The towniest townie to town coming through!
Can't say I have any desire to read these 14 pages. Wasn't expecting so much when the day only started a few hours ago but ah well.
Actually I like this welcome post. Just don't complaining because it makes you look lazy thus Scummy.
I Amon page 2. GTH read on Michelle: she's good.
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Michelle had a nice starting. But when she suspected Rej because he wanted to know about Oracle role I gradually losing the nice feeling on her. It because her reasoning to vote Rej pretty unreasonable. She also didn't answering my question. But because she has retracted her vote on Rej I slowly regain a good feeling on her.
The audacity that Red has to straight up ask for a claim makes her possibly the towniest player in the game right now.
Yes while I can agree that the strategy is useful for town but the claim she made that she's vigilante is not appropriate at the current time. If she's truly a vigilate she has just inviting mafia but if she's lying she wants doc to waste their ability on her.
I hate this post and I don't know why. It screams bad at all angles for me.
Can you elaborate on it further. How's that post looked bad?
That would depend on how the sheeping is done. Some sheep votes look fine, others are terrible.
I agree with this and I think TSQ's playing psychology game there. I don't agree with the notion that town is more likely to sheep/create/jump into bandwagon. Previous games have disprove this.
Rej is all over the motherfucking game board. He's got his fat ass sitting right on top of it
Give him a town lean.
I also think Rej is town here.
Wait, why can't mafia do that? Did the rules state so?
I found this post shows reasonable side of Dragomir. So I like it.
Alright, I've caught up. Hammock looks better in my eyes now.
I wanna lynch SK. Let's do it.
The will be long drama started here.
He milked the hell out of mechanical talk to contribute to the game. It's been his main talking point. There's no game solving from him.
I disagree when you said "it's his main talking point". If I take 100 people into here and asking them whether they agree/not agree with Dragomir's statement, majority of them are more likely than not will disagree with your statement. Same can be said to this statement from you "He milked the hell out of mechanical talk". I don't think SK's intention here to make himself look contributive. For me it just someone that just doing his job returning the answer.
The part that I can agree with you is this "There's no game solving from him." I'm also aware of that eventhough I didn't see its too alarming. SK voted TSQ from an agreement with Lukundo's reasoning, TMI. So why you didn't question Lukundo also?
There was nothing wrong with Rej's question. The Oracle role is a weird one because it has so many variants. For example, the MU one(posted by Ansa) and the one in the SirDante guide are not the same. It's confusing. Stop suspecting him for that.
I personally would like to know how the Oracle in this game works too. Whoever has it, please tell us.
We in the same book here regarding Rej.
Mass claiming is retarded. Let's not do it, please.
In this sense actually you're in the same page as SoulKiller. He also disagreed with the idea but before you have solved your issue with SK you have called him scum because he's involved in mechanical talk with Red. He just merely explaining to Red why mass claim is bad.
There are more suspicious point on Red than SK.
@Rej when you wake up, come vote SK with me.
Tbh I dislike this kind of attitude. You can ask someone to follow you voting someone only if you have enough solid proof that your target is scum. That's why I asking you about your move.
He was the last person that posted before me, and it was made right when I posted so I knew he was online at the time thus by asking for a rundown from him, I'd get an immediate response.
I give you +5 scummy points for this post. Use them well.
I just have one question for ya, asking for a mass claim is a townie act or scum act? If its not a scum act, why's that?
What does that post of mine have to do with Rej?
You misunderstood my post. When I said I'm on page 14, that means that was where I was at when developing the scum read on you. My suspicion didn't come out of page 14, meaning that my reasons weren't because of something you said on page 14. I just said page 14 like a checkpoint.
The fact that you actually went out of your way to get this defensive when you had no idea what my reason was is a really bad look. You're preemptively defending yourself over a suspicion that contained no case. If you don't mind SK, could you explain to me why a townie would need to do that? All I see is a wolf getting jumpy. The sarcasm doesn't help your situation either.
What are you talking about? I didn't give any reasons. I haven't been trying to buddy Rej. Don't assume that.
You raise a fair point. It would have been mulling if you were trying to talk to it to everyone instead of just Red.
Hey now, don't try to deflect to Red. No, she wasn't milking it. While she talked about it a lot, she also was hunting. Something that you did not do. That's my main beef with you. You talked mechanically but didn't do any hunting. Red did it. That's not the only thing pointing in Red's favor. Did you claim vig for no reason? No, she did. Did you ask ppl to claim out of nowhere early in the game? No, she did. Did you follow up those claim requests with reasoning that make sense and explain the thought process? No, she did.
Red is a billboard town. I do not need to explain that.
How you can be so sure that Red is hunting role on the behalf of town and not Scum? Can't you see a problem when she claimed vig? She could be fishing for Real vigilante to come out. If Red didn't die in NP2/NP3 she is confirmed lying.
She's going into a lengthy explanation to justify her strategy could mean something. People will claim when the appropriate time comes but not willy nilly mass claim without any reason. Mass claiming can confuse town but not Scum.
@SoulKiller you quoted my post asking Rej for a rundown, asking me why I was trusting of him. I explained that it was because he posted before me not because I trusted him. I wasn't talking about you.
The thing I see here you are supporting Rej without any condition, without question, with no problem. That's what I guess what SK could thinking of. If you're scum its because you've alignment info and you are trying to buddy with Rej. I think that's how SK sees it.
I'd like to ask, why did you feel the need to make a read list on every single player in the game?
Why he can't? For what reason you limit him?
Dissect those reasons and prove their flimsiness for me.
First part, You stated "Page 14 SK looks bad". In the page 14 there's only one post from SK. That post was answering Red's post. So in what way that post looked bad? That's flimsy pov, flimsy idea, flimsy impression.
Second part, about hunting. In what way that SK was called out for not doing a hunt? I think when SK started to look at you and Rej. He actually was trying to get to know what actually the meaning behind the Closeness of Dragomir with Rej. T/T or W/T or W/W.
And then this one,
How you can be so sure that Red is hunting role on the behalf of town and not Scum? Can't you see a problem when she claimed vig? She could be fishing for Real vigilante to come out. If Red didn't die in NP2/NP3 she is confirmed lying.
She's going into a lengthy explanation to justify her strategy could mean something. People will claim when the appropriate time comes but not willy nilly mass claim without any reason. Mass claiming can confuse town but not Scum.
When you came out with your reasoning to vote SK I found it your reasoning isn't convincing enough. Feels weak. I don't think Scum SK is that easy to get caught.
Plus there's other issues that you're not addresse properly, case in point; Red's mass claim strategy.
1. Rej was all over the place. He got loose and was just throwing shit out. He wasn't carefully constructing his posts like I remember from a scum Rej. He was doing that in the Champ game and the recent trad game on TB. Here, he is not being careful.
2. Rej folded like a sheet of paper under pressure. He got pissed(coming off very genuine too) and just stopped giving a ****. This is very town like behavior coming from Rej. I've seen him act like this so many times as town; however, as a wolf, he acts cool under pressure and doesn't become a hot head.
You should unvote him.
This is interesting to know.
I think SK is town now. Unvote
His responses to my posts and TSQ's. He made some valid points against the latter and sounded genuinely frustrated with me.
Hmm I like the progress I see here. This's very town indicative for Drago. Even though I saw a sign of a likely effort/attempt of twisting and spinning a point in his conversation with SK and also a disagreement with his point/idea about Red I'm town leaning Dragomir for now.
@Rej