[Game] Death Note Mafia #21 - Game Thread

[Rej]

Game has a solid 3KPN unless both mafia members, the SK or the vigi is killed.

There may even be 4KPN depending on if we’re saying the Mafia can kill individually.

Okay I don't like this contradiction here. First Luku acts all professional then he proposes that mafia can kill individually. No, don't like this.

Yes we have solid 3KPN. I just couldn't understand Sagebee's thinking. He always said odd thing.

Maybe he's not paid attention enough.

Ansa throwing shades, interesting.
Based on this early game I can imagine a universe where Luku and Ansa are scum and they try to townclear each other in their own kind of PoE.

 

[Rej]

Everyone is scum? I know Im not and I can be more than half of the people here arent either. Are you claiming to know who is and isn't scum? Are you claiming that you happen to be scum?

Red in her element, I like it.

 

[Rej]

AL is only throwing shades, I know town AL is also doing it but it is worrying me.

its amusing how you forgot about it even after so many games
@All_Red are you scum??

this is very contradictive to my stance where I would TR Red at that point.

Why do you consider Raunix your partener?

I don't like this question from Mich. It is super superficial. She did it last game and she wouldn't throw it. Also in a metaphoric sense I feel that we all have to be partners in order to find scum.

 

[Rej]

hmm all red posting her good old tactics of writing filler post.

Anything u wanna say or r ya trumpin around ?

I didn't like Shanks follow up post here. It is again a shady tactic of self deflection and projections.
All_Red said enough you can read her energy you can read inbetween lines, at this point I expected more follow up from you, not more follow up from Red.

seems like it

what do you think of others??

mhh, a baby treatment to Shanks, I note it

 

[Rej]

your reasoning is meh but lets see

@TheLukundo did you find anything by voting ansa??

@All_Red I've made some posts and its enough to make a read out of me so what do you think about me??

one of ALs better posts

I wanted to see if there's any TMI vibe or not

Sherlock, good one, a nicely explained stance.



After reading the DP in detail I can narrow down that both Raunix and Sagebee are just concerned uninformed majority.

I will narrow down the untownier people to: Michelle, Shanks, AL, Ansa, Luku
The low posters are ofc untowny, but since low posting is NAI and the DP is long they will receive null reads for now.

 

[Rej]

Vote lynch Shanks

I wanna see a bit more.

 

[Sagebee]

feeling so rusty man

so answer these for me

what was so confusing about gunsmith??

the setups says mafia has 2 goons = vanilla so how did you come to the conclusion of 4 night kills??

the mechanics were made obvious by host so what was the point of all these mechanical talking??

@Raunix @Sagebee @Ansatsuken @Michelle

deeathnote? Mechanics isnt obvious to me that's why I need clarification

 

[Sagebee]

I never said it's the case, I meant it would be unfair if it were the case.
Also I will be busy for the next 2 hours. I just wanted to point out that I felt uneasy about the 4KPN theory some people had here and that it's wrong.

How are you sure it's wrong or you assuming it's wrong since it would make the game go to fast. Which makes sense I'm assuming the killing roles might have restrictions maybe even and odd killing nights. But if not this games going turn into a massacre quick.

 

[Sagebee]

Aha. Officer

She would walk around the officer.

Your saying that the Sk would be at a disadvantage because he is alone and can kill once? Isnt that what makes the Sk role so much more challenging but just as hard to capture? Plus this realization of yours: why is it relevant? Why should how hard this scum has it to win be relvant to us officers. Unless you sympathize with them? Do you officer? Do you?

Well sk besides being lynched also runs the risk of being killed by viglante or mafia. Way I see it comes down in these 3 roles who can find who first in the night phase. Giving mafia a slight advantage since it's two of them. So sk still has to fear being targeted by 3 potential targets every night.

 

[Sagebee]

I am an officer, oh yeah and I wanna find Kira that bastard.

It is challenging but the SK has the comfort of being uninformed, he doesn't have things like TMI. And SK's are often having some kind of tool that allows them to confirm as town. In this game it is the role who identifies cannibals. The SK can be identified as vig. Also he is RB immune.

Its just that mafia and SK should have the same killing power.
That's why having 2 equal mafia roles in a two man mafia is super balanced for mafia.

But imho this is resolved and we spin circles if we talk about this. Right now it is balanced. Mafia will quickly gain information and town will remain quite dumb. Town can turn this into their favour by being very inquisitive this game, especially in the D2/D3 switch which might be the core of the setup again.

I think its stated no flavor claiming in this game.

 

[Sagebee]

Arent we all partners now, comrad? Unless you dont group yousrself with us...

She would walk up to Michelle and look her dead in the eyes.

Last time you said that you were scum and you used that move as a scheme so saying that isnt a good look.

 

[Sagebee]

As for my reads I'm most sussed at quoet players and players who seem to try too hard to blend in but can see they arent actually contributing. Or trying to push the game forward.

Only player so far that's really caught my attention is how casual all red and is messing around which would be acceptable in a regular first day phase but with this game phase with people dying much quicker don't have that luxury.

Still not certain only one sussed by so far and since we don't have the luxury not to lynch we need to be even more careful each phase who we push lynches on.

 

[Sagebee]

For the time being since I'm forced to lynch my place holder lynch will be Allred since shes the one I suss the most so far.

vote lynch: @All_Red

 

[AL_sama]

AL is only throwing shades, I know town AL is also doing it but it is worrying me.

throwing shades'?? I was quite open

this is very contradictive to my stance where I would TR Red at that point.

your stance not mine

I will narrow down the untownier people to: Michelle, Shanks, AL, Ansa, Luku

now this is you throwing shades at me

now give some proper reads rej

 

[Ansatsuken]

Okay I don't like this contradiction here. First Luku acts all professional then he proposes that mafia can kill individually. No, don't like this.

Ansa throwing shades, interesting.
Based on this early game I can imagine a universe where Luku and Ansa are scum and they try to townclear each other in their own kind of PoE.

How's that post reading as me throwing shade to Sagebee?

Where's the part that looked like I'm throwing a shade?

I read Sagebee as town(the feels his post giving to me) and now you believe I'm shading him. That doesn't make sense. Bro, Arso Ansatsuken is the definition of shading if you want to believe it. He read Michelle as town early but gradually throwing shade on Michelle(using TMI and so called clue on her). You should know better where to use word "shading" in this game Rej.



sagebee is just like that. He likes to say something in an odd/less understandable way. Not because he's trying to play with words but because he seems not paying attention or couldn't get his thinking to work better.

Based on this early game I can imagine a universe where Luku and Ansa are scum and they try to townclear each other in their own kind of PoE.

You need to work your reading Rej. Michelle believed the same thing with me in the previous game. She believed luk and me could be one team but the flipped speak differently.

And I've no intention to town clear luk as I believe luk is not going to stop scum reading me at all.

if you asking me my honest opinion on luk he's gradually creeping into scum territory. I don't like how he's not trying to understand my information and then talking something strange.

 

[AL_sama]

After reading the DP in detail I can narrow down that both Raunix and Sagebee are just concerned uninformed majority.

I agree with the sage part but not with the raunix one

 

[Ansatsuken]

Michelle also interest me. Michelle in this game is unlike Michelle in the previous game. Lack in interaction and enthusiasm. Why you need to change your town approach if you're town? You just make it difficult for people to read you.

I'm unable to town reading you because you're not trying to establish it very convincingly.

Maybe this post can motivates you Michelle.

 

[Ansatsuken]

I wanted to see if there's any TMI vibe or not

This is reasonable.

 

[Rej]

throwing shades'?? I was quite open

your stance not mine

now this is you throwing shades at me

now give some proper reads rej

I think my catchup reads were more proper than your whole contribution to the game

Where's the part that looked like I'm throwing a shade?

Maybe he's not paid attention enough.

^ that's throwing a shade

 

[Ansatsuken]

I think my catchup reads were more proper than your whole contribution to the game


^ that's throwing a shade

How?

So if I said "he's not paid attention" that means I read him as a potential scum and not other aspect of that player??