Who were Zetsu's biggest enemies?

[Wood Style Tenzo]

As in: who stood in the way of his cycle of hatred the most? who posed a threat to eternal strife?

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[Bad Touch Yakushi]

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but real talk? Naruto, Mei Terumi, Hashirama and Jiraiya​

 

[SenseiSama]

Itachi and Jiraiya


I'm also guessing Uzumaki since their affinity to bijuu made them the biggest threat to Madara's plans

 

[salamander uchiha]

Itachi, the rest were prone to some form of hatred. Madara however rose above everything since his goals changed perhaps if he realised who Zetsu was he would've solo'd him and brought peace to the world.

 

[Guntah]

Well, that's an easy answer.

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Because honestly, who else could it be?

The whole idea behind the cycle of hatred is that if you kill, you're just gonna create more hatred and perpetuate it. And while we have many heroes and badasses in this story, Naruto is the one who broke it. Naruto is the only one who was pushed into the option of perpetuating it and didn't do so. Its what makes him the protagonist instead of someone like Itachi or Hashirama. Even with how perfect and noble both are displayed, Itachi still killed his clan, he perpetuated the cycle of hatred. Hashirama still killed Madara, he perpetuated the cycle of hatred.

Naruto didn't. He broke the cycle. He redeemed Sasuke and he redeemed Nagato.

And thus he rose above.

 

[salamander uchiha]

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He wanted to kill but he was always reminded by others, of his own self he never overcame the curse of hatred.

 

[Guntah]

He wanted to kill but he was always reminded by others, of his own self he never overcame the curse of hatred.

Yeah, he would never be able to do what he did alone. Which is why another reccuring theme in the series is...

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[salamander uchiha]

Yeah, he would never be able to do what he did alone. Which is why another reccuring theme in the series is...

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It's clear then what the biggest enemy of the curse of hatred is(friendship)? And all possible because of Madara sama.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

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The natural born landscaper

 

[Guntah]

It's clear then what the biggest enemy of the curse of hatred is(friendship)?

Well, when you put it like that, it does sound cheesy as ****, but yeah, pretty much.

 

[SenseiSama]

Well, that's an easy answer.

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Because honestly, who else could it be?

The whole idea behind the cycle of hatred is that if you kill, you're just gonna create more hatred and perpetuate it. And while we have many heroes and badasses in this story, Naruto is the one who broke it. Naruto is the one who rose above and didn't kill.

Its what makes him the protagonist instead of someone like Itachi or Hashirama. Even with how perfect and noble both are displayed, Itachi still killed his clan, he perpetuated the cycle of hatred. Hashirama still killed Madara, he perpetuated the cycle of hatred.

Naruto didn't. He broke the cycle. He redeemed Sasuke and he redeemed Nagato.

And thus he rose above.

Yes but that does not mean there were no other threats, Itachi for example held off Obito's plan for many years, long enough for Naruto to grow strong, he was a threat to Madara's plans multiple times. BZ also tried to convert Ashura incarnates suggesting Indra incarnates were also a threat.

 

[TrueRage]

any 1 Mangekyō Sharingan was a thret to him, they be the 1 looking at the stone tab and if any of them looked close would see it had ben changed

 

[Guntah]

Yes but that does not mean there were no other threats, Itachi for example held off Obito's plan for many years, long enough for Naruto to grow strong, he was a threat to Madara's plans multiple times. BZ also tried to convert Ashura incarnates suggesting Indra incarnates were also a threat.

I never claimed he was the sole opposer to the cycle of hatred as much as he was its biggest enemy to date and, ultimately, the first one to really break it.

 

[Chikombo]

Ashura I think. And his transmigrants.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Itachi and Jiraiya


I'm also guessing Uzumaki since their affinity to bijuu made them the biggest threat to Madara's plans

Itachi played a vital role in the Uchiha genocide. All of the Uchiha were victims of BZ's machinations.

 

[SeveN797]

In terms of BZ and Madara's plan - Nagato and Konan in some way after Naruto turned them, but specifically Nagato, he had the most important tool - the Rinnegan.

It's funny now that you think of it, the most important thing was entrusted to Nagato which could betray them anytime and in fact he did. Without Rinnegan they couldn't bring alive Madara and 1 MS Obito would have been easily handled during war even with Kabuto and his ET help.

Fortunate for Obito, Nagato sacrificed himself and died after he turned good and Obito managed to get the location of Nagato's body from Konan. If Nagato somehow didn't die after using rinne tensei or Konan didn't lose to Obito, the bad guys would have never get Rinnegan again which means no alive Madara and no Juubi. The war could still happen, Kabuto could still summon ET Madara but with fake Rinnegan's he couldn't summon gedo mazo or become host with ET body. And 1 MS Obito would have been easily handled by top tiers like EMS Sasuke, BSM Naruto or Edo Kages, assuming he would even try the war option in this scenario.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

In terms of BZ and Madara's plan - Nagato and Konan in some way after Naruto turned them, but specifically Nagato, he had the most important tool - the Rinnegan.

It's funny now that you think of it, the most important thing was entrusted to Nagato which could betray them anytime and in fact he did. Without Rinnegan they couldn't bring alive Madara and 1 MS Obito would have been easily handled during war even with Kabuto and his ET help.

Fortunate for Obito, Nagato sacrificed himself and died after he turned good and Obito managed to get the location of Nagato's body from Konan. If Nagato somehow didn't die after using rinne tensei or Konan didn't lose to Obito, the bad guys would have never get Rinnegan again which means no alive Madara and no Juubi. The war could still happen, Kabuto could still summon ET Madara but with fake Rinnegan's he couldn't summon gedo mazo or become host with ET body. And 1 MS Obito would have been easily handled by top tiers like EMS Sasuke, BSM Naruto or Edo Kages, assuming he would even try the war option in this scenario.

I'm not following this. If nagato didn't sacrificed his eyes earlier, Madara would've came back alive faster and less people would've died in the war. Rinnegan or not Tobi still had control over the Gedo statue with its bijus, he could summon that thing whenever he wanted to aid him in war. And kabuto didn't need a rinnegan to bring back Madara as edo tensei either.
The whole plan of Tsuki no me is to enslave people while they are alive not kill people before it happened. Tobi with Rinnegan or not the outcome would've remained the same with Kaguya's resurrection.

 

[SeveN797]

I'm not following this. If nagato didn't sacrificed his eyes earlier, Madara would've came back alive faster and less people would've died in the war. Rinnegan or not Tobi still had control over the Gedo statue with its bijus, he could summon that thing whenever he wanted to aid him in war. And kabuto didn't need a rinnegan to bring back Madara as edo tensei either.
The whole plan of Tsuki no me is to enslave people while they are alive not kill people before it happened. Tobi with Rinnegan or not the outcome would've remained the same with Kaguya's resurrection.

There's too many scenarios that could happen, but assuming we're following canon story, if Obito somehow managed to survive to the point he became juubi jin, he's canonically dealt by Naruto and Sasuke before he could cast IT with a god tree and then it's over because ET Madara can't do anything, since there's no one with Rinnegan that BZ could take over and use rinne tensei for him.

 

[Nidaime Suiton]

Orochimaru

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

There's too many scenarios that could happen, but assuming we're following canon story, if Obito somehow managed to survive to the point he became juubi jin, he's canonically dealt by Naruto and Sasuke before he could cast IT with a god tree and then it's over because ET Madara can't do anything, since there's no one with Rinnegan that BZ could take over and use rinne tensei for him.

Well Canonically Tobi as Obito would have to give up the power, because he was dealing with both Sasuke and Naruto as Jyubi jinchuuriki giving the alliance no hope until he let the bijus free. And if Nagato did not sacrifice himself to the leaf but to Madara instead, Madara would be alive with both his eyes back in his sacket after taking it from nagato.
It's not like anybody but edo madara was using the rinnegan in the war anyways since Tobi couldn't use it. He was fighting two perfect jinchuurikis with just kamui and other skills alone. It was Shisui's eyes that he was risking his life for after hearing about Nagato's death, so with nagato being alive he wouldn't of needed to sacrifice his eyes in the first place. He wanted EMS Sasuke because he implanted him with EMS and he wanted BM naruto to happen.

There's also a possibility that nagato would've been able to bring akatsuki back if he was still alive.