Just a question I wanted some opinions on. Do you guys think minato could take out obito with a “sucker punch” i.e. if minato was still alive or brought back at the beginning, and new obito was the masked man he fought and marked, could he have warped to him at some point an taken him out before obito could react? This isn’t a fight scenario, or even a vs thread, just more curiosity than anything
The second part was how i meant it, like if obito was just randomly doing something and minato just popped up and went for the kill, if obito would be able to react and or activate kamui in time. I’m in agreement with you though
Do you even forum bro? Lol seriously tho it’s not a fight scenario, nor a vs, it’s a random cheap shot scenario that would never actually happen, just wanted to get peoples opinions... don’t you think obito would be able to do the same to most people?(i mean, he failed to do it against minato... but i digress)
No. Not the one that's 30 years of age. A kid's body is more susceptible to a sucker punch than a grown man that's full developed naturally.
There's a reason why minato's rasengan was able to damage an underdeveloped synthetic tissue 14 year old's arm that was still in the process of healing in comparison to a 30 year old developed synthetic tissue that tanked a kyubi chakra rasengan to the arm with only a scratch that later healed up.
It's not working to be honest and this is from the utmost none bias aspect that I'm approaching this with. You'd need a V2 Raikage, V2 Bee, or Tsunade type strength to sucker punch Tobi or Obito down. He's got as much durability as Kisame from what we've seen.
No. Not the one that's 30 years of age. A kid's body is more susceptible to a sucker punch than a grown man that's full developed naturally.
There's a reason why minato's rasengan was able to damage an underdeveloped synthetic tissue 14 year old's arm that was still in the process of healing in comparison to a 30 year old developed synthetic tissue that tanked a kyubi chakra rasengan to the arm with only a scratch that later healed up.
It's not working to be honest and this is from the utmost none bias aspect that I'm approaching this with. You'd need a V2 Raikage, V2 Bee, or Tsunade type strength to sucker punch Tobi or Obito down. He's got as much durability as Kisame from what we've seen.
Hmm, what about when he slashed his neck? That’s what i mean, not an actual punch, but a kunai slash(I guess a rasengan would
Work, but that def wouldn’t kill him) A kunai was what i was thinking, pretty much like what happened in the war arc, but without obito being in the process of becoming a jinc. Like say in the early days of akatsuki. I’m not even suggesting in this thread that minato > adult
Obito. Just wondering if it would happen like that, or if obito would actually be able to do something to avoid or counter in time. Remember the seal is on his back, so he’d warp into point blank range, and minato doesn’t have the same issue with other s/t users as far as linear movement post s/t jutsu. I’m not saying your wrong at all btw, as it’s more an opinion thread. I just don’t really see a non dms obito being able to avoid it in that very specific rather silly scenario. You have a point with his durability, but does that apply to his non zetsu half as well? Or does that even matter
Hmm, what about when he slashed his neck? That’s what i mean, not an actual punch, but a kunai slash(I guess a rasengan would
Work, but that def wouldn’t kill him) A kunai was what i was thinking, pretty much like what happened in the war arc, but without obito being in the process of becoming a jinc. Like say in the early days of akatsuki. I’m not even suggesting in this thread that minato > adult
Obito. Just wondering if it would happen like that, or if obito would actually be able to do something to avoid or counter in time. Remember the seal is on his back, so he’d warp into point blank range, and minato doesn’t have the same issue with other s/t users as far as linear movement post s/t jutsu. I’m not saying your wrong at all btw, as it’s more an opinion thread. I just don’t really see a non dms obito being able to avoid it in that very specific rather silly scenario. You have a point with his durability, but does that apply to his non zetsu half as well? Or does that even matter
Well to the neck it would be as durable as kisame since the synthetic tissue starts from behind there but easier said than done considering that when Tobi/Obito is using intangible kamui that thing is instant especially when aimed to strike his head, arm swinging motion tends to be on the low end of actually killing the guy. Don't forget that Minato, Ay, and Foo tried to sucker punch Tobi/Obito too you know:
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He always manages to phase through every single one of them but he is unable to warp(transport speed) that person instantly to kamui dimensions because it takes some time according to Rikudou madara.
But like you said the seal is behind his back, so the best thing that he can do in a situation like that is his
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) after minato out struck him when they first fought. It would take some type of distraction or new counter measure to strike him with a sucker punch but again it will prevent Tobi or Obito from transport warping someone as fast as Minato with that kind of speed. So warping Minato into dimensions would not be an option for whatever scenario you're creating so far. Even warping kamui won't work on Kakashi anymore either because he's too high of a level to get fooled like that.
As for the synthetic part, Zetsu did say he was part synthetic hashirama cells and gedo mazou organs. So getting stuck in the arm (30 years old) with a blade that slashes steal doors into pieces and a rasenagan isn't looking too good imo.
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There's too many variables to counter to add in like say location and does he get to use the gunbai fan or curse seal stakes to protect him? etc.
14 yr old tobi/obito on the other hand gets sucker punched for sure without a doubt. He shown no feats to counteract a blindside attack and his body is still developing the tissues he has. So the discretion is up to you and how you feel about it. I say whatever happens to Tobi will be the same results as him fighting another sturdy character likecKisame. What do you think?
These are just the way tobi usually handles sucker punches from top level guys there's always other options to get him. Chakra in this remains irrelevant.
Yes he would get rasenganed or slashed or punched, whatever you want since he won't even know minato is coming at him. Its even easier than what it was in their 1st clash. Kamui proved to be slower than minato's ftg and striking speed. Here minato has the element of surprise on his side too. He has got this in the bag.
Slash to the neck is weird but since it was taken as a strategy; here's ma counter:
1. Your mistaken if you think the hashi cells only protect the synthetic arm area, it enhances one's physique energy in other words, strengthening the body exponentially; so do not matter whether it's located in the arm area, the body as a whole get's affected and the physical energy seeps to all cells.
2. In terms of reaction and speed, 15 year old tobi got minato beat as I've proven in my other thread by marking the scans.
I also wonder if Minato could have taken both Masked Man and the 9-tails on at the same time with out using the death seal or running away. -Not a fight tho just wondering.
Minato couldn't take on 15 year old tobi with divided power to suppress nine tails. No way in hell is he taking both of them at the same time, not even in KCM, but maybe BM might prove to be near equals.
Slash to the neck is weird but since it was taken as a strategy; here's ma counter:
1. Your mistaken if you think the hashi cells only protect the synthetic arm area, it enhances one's physique energy in other words, strengthening the body exponentially; so do not matter whether it's located in the arm area, the body as a whole get's affected and the physical energy seeps to all cells.
2. In terms of reaction and speed, 15 year old tobi got minato beat as I've proven in my other thread by marking the scans.
I also wonder if Minato could have taken both Masked Man and the 9-tails on at the same time with out using the death seal or running away. -Not a fight tho just wondering.
Not bullsh*t. Read the manga, especially the danzo fight, you'll get your answer. Wood element.... nope. Hashirama cells to be specific increases physical energy which increases durability and healing power at the same time. Too lazy for scans.
Besides the post that you ignored. Do you have any Sage mode feats you can use from Sm Naruto to help your cause? His gedo half can't handle a direct his from Sm Naruto.
Besides the post that you ignored. Do you have any Sage mode feats you can use from Sm Naruto to help your cause? His gedo half can't handle a direct his from Sm Naruto.
Nah, not really, sorry about ignoring it wasn’t my intention, just some clown and his alt got my attention. Anywho like I said, minato has no sm feats nor did i even consider sm for the thread, just obito being surprised. I don’t like using minato sm feats as they’re non existent. Personally I’d assume his sm is below nardos, if only a bit. As far as your post, I agree with a good amount, but i do have like one or two issues with it. First, we’ve already seen minato slash his neck and hit his jugular with a kunai, so we know it’s possible, whether or not that’s a bsm only feat I’m not sure, but he was able to do more than just puncture. Without the situation that was happening at the time it’s possible obito would of died from that, although we’ll never really know. Second, i get the other two, but the situation with minato was diff, tobi tried to blindside him first by popping up behind him and attempting to kamui him, minato countered, he didn’t blindside obito
Nah, not really, sorry about ignoring it wasn’t my intention, just some clown and his alt got my attention. Anywho like I said, minato has no sm feats nor did i even consider sm for the thread, just obito being surprised. I don’t like using minato sm feats as they’re non existent. Personally I’d assume his sm is below nardos, if only a bit
They both use have the same level of Sage mode (besides ksm/bsm) so why not give Minato some of those standard feats? Like sensing danger against 3rd Raikage and summoning ma and pa for Sage Frog Song. Minato does have a frog contract.
Ma and Pa can use the Toad Sage Fist since Minato doesn't have the feat for it. Just a thought
