Difference Between Sarada and Sakura. How Sarada could potentially be Worse

[AllHailLordZeustsu]

One thing People should not overlook is how the female characters particularly Sakura and Sarada blow up the proportion between the two series. (Naruto and Boruto)

Sakura:
Following from its predecessor, Sakura was absolutely mistreated from piss poor development to being shafted. Sakura is a poor representation as a female cast. Sakura has nothing of her own as a character without any kind of goal she aspire to be and brought nothing to the table. In this case she is nothing more but a love interest to Sasuke.


Sarada:
On the other hand, Kishi realized his mistake so he took notes and made Sarada as a refined version of Sakura with better improved personality and given her proper objective thus expanding her future potential role in the story. With that in mind, Kishi glued the idea about Sarada better portrayal as a female cast by becoming a Front battle rather than backup supporter to the point that she was given ALOT of free handout powerup without any indication of buildup and training which so far leaves a huge stain on Sasuke and other uchiha prodigies. This could fluctuate her character progression if she continues to go on a Mary Sue route.


Difference:

Sarada becoming a Mary Sue could be a huge detrimental to the series because atleast with Sakura she is too useless to the plot thus its only limited to her character.

Whereas with Sarada, she can not only potentially devolve her character development but also ruin the entire series for the very same reason why Kakashi with the MS Spam and PS Asspull ruined the foundation from both aspect of Character and Story.

Another example is Obito where a Villain can either make or break the series. In this case, Obito completely shated everything from all the inconsistencies writing, plotholes, ruining the epicness of Tobi with absolutely shit motivation, overloaded with flashback and ruined 2/3 of the entire series with that worst arc.

 

[Team7monaa]

I highly doubt Sarada will be as badly developed as Sakura + she’s an a Uchiha and has a goal to become hokage so she’ll definitely be more relevant to the plot and have a running ambition. Hopefully, the editors have learned from their past mistakes especially regarding female characters.​

 

[Askeladd]

Yeah, I agree with some of your points.

To be honest Sarada is destined to become a love interest as hinted many times in the manga/movie/anime.

 

[AllHailLordZeustsu]

I highly doubt Sarada will be as badly developed as Sakura + she’s an a Uchiha and has a goal to become hokage so she’ll definitely be more relevant to the plot. Hopefully, the editors have learned from their past mistakes.

As long as she doesn't end up a shitty written like Kale and Caulifla from DBS become and give her actual struggle and training.

 

[Team7monaa]

Agree, Sakura is trash, as admitted by Kishimoto and her fans, like Team7monaa, Salad isn't.

She’s may be badly developed but all the females are, Sakura was just fleshed out more because she was a MC in a series with a plot she had nothing to do with. I still love her character.

 

[Melanin]

Sarada's development is going in the right direction and we should expect even greater things, theorizing otherwise is illogical. In a lot of ways she exutes the potential that Sakura had as a MC or character in general imo so I'm cool with it..

 

[Made in Heaven]

She’s may be badly developed but all the females are

No one is as badly as written as her. Obito is a close second though.

a MC in a series with a plot she had nothing to do with.

If only her name was "Hinata Hyuga", that wouldn't have been the case.

I still love her character.

That's cool fam.

 

[sayian]

No offense but the only mary sue i see here is boruto.

 

[AllHailLordZeustsu]

She’s may be badly developed but all the females are, Sakura was just fleshed out more because she was a MC in a series with a plot she had nothing to do with. I still love her character.

Not all female characters are bad...

TBH, Sakura doesn't hold any negative impact to the series because like I said, she brings nothing to the story other than the relationship with Team 7. Sarada atm could be in the worse position if she's not executed correctly. Like for ex, If she manage to resolve everything and overcome every strong opponent that she should not able to beat without any kind of conflict and struggle then IMO that would ruined the entire image of the series.

Atleast with Sakura, she was shown to carry on a huge burden on her shoulder and how she become progressively stronger with the amount of buildups

 

[lndra]

I mean the only problem written wise that I've seen is that Sarada doesn't have any written flaws, but this coexists with multiple characters in the next generation too.

No one seems to have any flaws, like at all. Most of them are just perfect ninjas who hardly fail or struggle outside of family issues. This kind of sucks because most of their battles, it requires them to always win.

With Sarada she could reach Itachi level of hype but she definitely has the potential to be a Mary Sue, as she is now, because of her lack of flaws. It's actually my only gripe with her character. She's too perfect.

I can't name one bad thing about her. This sucks because people are following her so that she could be Hokage and yet, she already meets certain criteria.

Smart as hell? Check.
Strong as hell? Check.
Great leader? Check.
Works well with others? Check.
Promising future? Check.

In contrast to Naruto who built up this way over the course of the story, reaching the climax via Pain Arc where everything after that felt redundant in this path towards being Hokage. Sarada feels complete in that retrospect. She's not weak, dumb, untalented, she isn't hated by the Village, people support her dream, etc.

What would be a great way to show a conflict is have Sarada go through some Uchiha-backstory, have someone sit down and explain her Clan's history, and her Uncle. Have her go through a slightly less traumatizing effect where she can correlate it with her Hokage path to make the right choices.

OR. They can have Sarada struggle in some type of concept.


They did a better job with Boruto in the film than his peers in contrast to what a character struggle entitles. Him having to cheat in the Chunin Examinations because of his lack of confidence, Boruto not training because he views it as superfluous, and Boruto looking for short cuts because they are faster.

If you compare those conflicts with Sarada, Mitsuki, Shikadai, Cho-Cho, and so on - They lack this "substance" that makes them grounded because they all seem well rounded from the get go.

 

[Jiren]

Sarada is fine I love her as a character. I hope they continue to do a good job with her

 

[Sakura Michiko]

One thing People should not overlook is how the female characters particularly Sakura and Sarada blow up the proportion between the two series. (Naruto and Boruto)

Sakura:
Following from its predecessor, Sakura was absolutely mistreated from piss poor development to being shafted. Sakura is a poor representation as a female cast. Sakura has nothing of her own as a character without any kind of goal she aspire to be and brought nothing to the table. In this case she is nothing more but a love interest to Sasuke.
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I agree Sakura didn't have fighting styles of her own but the think about Sakura is that she was suppose to just be a normal girl that didn't come from a special blood line. It's actually pretty amazing that she, as a normal person, was even able to master Tsunade's techniques and the fact that she mastered them at the age of 16. The fact that she only uses Tsunade's techniques can be seen as a limitation of a person who is normal. I mean look at Lee, he uses the same techniques as Gai.Or it can just be Kishimoto's writting because Sakura was said to be a natural at genjustu and Kishimoto barely developed it. Sakura original goal was Sasuke but that changed around the time they were in the forest for the chunin exams and her goal was to be stronger. Yea, the goal did start up extremely slow and it probably was not obvious because a lot of people focus on the fact that she liked Sasuke and Kishimoto executed it extremely poor but she did accomplish her goal at becoming stronger. She's not as strong as Sasuke and Naruto because of 1. Bad writting on kishimoto's part and 2. Sasuke and Naruto are Gray Stu (Male mary sue).

I personally think Kishimoto should have put Sakura's development in certain places in the story. Like he could have just started her off as some normal girl who liked Sasuke and got determine during the chunin exam. Showed her training more. Show her studying genjustu and using inner sakura as Sakura's own genjustu. Kishimoto could have gave her a few fights in part one then let her get trained by Tsunade. In part 2 the story could have started the same with her fighting Sasori with Chiyo but of course the fight would be different if she practice genjustu. She could have unlocked her seal earlier like around the pain arc. Kishimoto could of had her fight another akashki member. For the war arc the part are her defeating that fake Neji could have remained the same but at this time she could have unlocked that seal around that time but during this time she could stay as support and back up to be the main healer and only come to the front lines to destory those juubi clones like she did in the manga and summon katsuya. In the fight againsit Marada she could have been healing Naruto and Sasuke as the fought him. And in the battle againist Kaguya she probably could have dealt even more damage.

 

[chaos control]

One thing People should not overlook is how the female characters particularly Sakura and Sarada blow up the proportion between the two series. (Naruto and Boruto)

Sakura:
Following from its predecessor, Sakura was absolutely mistreated from piss poor development to being shafted. Sakura is a poor representation as a female cast. Sakura has nothing of her own as a character without any kind of goal she aspire to be and brought nothing to the table. In this case she is nothing more but a love interest to Sasuke.


Sarada:
On the other hand, Kishi realized his mistake so he took notes and made Sarada as a refined version of Sakura with better improved personality and given her proper objective thus expanding her future potential role in the story. With that in mind, Kishi glued the idea about Sarada better portrayal as a female cast by becoming a Front battle rather than backup supporter to the point that she was given ALOT of free handout powerup without any indication of buildup and training which so far leaves a huge stain on Sasuke and other uchiha prodigies. This could fluctuate her character progression if she continues to go on a Mary Sue route.


Difference:

Sarada becoming a Mary Sue could be a huge detrimental to the series because atleast with Sakura she is too useless to the plot thus its only limited to her character.

Whereas with Sarada, she can not only potentially devolve her character development but also ruin the entire series for the very same reason why Kakashi with the MS Spam and PS Asspull ruined the foundation from both aspect of Character and Story.

Another example is Obito where a Villain can either make or break the series. In this case, Obito completely shated everything from all the inconsistencies writing, plotholes, ruining the epicness of Tobi with absolutely shit motivation, overloaded with flashback and ruined 2/3 of the entire series with that worst arc.

I disagree with almost everything you said.

For starters, Sarada is far from a mary sue and she actually has been shown training. Perhaps you missed it, but if you go back a few episodes you will see that Sarada was training her sharingan with Chouchou in the forest. Furthermore, Sarada stated back in the Sumire arc that she has a night sensei, and it is also implied that she learned something from Sakura (either by Sakura teaching her or by watching Sakura) at some point in her life, considering that her CES had to come from somewhere. In the manga, she was even shown practising her marksmanship in her room. Therefore, Sarada has been shown to train.

Furthermore, Sarada has received no handout powerups. CES is a learned thing, and sharingan is a natural bloodline trait of the Uchiha. In fact, even with her sharingan, they (the writers) haven't given her any free or special treatment. If anything, she has been given less handouts in the sharingan department than other Uchihas, considering that Sarada has literally been stuck at 1 tomoe for years (both in universe and out) while Obito/Itachi were both given 2 tomoe upon awakening it, and Sasuke was given 2 in one eye and 1 in the other in the first battle in which he ever used the sharingan.

The only reason you are saying that she has been given handouts is because we haven't been shown on screen every ounce of training that she has ever done. That is one of the problem with fandoms like this. People constantly deny and ignore the reality of events being able to happen off screen, so whenever we see that a character has improved or gotten better at something (without us having seen the moment when they first started to achieve that growth), then people call it a handout or call the character a mary sue. People need to get this through their minds. Characters can train off screen!

You wanna talk about handouts? Well instead of talking about Sarada, you should be talking about her father (who was given the curse mark, Itachi's eyes, six paths chakara, and the rinnegan).

As for your statements about Obito, you are dead wrong. You (and many other people) fail to understand Obito's character and motivation (and I honestly believe that you people refuse to understand out of your sheer desire to hate on and bash the character, and to make cheap pedo jokes).

Obito's motivation was essentially the same as Madara's. He (like Madara) saw and experienced the pain and loss that the war and conflict in the shinobi world inflicts upon people. The loss of Rin just so happened to be the tragedy that led Obito to his epiphany (much like the loss of Izuna drove Madara, or how the loss of Itachi drove Sasuke, or how the loss of Yahiko drove Nagato). However, you and others just choose to ignorantly blow this fact out of proportion and run with it, saying that Rin was Obito's whole reason for doing the things that he did. You people are too blinded by your hatred of the Rin flashbacks and the infamous "You let Rin die" line to see that Rin's death was nothing more than a catalyst to Obito's realization that Madara was right. Obito even stated plainly that Kakashi and Rin were not the impetus of the war.

Considering what we know about Obito's life, you can't deny the logic in what I'm saying.

If you're being honest, then you can't deny that:
Just like Naruto, Obito never met his parents
Just like Madara, Obito grew up in a time of war
Just like Madara, Izuna, Itachi, Sasuke, Nagato, etc... Obito lost love to the fires of shinobi conflict

Obito had all of the same makings of a revolutionary as Madara, Sasuke, Nagato, etc...

You just hate flashbacks.

Also, what inconsistencies and plot holes?! There were very few of those (if any) generated by Obito! The main inconsistencies in the end came from the Otsutsuki. In the end, Kishi really made some stuff confusing and it took a lot of us a good while to understand what really went down with Kaguya and her sons and grandsons.

In either case, that arc was one of the best arcs ever!

 

[QuickNEasy]

I'm hoping Sarada is actually a well written character,Ike has done a decent job thus far. Kishi stated that he's not good at writing female characters(Which makes no sense tbh), and it definitely showed.

 

[Made in Heaven]

I'm hoping Sarada is actually a well written character,Ike has done a decent job thus far. Kishi stated that he's not good at writing female characters(Which makes no sense tbh), and it definitely showed.

Ikemoto doesn't write the manga, Kodachi does.

 

[lndra]

Furthermore, Sarada has received no handout powerups.

I think he was referring to like in the future. The essence of power ups in the series is kind of linear when it comes to the Main Characters. Though I don't think it'll be a big deal unless they implore reincarnations and stuff.

The only reason you are saying that she has been given handouts is because we haven't been shown on screen every ounce of training that she has ever done.

My problem isn't necessarily training on screen, I never had the issue before. I think its the performance that's jarring in quality. For example:

> Sarada v. Shin - Shin bests both her and Chou Chou
> Sarada v. Multiple Shin (rematch) - Sarada gets the best of them all because she activated her Sharingan.

Mind you these are MS Clones. That was just... bad.

Sarada v. Buntan

> Sarada copied a Lightning Technique that was stated you can only utilize be with the Kiba swords. That's where the technique was generated from.
> Sarada having a better performance via the Sharingan in comparison to Sasuke and other Uchiha's. Whereas the Sharingan was more completed in her hands, where Sasuke actually had to upgrade his Sharingan to use things like Genjutsu.

For example. .

I'm not saying she's exactly a May Sue, but if they don't give Sarada actual character flaws, and they continue to make her feats 'less grounded'. I can see how she could end up being Itachi 2.0 in the sense of Sue-ness.

I mean she isn't far off either. At least despite Sasuke's power ups and hand outs, Sasuke at least got his ass handed to him more than he won. Not to mention despite training, he still failed quite effortlessly so.

One of my biggest complaints with this next generation series is that no one actual has conflicts within their characters - yet. They all just seem so well rounded, and only lack in the area when it comes to family relationships.

It's stupid and I hope they do something about it when the series gets more serious.

 

[Styles]

Sarada is fine as things are now. In Naruto every female character was ass not just Sakura despite what other faps say. And nothing but a love interest with no goals. At least now a female have a goal and the determination to do it.

 

[chaos control]

I think he was referring to like in the future. The essence of power ups in the series is kind of linear when it comes to the Main Characters. Though I don't think it'll be a big deal unless they implore reincarnations and stuff.


My problem isn't necessarily training on screen, I never had the issue before. I think its the performance that's jarring in quality. For example:

> Sarada v. Shin - Shin bests both her and Chou Chou
> Sarada v. Multiple Shin (rematch) - Sarada gets the best of them all because she activated her Sharingan.

Mind you these are MS Clones. That was just... bad.

Sarada v. Buntan

> Sarada copied a Lightning Technique that was stated you can only utilize be with the Kiba swords. That's where the technique was generated from.
> Sarada having a better performance via the Sharingan in comparison to Sasuke and other Uchiha's. Whereas the Sharingan was more completed in her hands, where Sasuke actually had to upgrade his Sharingan to use things like Genjutsu.

For example. .

I'm not saying she's exactly a May Sue, but if they don't give Sarada actual character flaws, and they continue to make her feats 'less grounded'. I can see how she could end up being Itachi 2.0 in the sense of Sue-ness.

I mean she isn't far off either. At least despite Sasuke's power ups and hand outs, Sasuke at least got his ass handed to him more than he won. Not to mention despite training, he still failed quite effortlessly so.

One of my biggest complaints with this next generation series is that no one actual has conflicts within their characters - yet. They all just seem so well rounded, and only lack in the area when it comes to family relationships.

It's stupid and I hope they do something about it when the series gets more serious.

About the Shins:

When Sarada and Chouchou fought Shin the first time, Sarada neither had her sharingan, nor did she actually use her CES and punch the ground. Plus, that fight only lasted a few seconds before Naruto intervened. It wasn't just the sharingan that made the difference in the multiple Shins fight. It was the CES ground punch. Keep in mind that with the same kind of CES ground punch, Sakura was able to fodderize multiple juubi clones. Plus, the Shins' mangekyou technique wasn't particularly strong, and they didn't even really move to attack Sarada in that last battle (when Sarada bested the multiple Shins). Therefore, it shouldn't be too surprising that Sarada at that point was able to knock away the Shins.

As for the kiba sword lightning techniques, was it ever actually really stated that only those swords could generate those techniques? I mean, if you analyze those techniques, they weren't even so advanced that a skilled enough raiton user couldn't easily replicate those techniques. Take for instance, Buntan's balls of lightning or the lightning fish. Do you really think that Sasuke, Kakashi or a raikage couldn't do those things on their own? Kakashi has already made a lightning dog, so why not a fish? Buntan even showed a form of lightning armor, which the raikages already have on their own (and their usage far surpasses Buntan's).

Now I'm no expert on those 7 swords of the mist (I didn't actually watch the Raiga filler back in part 1), but I personally believe that those lightning swords really just grant the user a mastery of lightning style itself rather than those specific techniques. I mean think about it really:

Buntan's Lightning Burial: Banquet of Lightning technique is literally just a bunch of lightning bolts! How is that any more complex than say chidori stream (which is basically the same thing)?

As for Sarada performing better with the sharingan than Sasuke: That is just Sarada's own personal skill and fighting style.

Sasuke could have pulled the same feats as Sarada, but remember:
Even with 3 tomoe, Sasuke still never copied a thing (after Lee's taijutsu). That is just a lack of usage on Sasuke's part. This in no way reflects on Sarada.

As for Sarada never getting beat or struggling in a fight, she hasn't had the chance to really fight anyone too strong yet. Give it time.

She also does have a character flaw:

She's so serious and stick in the mud all the time (at least in the anime). A hokage needs to be able to open their mind and think from a variety of wilder perspectives (and not always just the by the book astute perspective). It is just like how Boruto convinced her to go talk to Namida and Wasabi in today's episode. This may not seem like much of a flaw, but it is still a flaw that can at least somewhat impede her goal. A complete robot doesn't always make for the best leader. I'm sure as she develops, she will get better with this.

 

[lndra]

When Sarada and Chouchou fought Shin the first time, Sarada neither had her sharingan, nor did she actually use her CES and punch the ground. Plus, that fight only lasted a few seconds before Naruto intervened. It wasn't just the sharingan that made the difference in the multiple Shins fight. It was the CES ground punch. Keep in mind that with the same kind of CES ground punch, Sakura was able to fodderize multiple juubi clones. Plus, the Shins' mangekyou technique wasn't particularly strong, and they didn't even really move to attack Sarada in that last battle (when Sarada bested the multiple Shins). Therefore, it shouldn't be too surprising that Sarada at that point was able to knock away the Shins.

It just didn't quite make sense to me. CES nor a 1T Sharingan should provide that much of a barerier gap against clones who have literal Mangekyo Sharingans.

That would be like Boruto fighting Naruto with Sage Mode, and losing. Then they fight again, Naruto with Sage Mode + Shadow Clones, and Boruto finding a way to beat those instead.

Like, there has to be some type of correlation there. Otherwise it doesn't make sense.

As for the kiba sword lightning techniques, was it ever actually really stated that only those swords could generate those techniques? I mean, if you analyze those techniques, they weren't even so advanced that a skilled enough raiton user couldn't easily replicate those techniques. Take for instance, Buntan's balls of lightning or the lightning fish. Do you really think that Sasuke, Kakashi or a raikage couldn't do those things on their own? Kakashi has already made a lightning dog, so why not a fish? Buntan even showed a form of lightning armor, which the raikages already have on their own (and their usage far surpasses Buntan's).

Yeah. The technique comes directly from the swords, it would be like Sarada copying Samehada's abilities or the Needle's. It doesn't quite make sense, because the technique comes from the swords which is generated from the user's chakra.

It was actually used by Raiga as well, and it correlates with this example. Sarada copying Buntan's actual ninjutsu abilities that she used with hand signs was totally believable, but it started becoming too much when she was able to copy actual techniques from the Kiba Sword. That's was odd.

As for Sarada performing better with the sharingan than Sasuke: That is just Sarada's own personal skill and fighting style.

Sasuke could have pulled the same feats as Sarada, but remember:
Even with 3 tomoe, Sasuke still never copied a thing (after Lee's taijutsu). That is just a lack of usage on Sasuke's part. This in no way reflects on Sarada.

From my understanding of that fight, Sasuke never had the same control over his Sharingan. He was able to cast Genjutsu until the time skip.

Although he never really utilized the Sharingan's copying mechanism to this extent, I don't think that was generally my problem with the feats themselves. They were okay, I'm cool with it. I already listed the only complain I had, and that's probably because SP are terrible writers in that area.

As for Sarada never getting beat or struggling in a fight, she hasn't had the chance to really fight anyone too strong yet. Give it time.

She's had multiple fights on screen now lol. She has barely struggled in a 1 on 1 match, even when she's outnumbered too. It's quite Sue-ish, but I'm obviously giving her the benefit of the doubt because the series is so early.

I'm only warning you how this is going to be a problem, with Sarada's lack of screen time in fights in general sometimes. They can't focus on her losing, so she usually has to come out on top.

Unless they decide to actually make her struggle.

She also does have a character flaw:

She's so serious and stick in the mud all the time (at least in the anime). A hokage needs to be able to open their mind and think from a variety of wilder perspectives (and not always just the by the book astute perspective). It is just like how Boruto convinced her to go talk to Namida and Wasabi in today's episode. This may not seem like much of a flaw, but it is still a flaw that can at least somewhat impede her goal. A complete robot doesn't always make for the best leader. I'm sure as she develops, she will get better with this.

The problem with this flaw is that it doesn't hold any ground. She was struggling with this concept, Boruto talked to her, and now its gone. This wasn't a revolving character flaw, nor was it a problem with her character.

It doesn't even make sense directly when Sarada was okay with involving herself in Boruto and Naruto's family relationship by asking to deliver the Bento. It just seemed like she wasn't confident in her choice, or they tried to foreshadow their future relationship which kind of made it off.

Still this isn't a big issue now, I'm just pointing out problems that can be issues long term. You don't have to worry about ATM.

I'm just pointing out to you that if these writers don't give them actual character flaws before the series reaches some sort of climax, it's going to get really bad.

 

[nandachikara]

One thing People should not overlook is how the female characters particularly Sakura and Sarada blow up the proportion between the two series. (Naruto and Boruto)

Sakura:
Following from its predecessor, Sakura was absolutely mistreated from piss poor development to being shafted. Sakura is a poor representation as a female cast. Sakura has nothing of her own as a character without any kind of goal she aspire to be and brought nothing to the table. In this case she is nothing more but a love interest to Sasuke.


Sarada:
On the other hand, Kishi realized his mistake so he took notes and made Sarada as a refined version of Sakura with better improved personality and given her proper objective thus expanding her future potential role in the story. With that in mind, Kishi glued the idea about Sarada better portrayal as a female cast by becoming a Front battle rather than backup supporter to the point that she was given ALOT of free handout powerup without any indication of buildup and training which so far leaves a huge stain on Sasuke and other uchiha prodigies. This could fluctuate her character progression if she continues to go on a Mary Sue route.


Difference:

Sarada becoming a Mary Sue could be a huge detrimental to the series because atleast with Sakura she is too useless to the plot thus its only limited to her character.

Whereas with Sarada, she can not only potentially devolve her character development but also ruin the entire series for the very same reason why Kakashi with the MS Spam and PS Asspull ruined the foundation from both aspect of Character and Story.

Another example is Obito where a Villain can either make or break the series. In this case, Obito completely shated everything from all the inconsistencies writing, plotholes, ruining the epicness of Tobi with absolutely shit motivation, overloaded with flashback and ruined 2/3 of the entire series with that worst arc.

am sorry but sakura was never a love interest to sasuke,they ended up together because plot