[Game] SK - League Of Legends Mafia Game Thread! Fight Or Be Forgotten!! #15

[Houtarou]

woke up shit is going down, odd vs houtaru is VvW, both Odd's FoS is opportunistic aswell as Houtaru's push's
that way I can't dissect who is scum or nah, but I gonna take a rewatch at the people commenting on this battle.
For now let me do this pressure vote:

VoteLynch: @Alice in Noodleland

Honestly, I can't pin down who to lynch between you and odd. Who do you think are scum? you don't really need to give an explanation

 

[Houtarou]

Among the inactive players, the first player we should look at is Morte, and for more than he's inactive. Why did you discard him from the list?

Also, I agree it's a great approach; scums could be a little inactive in the earlier stages, and we can target one of them, but the same goes to players who meaninglessly going with the flow, without contribution, like yourself. From i've seen so far, you are the embodiment of being present yet absent.

I wouldn't bother with inactives much cuz SK is a strict host who might mod kill the inactive or sub them out in one go. All you can do is tag them

 

[Kyte_]

Among the inactive players, the first player we should look at is Morte, and for more than he's inactive. Why did you discard him from the list?

Also, I agree it's a great approach; scums could be a little inactive in the earlier stages, and we can target one of them, but the same goes to players who are meaninglessly going with the flow, without contribution, like yourself. From i've seen so far, you are the embodiment of being present yet absent.

@Ansatsuken I meant to reply on your post that's above the one I quoted, actually. Sorry for that. And I agree with Luffy that it's meaningless to go after players who will either be mod-killed or subbed out next phase, but I wanted to entertain your approach that i don't think is consistent when you included me in the list and discarded the most inactive out of all.

 

[Michelle]

Scum posting very little is not something that rarely happened in mafia. At least one member will play like that

So here we have Corazon, Alice, Kyte, Sagebee.

I think for now I ruled out Alice and Kyte

So You chose Corazon but what is your opinion on Sagebee? He's too quite.

I have my eyes on Sagebee and I am waiting for a reason, his previous 2 games he played different. I need more posts from him.

 

[Corazon]

Wew, y'all tough on a ninja, it was Friday night, stuff happens lol

I'd say the 3 players I'm most interested rn is Odd, Oreki and Michelle for one reason or another.

Odd - I'm not sure if he's scum/town but he's definitely trying to provoke Oreki to see his reaction and iss working it seems lol. He's going out of his way to focus on one specific player which is odd ( excuse that lol ) considering iss the first DP. Either you're a townie who could perform actions before this phase started and looked into his role or you're scum and know he's townie. Otherwise you're jus shooting in the dark and that's not gonna help us find scum, especially if Oreki is townie.

Oreki - I wouldn't say he's being defensive as he does make a valid point, we can't role claim/hint so we have to make a proper defense to prevent ourselves from getting lynched. That said, turning around and then trying to lynch Odd doesn't look good, it seems like a desperation move and if anything makes you look more suspicious lol.

Michelle - Gave a few reads before but nothing major. Once Ansa pointed out you're playing it safe and giving reads jus for the sake of it, you turned your attention to my lack of a post last night and used that as a reason to vote for me, that's sus af and not a good reason to try and get me lynched as I stated above, it was Friday night. Even that vote seemed like something you did jus for the sake of it.

These are the 3 I'm looking at atm, Rej was trying something similar to Odd early on but, he's seems to have deviated from that approach atm, not sure why doe.

 

[Kyte_]

I literally watched you do that to Red and now you're doing it to Kyte, you can't stick to one story

I'd be very impressed if you're a scum who has just given me a ticket to the graveyard, once you die. LOL

 

[Houtarou]

Oreki - I wouldn't say he's being defensive as he does make a valid point, we can't role claim/hint so we have to make a proper defense to prevent ourselves from getting lynched. That said, turning around and then trying to lynch Odd doesn't look good, it seems like a desperation move and if anything makes you look more suspicious lol.

I voted him cuz he often goes with pushes like that as scum, I just recently played a game with where he was scum and he was like that there too

 

[Houtarou]

@Kyte_ who are you planning to vote?

 

[Elmage G Ace]

Would like to get your contributions @Conspirator. ^_^ Also, what are your reads @Alice in Noodleland

 

[Kyte_]

@Kyte_ who are you planning to vote?

I don't know, honestly. There are definitely people I'm wary of but I don't know yet. Also still waiting for @Alice in Noodleland to answer my question.

 

[Alice in Noodleland]

I don't know, honestly. There are definitely people I'm wary of but I don't know yet. Also still waiting for @Alice in Noodleland to answer my question.

What was your question again? Spare me some data.. You can laugh.. But im really trying to get a signal. XD

 

[Alice in Noodleland]

Would like to get your contributions @Conspirator. ^_^ Also, what are your reads @Alice in Noodleland

My read is that seeing you still playing consistently.. Im town leaning you for now. Usually you play bad as a Mafia like me.

And since when did Ansatsuken count the player posts as part of his game reading?

 

[Alice in Noodleland]

Got a good signal.


@Michelle maybe i used the wrong word what i meant to say really is that you cam change your playstyle according to your faction. Valid also for Houtarou, all Rhed and Poison.


@Rej what is that vote? Really?

 

[ScarletCelestial]

Your right, guilty till proven innocent.

Rej - town - the only town who I dont have the best reason for town. Thier posts and overall engagement with others is quite townie. Only reason for my town placement in him. Toenie rating 6/10
ScarletCelestial - town - placed lots of info upon arrival, questioned and stated lots of overall great info, if you want to know what she posted that is quite townie, search her in thread, im sure you'll come to the same conclustion. Townie rating 9/10
Kyte - town - their push on me is town, i doubt wolf would try to lynch a target like me( im not seen as scum by many), taking a controversial stand agaisnt me. I dont think mafia will put that much attention/ effort to lynch a target as controversal as me, or atleast be the head of the train. 8/10

Turns out I only have a total of 3 most likely scum, i miscounted saying 5.

Couldn't the same be said of Michelle, in the case of Kyte?

 

[Kyte_]

What was your question again? Spare me some data.. You can laugh.. But im really trying to get a signal. XD

I was wondering if you've acted on NP0. It's not even close to an accusation here, since the write-up so far is controversial, but i'd like to know.

 

[Alice in Noodleland]

Rej vote on me look like trying to divert whoever getting the most attention asn.

 

[Poison]

I'm starting my ISOing with, Michelle, well I'll be quoting every post, so that it would be a little helpful for you guys if you wanna ISO them later on.

Spoiler: All the posts

Hello everyone, welcome to all new members

nice try, cool new name

no sir, you are not new anymore

what exactly happened with Kayn here?

You played the first game too when every faction had powers. I remember few nights where no one died. So is too early to be sure about it.

explain please

i liked Rej's answer at this vote.

so you think there could be between 4 or 6 scum

there are 14 champions
with or without the Great General SK is pointing out?
In the first game we had a similar problem with numbers. I need to check what happened back then.

i hope so too Alice

we need to take count of these ideas

we didn't play long enough to know meta. Is better to think we don't know much. You also can search posts and read and judge yourself. I don't want to divert attention from this game.

guessing doesn't help town in mafia.
We need solid reasons

10 pm at me.
I'll go to sleep and see you in around 8 hours.

Good morning, catching up
i see we still have zero posters

i never played Lol too but i know from our first game here that we don't need flavour knowledge

that was a scum strategy once in a game here, to like all posts. I don't have big suspicions on Naomi because she liked your posts but i will watch her closely.

you played with me too, isn't it? where are my likes ?

why are you so quick in giving and taking back reads? I try to understand your reasoning but is hard.

took out fluff from the posts.
Can you explain why do you think so?

i will go search on the first game for the townies = 14 plus or including the general

yes. We can just hope to have the same scum numbers.

look at the countdown, tomorow may be a little late.
We need you to post.

I think he wasn't controlled previously but he is now by Darkin beast, which is bad if we think at your theory of him switching from town to scum. I wonder if this can be undone somehow, to remake him a good one.

I hoped you will play Ansa, glad to see you though

No one will claim it lol
We have to find this new Tigger by playing and reasoning.

Good luck ^^

Lately i realised she just do this no matter AI. Is still early to label her villa or scum. And i will watch her.

(Tigger is haunting me too. Didn't play here since unfortunately)

For now i have few town leans, Rej, Houtarou and maybe Odd (plays in town meta, concise and in solving mode).
I feel like Ansa coming late yet starting to contribute also leans town.
Scumvibes from Corazon who is fluff posting, his post #177 is still a good idea to point out so maybe he is just slow starting this time and Elmage who promised to come back and post but didn't return yet. Nothing strong enough to vote rn.
Null on everyone else.

They are posting something not like some lurkers. Is easy to accuse the players who think at the game of scumsplips but they take the heat and who's not posting at all is under the radar.
The setup is not easy and so many talking about it is not anymore AI.

I played with Rej and for now he looks like in his town meta.

i didn't play with him as scum, nor with you. This didn't stop me to townread you correctly in few games.
Also i didn't said he is lock town for me.

non posters will be replaced or modkilled, i would focus on who already posted, the possibility to have all scum inactives is very low.
Lynching inactives is not a townish trait Red -_-

Had a busy afternoon just came home and catched up.



@All_Red if i change my name with yours i can say almost the same about you. So are you scumreading me for what are you doing too?
The difference between us is that "getting the ball rolling" with a random lynch like you try to do since the game start is not my style of playing so i don't vote so easy.
You extract around 4-5 townreads (from what i remember) and all the rest IS scum. Can you explain why do you think so?

Can you please do more than just skimm?

And All_Red is a girl.

The last sentence is not correct. Everybody can be scum till proven town.

Please proove your town reads.

All you said above is subjective and i will not go into a discussion about this.

Alice blending in as any alignament is a must for every mafia player. Puting four names looks like you consider just us able to do so which is a limitation of your reads. Unless you need to shade someone.

i didn't receive an answer from you and deffinitely the below is not enough.

Thanks. I will go to sleep if so because is almost midnight at me.

Woke up too early and hoped in few pages of activity.
Sagebee asks me of reads when he didn't read my posts, nagl, please post to can include you in my reads.
Red is tunneling me, and presents 3 villas in a game of 20. I don't ask for more just the oops i though they are 5 but i found 3 is not an effort from you. What do you think about Odd? Also do you have scum vibes from Oreki and Rej?

I will come back when my brain wakes up (is not 6 am yet) to reread the thread and post more.

yeah i am laying low.
busted.

keep asking because i will answer. No hard feelings.

Odd as scum would defend you and clearly say you are town? His posts gave me townish feeling.

actives:
Rej is town lean we already talked about him.
I liked Oreki's tone in the interaction with Rej, he feels relaxed, so i gave him a town lean too, i will Iso him to check my read before Eod.
Scarlet has good analysis over the game and shares oppinions like in previous game where she was town.
Ansa talked less about the game than i wished to from him but he also said his time is short. Just a gut feeling of him being town. I cannot say he is coasting because as any alignament he posts.
Odd slightly town because he has a very serious tone like how he usually posts as town. Is from meta.
XDD is on the upper part of my null pile.
Naomi is a nice presence so far, null for now.
Red - i have for you a reserve coming from a game where you was wolf and made in wolfchat and itt bold moves (i was just spectating that game). If you are town you didn't succeed to help me read you as such yet, if you are wolf you are never frozen.
Poison chan here until she will give her reads like she promised.
Al has a cool entry but i cannot read him from that, he is posting natural, i am waiting for more content.
Kyte can be anything.
I want to put Alice here because she brokes my heart if she is scum. I need more posts from her. Last game i voted her just after she was outed by cop clearly claiming itt.
Scum leans i see Corazon because he didn't contribute to the game, and Elmage because he as town is posting more. I am not content with this because he also is inactive and inactivity is NAI.

he did defend you already. Odd can change his meta but he cannot change what i feel when i am reading his posts.

Also his contribution is visible. Why would you suspect him?

I don't fill all scum possible slots because i don't guess. Mafia is a reasoning game for me.

Noted as a warning then

@Morte_Nosferatu
@-PK-
@Sagebee
@Alice in Noodleland
did i forgot some players?

Come play folks

Can you be more specific? Talking generally doesn't help.

Can you rephraze this?

I have in D1 a slow start at scumhunting, I need a town core to can play in team and you know it.

just 5 and half hours until Eod.
I have my own suspicion and i will go for it. Fluff poster, he said he will post, but he didn't.

VoteLynch: @Corazon

I have my eyes on Sagebee and I am waiting for a reason, his previous 2 games he played different. I need more posts from him.

Here, her 5th post when I asked her about meta, she didn't seem much interested, OK, cool she probably didn't play many games with her, how many did you play Mich? It sounded more like I don't wanna talk about her, you deal with it.
But again, as we proceed in the game, her 19th post about Rej which btw is based on meta. How many games did you play with him Mich?

Secondly, in her #254 (10th)post and #263 (11th) she still stuck with the scum number! She even bothered to check the other game, even though just a few posts away she was like "I don't wanna get diverted from this game"

Her 13th post seemed kinda funny to me, "undoing"? Michelle you have played enough games to know the little fact there's no reverse once one becomes anti town.

17th post, kinda nice, giving her reads.
So she town reads - Rej, Hotarou, Odd and Ansa. Incidentally finds Corazon scummy because of fluff posts.

22nd post of her, well Red asked her the questions I really wanna ask her too, but her reply was anything but answering what was asked, she changed the direction and put the same thing on red rather than justifying her actions.

24th post, asking for reasons about someone else's town reads when she was yet to put her reasonings.

28th post, yeah Michelle you are laying LOW.

30th she gives her reads again, but that is just based on the "tones" of the players and nothing else!? Come on Michelle I have seen more from you!

Her 2nd last vote, she votes for Corazon.


So basically she has been so consistent with her reads throughout this phase which I find a little bit odd, because on dp 1 who is so consistent?

Speaking of odd, she has been saying "why are you suspicious of him?"
"I feel he is townish"
And so on, this I'm not putting in suspicious list, just noting for future maybe!?

Lastly, you are laying low, playing safe, if not pure fluff, still you are fluffing, I couldn't find many solid posts Rej was referring to, oh rej is someone you town read by meta. I'll take that into consideration. And if you ask me? I haven't contributed much either, so if you try to change the wind, I can talk it.

Overall Reaction : Does not give good vibes.

 

[Poison]

Her 2nd last vote, she votes for Corazon.

2nd last post.

 

[Alice in Noodleland]

I was wondering if you've acted on NP0. It's not even close to an accusation here, since the write-up so far is controversial, but i'd like to know.

The only one who acted on NP0 i think is Kayn. Idk what wincoin The host put on that role but seems like chose to join the dark side.


If the Next NP he dont act.. Meaning no extra killing.. My theory is that it's an Even and Odd NP action. But its just a theory.


If you you're indirectly asking me if im Kayn. Wrong door.

 

[-PK-]

Guyss I haven't finished catching up but I just wanna say that Poison looks to not be in town.

We must kill her.
But I won't vote just yet coz more pages left. XD