People need to know the difference between rinne jutsus and six paths jutsu

[Rikudou Tobi]

A lot of people in this base or forum over all have a huge problem knowing the difference between six paths jutsu and Rinne jutsu. A lot of people for a long time thought that six paths jutsu meant the jutsus Nagato used as pain.
This is incorrect for a two reasons and that's because...

1. Pain's jutsus were never called six paths jutsu in the first place, and that name never existed prior to Madara's reveal.

2. Madara never said that you use the rinnegan for these jutsus (mainly because he and Obito didn't have one) but

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Now over the course of the manga, Nagato's 6 pain powers were always called

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from the very beginning by everyone and Konan said that it was the

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so if your were to reword that, it would be six pains jutsu not paths jutsu.

So where did everyone get that the six paths jutsu being the rinnegan jutsus from? Easy. People assumed that it was because nobody knew that you have six path powers without the rinnegan and that the rinnegan created every six path jutsu related because of a fanfic translation:

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Despite the actual translation being:

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People for the longest time thought that the Six path Sage Mode technique COAT is from the Rinnegan just because they heard of the rinnegan first, and they believe that the Rinnegan is the primal state of all things Six path power related, in fact some people still think it is still to this day (refer to spoiler in sig :lol)

Then I notice what Obito said when he used the proper term for Nagato's jutsu when he met Kabuto. It dawned on me then that Nagato used the same term earlier when he revived the village leaf village, Rinne.

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Rinne
The power of Rinne is the name jutsu coming from the eyes.

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Tensei

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Ninegndo's jutsu
etc.
The would mean the rest of the other jutsus that Nagato created/used is called

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So what are the six paths jutsu if they're not the Rinne jutsus? It's everything Madara literally said that requires the black rods.


Six Paths Jutsu
Six paths jutsu is what both Madara and Obito learned/taught in the cave

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Any time you see rods being a necessary implant or jutsus

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, that's when they are known as six paths jutsu.


That's the difference between Rinne jutsus and Six paths jutsu. Even after all the scans that I've showed and you still disagree, fine.
Show me one panel/page of VIZ print translation that states Six paths jutsu are Pain's powers and I'll concede to being wrong. If it says Rinne, then I'm right but if it says "six paths jutsu Tendo or Ningendo" then you would be right.


Side note: Now just because you disagree with what I'm saying, that doesn't mean you go around insulting me just because you feel like it's stupid because I'll just insult you back. Already I had someone say that I was retarded just because I don't agree that his fav can solo everyone in the Narutoverse, so I insulted him back.
If you call me stupid or retarded, then always expect me to reply you the same. I myself never start the insult so if you see me insulting somebody back, don't be a idiotic member and start calling me toxic or mean. You start it then be man/woman enough to receive what's coming to you.

 

[Urda]

Who are these people you talking about? The difference between the two did not need an explanation. Who goes around saying 'Rinne' Jutsu?

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Who are these people you talking about? The difference between the two did not need an explanation. Who goes around saying 'Rinne' Jutsu?

I don’t think you read the thread properly because Obito did.

 

[Azarath Metrion Zinthos]

I still don't get it, honestly! Even with all the explanation. There's too much six paths going on there, and really, what can be confusing about abilities that are just about the same and similar at the core? The names they are referred to as don't matter when in austerity the mechanics are analogous to one another.

Sasuke can attract humans and objects, so can Nagato. I don't see anything distinctly dissimilar about that.

 

[Urda]

I don’t think you read the thread properly because Obito did.

That's the only scan every mentioning 'Rinne'. Rinne is associated with Rinnegan.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

That's the only scan every mentioning 'Rinne'. Rinne is associated with Rinnegan.

Yes, every jutsu from the Rinnegan is but people are saying that something completely different is associated with the rinnegan

I still don't get it, honestly! Even with all the explanation. There's too much six paths going on there, and really, what can be confusing about abilities that are just about the same and similar at the core? The names they are referred to as don't matter when in austerity the mechanics are analogous to one another.

Sasuke can attract humans and objects, so can Nagato. I don't see anything distinctly dissimilar about that.

Alright I’ll make it much more clear by using a mangekyo sharingan example.
Let’s say that the rinnegan is equivalent to the Mangekyo sharingan and that Six paths jutsu is the equivalent to Uchiha style jutsu.
You follow? Tell me when you don’t.


So what I’m saying is that Amatersu is a Mangekyo jutsu (Like Tendo is a Rinne jutsu), therefore it’s not an Uchiha style jutsu like Uchiha flame formation despite being used by those with Uchiha chakra.

 

[Azarath Metrion Zinthos]

Yes, every jutsu from the Rinnegan is but people are saying that something completely different is associated with the rinnegan


Alright I’ll make it much more clear by using a mangekyo sharingan example.
Let’s say that the rinnegan is equivalent to the Mangekyo sharingan and that Six paths jutsu is the equivalent to Uchiha style jutsu.
You follow? Tell me when you don’t.


So what I’m saying is that Amatersu is a Mangekyo jutsu (Like Tendo is a Rinne jutsu), therefore it’s not an Uchiha style jutsu like Uchiha flame formation despite being used by those with Uchiha chakra.

Okay, I got you, I think. So copy pasting that analogy into the Rinnegan argument, you're saying that Tendo isn't necessarily a Rinnegan based jutsu and isn't granting the Pain's the abilites they wield? If so, that doesn't explain how only Nagato has been able to use the technique and not other shinobi without the Rinnegan.

I may not be following, on second thought.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

You think about this too much

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Okay, I got you, I think. So copy pasting that analogy into the Rinnegan argument, you're saying that Six paths jutsu isn't necessarily a Rinnegan based jutsu? If so, that doesn't explain how only Nagato has been able to use the technique and not other shinobi without the Rinnegan.

I may not be following, on second thought.

I edited for you but you're close

You think about this too much

The only reason why I made this thread was because of yesterday. Besides that my focus has been Onepiece and Boruto's Kawaki potential.

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[InfiniteMugen]

I edited for you but you're close




The only reason why I made this thread was because of yesterday. Besides that my focus has been Onepiece and Boruto's Kawaki potential.

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I didn’t read the whole thread, just the last few, but the people you mention all call them pains jutsus before they knew the eyes belonged to someone else. Konan doesn’t find out till right before she died, gai and kakashi at that point still consider pain the originator of the rinnegan and it’s powers. That’s what popped into my head off those few posts

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

I didn’t read the whole thread, just the last few, but the people you mention all call them pains jutsus before they knew the eyes belonged to someone else. Konan doesn’t find out till right before she died, gai and kakashi at that point still consider pain the originator of the rinnegan and it’s powers. That’s what popped into my head off those few posts

Yeah and that's exactly what happened. But if you read the whole thread, then you would know what's going on.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

Yeah and that's exactly what happened. But if you read the whole thread, then you would know what's going on.

It looks like your average rinnegan jutsus/nagato jutsu argument with a diff name tbh, come on man you really expect me to read through that?

 

[DHOH]

I didn’t read the thread but if Nagato cannot do those jutsu without Madara eyes then they aren’t original to him.

 

[Animegoin]

Lmfao this dude really said “refer to the spoiler in sig,” as if he didn’t embarrass himself there.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

It looks like your average rinnegan jutsus/nagato jutsu argument with a diff name tbh, come on man you really expect me to read through that?

Look I'll just use an example for you. The reason why it's a different name is because of the translations from other sites that don't have viz. And because of that, names pertaining to one set of jutsu is being used for a different one.
It's basically like saying Uchihs style jutsu flame formation is a mangekyo technique just because it has something to do Uchiha.

I didn’t read the thread but if Nagato cannot do those jutsu without Madara eyes then they aren’t original to him.

Exactly. You didn't read because nobody said that nagato can use those jutsus without the rinnegan. If you're not going to bother to read then don't say something at all.

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[DHOH]

Look I'll just use an example for you. The reason why it's a different name is because of the translations from other sites that don't have viz. And because of that, names pertaining to one set of jutsu is being used for a different one.
It's basically like saying Uchihs style jutsu flame formation is a mangekyo technique just because it has something to do Uchiha.

Exactly. You didn't read because nobody said that nagato can use those jutsus without the rinnegan. If you're not going to bother to read then don't say something at all.

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Still not going to read it lol. But what’s the point? Madara eyes Madara jutsu, Not Nagato.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

Look I'll just use an example for you. The reason why it's a different name is because of the translations from other sites that don't have viz. And because of that, names pertaining to one set of jutsu is being used for a different one.
It's basically like saying Uchihs style jutsu flame formation is a mangekyo technique just because it has something to do Uchiha.

Exactly. You didn't read because nobody said that nagato can use those jutsus without the rinnegan. If you're not going to bother to read then don't say something at all.

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6 path jutsus are different than the jutsus used in 6 paths of pain, those are rinnegan jutsus. Is this what you made the thread for?

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

6 path jutsus are different than the jutsus used in 6 paths of pain, those are rinnegan jutsus. Is this what you made the thread for?

Yes because the 6 pains are called rinne jutsus. I want people to know that everything Sasuke, Hagoromoo, Madara, and any other Ohtutsuki do are going to be rinnegan related so that people won't assume like they did for COAT.

Still not going to read it lol. But what’s the point? Madara eyes Madara jutsu, Not Nagato.

Since when did the sharingans follow the same principles as a Rinnegan? Is nagato going to use Limbo hengoku too?

 

[Belserion]

But didn't Sasuke use bansho tenin in vote 2?
I think Madara used preta path to absorb Naruto's Rs too.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

But didn't Sasuke use bansho tenin in vote 2?
I think Madara used preta path to absorb Naruto's Rs too.

No he didn't use Bansho tenin, it was added in the filler. He used chibau tensei which uses gravitationl pull force but nothing magnetic like bansho tenin/shinra tensei