sagebee. He was scum reading you and you were next in line for him after Poison.
The way scum has played this game. Trying to distance themselves from each other. I could see it being a plan all along.
You gave so many points of how
" scum won't do this with Poison."
"Can you see Poison doing this in the scum chat?"
"Can you see Poison planning this?"

How did that turn out?
She ended up being scum and all those points that you said were not possible ended up being true anyway.

Ansa in the last day phase also had the same theory about you. He's dead as well now.
Although I quite don't understand why he'd vote for Aether.

Your argument against SK being staged makes much more sense now.
You didn't vote him in Day Phase 3. You voted Toujo and then unvoted.
All that vote shifting at the end saved SK.
But by the next phase when others had decided as well that they needed to settle between you 2. SK got more heat and was to be lynched but it failed. Buying another extra phase.
Were it not for the kill at SK at night. We would have another phase of you vs him with the party that was left alive automatically gaining town cred.

Your reason to vote Sagebee waa also shallow last phase.
You voted him based on typo and implied he slipped up and did TMI.
 

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His is reading you as Mafia and unless you and sk staged your argument thingy( which is highly unlikely) I can only see a cornered scum trying to save themselves.
My argument with SK comes from his first game when he randed scum and is the wolf SK against town me and continued in 2 other recent games and this is the 4th.
This is the last argument, i will take care to never have such interactions.

It was his bad luck i always was and am town when he was/is wolf.
 

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I wish to remind you scum knows who is scum and who is town and can construct nice cases because they are informed. A player with just 4 suspects in a game with 22 players is calling he coasted in fact.
And you see him genuine :/
What you are saying can also be applied be to you or anyone else in this game.
This is very WIFOM.
 

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Your reason to vote Sagebee waa also shallow last phase.
You voted him based on typo and implied he slipped up and did TMI.
At least lynch me for being wrong because i am never wolf. Policy lynch is a safe thing in mafia to do, or so i heard ...

If i wanted Sagebee lynched i would act stronger for it. Do you think everyone who voted Poison is pro village?

This is my last time saying i would never allow SK to talk like this to me if we were wolves. I am no one's toy. I am still angry for all the other times when he considered is safe to insult me and was always town read for how brave he was.
I am very dissapointed about his playstyle and i will play here only in the games where he will not play. This is a promise.

I see you don't read my posts, i explained today that me going after SK in day 2 is a clear sign we are not mates.
 

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in a 17 players game there are 4 scum.

We can't have at 22 players 4 scum. I think we have 5 and we may have a serial killer if SK and Angelus were not killed by town vig.
Town is in bad shape i think.
I disagree.
5 scum would be too much on top of a serial killer + Lyncher/jester.

If I were to balance a game. I'd add 1 scum for every 5 players. It can ofcourse vary depending how strong the roles are.
But if you have see the scum roles flipped so far they were super strong. Specially the godfather one. That was overpowered as hell.
 

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Your argument against SK being staged makes much more sense now.
You didn't vote him in Day Phase 3. You voted Toujo and then unvoted.
All that vote shifting at the end saved SK.
Did you read all the posts SK made to discredit me for that unvote? Did you read how aggressive he was?
When on Earth would he push me in that way if he didn't want me dead?
 

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I disagree.
5 scum would be too much on top of a serial killer + Lyncher/jester.

If I were to balance a game. I'd add 1 scum for every 5 players. It can ofcourse vary depending how strong the roles are.
But if you have see the scum roles flipped so far they were super strong. Specially the godfather one. That was overpowered as hell.
Yes but the town back up roles and abilities are also too powerfull.

Anyway we have at least 2 more scum and you focusing on me looses the game for town.

In the world where i live in, imagine it, the world where i am villager, who is mafia, and who is SK?
 

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At least lynch me for being wrong because i am never wolf. Policy lynch is a safe thing in mafia to do, or so i heard ...

If i wanted Sagebee lynched i would act stronger for it. Do you think everyone who voted Poison is pro village?

This is my last time saying i would never allow SK to talk like this to me if we were wolves. I am no one's toy. I am still angry for all the other times when he considered is safe to insult me and was always town read for how brave he was.
I am very dissapointed about his playstyle and i will play here only in the games where he will not play. This is a promise.

I see you don't read my posts, i explained today that me going after SK in day 2 is a clear sign we are not mates.
You voted for him, didn't you? And for a very shallow reason at that.

And I already said it. If not you, the other scum could be Ryu. He's also getting on the Aether wagon just like that.

Poison said much of the same things. Trying to play on people's emotions. Sorry I don't have the trust anymore.
 

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You voted for him, didn't you? And for a very shallow reason at that.

And I already said it. If not you, the other scum could be Ryu. He's also getting on the Aether wagon just like that.

Poison said much of the same things. Trying to play on people's emotions. Sorry I don't have the trust anymore.
i don't ask for trust, i need your head to think coldly.

One mate under the bus for both SK and Angelus is enough.
Me, whom Angelus was affraid to read villager and denied it when Beeboat asked, i was the townie pushed all game.
And very aggresive.

How come you don't see this?
 

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I already said why I town read Aether.

Why do you force your way of thinking on me?

You were doing the same when I wanted Poison lynched.
yes. For his genuine reads. Dude risked nothing all game, played safe and invested little time but he is your hero.

no, i don't force anything, i try to make with you a conversation.

I said i agree with the policy lynch for wrong reads. I was wrong, where you never wrong in mafia?
 

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Hello,

1.First of all in my humble opinion emotional appeal and emotional manipulation should not be used among friends under pretty much any circumstances. And by that I don't mean saying you're busy.
There is no more good words left in my heart for this. From an objective perspective I believe it's weak play and on a personal level I feel it's foul.
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2.Secondly, the host should never be forced to write lies, that is not alright in my view.

Just to clarify Roles for Kira game distributed via RNG
I do understand that without this, Sk's role would be exposed. But I believe we should not have a world where the host needs to lie to protect such a thing. What I am saying is that this error should not have existed in the first place.
The host should not have to lie.

- All the 'MOD-Killed' roles. Except Luk'es role which was mod killed for claiming, the others have no reason provided.
This implies 'Mod-Kill" is not an actual Mod kill and has to do more maybe with 'Mod Kill' being related to a role who has the ability to 'mod kill'- a role who is considered as somewhat of a mod in our community.

In a world where the town has to discern among truth and lie in their fellow player's words, I personally believe the HOST has the role of being the pillar of FACTS.
Writing stories about players is one thing, playing with the words 'Mod-Killed' and 'RNG' is another.
And I don't mean to insult by any means. It's an amazing game and I appreciate all the effort our host has put into it. He is very considerate and has shown a great wish to help us players out. Ex: making the initial post with the EoD days shows commitment to this game.
But please do read my opinion through Houtarou and please understand I don't mean harm.


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3.Now about our game.

The one role, we know was modkilled for sure, was LUKe's role.
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[Passive - Psychological warfare] - Ted acts in a threatening manner to intimidate and disturb those around him into getting what he wants. He must always reply to people quoting and tagging him in a very aggressive manner, or he'll be mod-blocked the following night.

[Passive - The Fool] - A tactic only possible due to his reputation as an unpredictable, dangerous player. If he's successfully killed, the write-up will show a failed kill and his death will be delayed for a full cycle. However, he'd be indeed dead and may not post, vote, nor use any action.

[Active - Keen Perspective] - Whether it's as a 'detective' or whatever, Ted has shown proficiency to able read people correctly even with insufficient data. As a result, each night, you may target a player and discern their alignment. You will receive results in the form of [Innocent] or [Guilty].

[Active - Listen to me] - Every odd day, Ted may post a message to the thread through the host. It will be posted alongside the lynch write-up.

[Active - Adamant] - Ted refuses to be persuaded or change his mind when he believes in something. Ted may force a player to vote target of his choice. If they refused, they'll be role-blocked for a cycle. It'll not work during Mylo/Lylo. [1-shot]

Wincon -
Eliminate all threats to Town "


"[Active - Adamant] - Ted refuses to be persuaded or change his mind when he believes in something. Ted may force a player to vote target of his choice. If they refused, they'll be role-blocked for a cycle. It'll not work during Mylo/Lylo. [1-shot]"
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From this I will easily assume that when I was asked to vote Michelle first and then Poison, it was Sagebee who did it.
On top, I remember that after I asked the person to come to light, he started openly asking people to vote Poison.

I will take things at face value and stop overthinking.
From the vote choice he asked me to do and from the amount of 'shade' and focus he was giving to Michelle, I will make the assumption that he not only had a red peek on Poison but on Michelle also.

VOTELYNCH: Michelle


Now I am not interested to find more arguments against her role. I am not interested in doublechecking and triple checking.
If you, whoever you are see this as me behaving wolfy, in taking my top town core and putting her for elimination, then please go ahead and vote me.
 
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i don't ask for trust, i need your head to think coldly.

One mate under the bus for both SK and Angelus is enough.
Me, whom Angelus was affraid to read villager and denied it when Beeboat asked, i was the townie pushed all game.
And very aggresive.

How come you don't see this?
I am thinking coldly. Hence why I am here.
I took back my vote in Day 1 against Poison due to her irl situation and I didn't wanna add stress to it.
She wouldn't have been lynched if people kept being emotional about the posts.

Distancing has proved to be good tactic so far and considering scum chat is a thing I don't put it past SK to make this his plan.

Poison said the same things.
One of her main reasons was her being top wagon every day was a good enough reason to prove she was town.
 

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Yes but the town back up roles and abilities are also too powerfull.

Anyway we have at least 2 more scum and you focusing on me looses the game for town.

In the world where i live in, imagine it, the world where i am villager, who is mafia, and who is SK?
Let's just agree to disagree here about our thoughts on what a setup should be like.

I told you what that world looks like to me.
You and Ryu.
One of you is the Serial Killer and one of you is scum.
I think you are the scum but it could be the other way around for all I know.
 
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