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except of the fact that it's not since he's actively manipulating it. And it still failed
[VS] Deidara&Sasori Vs Kisame&Kakuzu
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Not really. When you actively manipulate something the movements are stiff. We saw that reflected in gaara's sand. Hes able to form solid contructs. Wind pressure is like a whip. You dont actively control the entire whip. Theres a spring to it. Thats the difference. Kakuzu's wind pressure can blow deidei's bombs away whereas gaara can only block them.
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Him actively manipulating it means it's not stagnant. -_- colorful language doesn't change anything. deidara's bombs> Garras sand> pressure damage therefore pressure gamage can't stop the explosions. all it would do is if anything make it stronger. since Explosive release contains fire and Fire> wind.
End of story.
Da ****. No logic. No science. Just "end of story! I win!" :elmo: its not colorful language. Its logic. An engine propels a plane forward. Same thing with kakuzu's wind mask except it blows deidara's explosives away EVEN BEFORE IT FLIES CLOSE TOWARDS THE JOCK DUO.
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No its not false. He is called a tail-less bijuu because he cannot die once fused with samehada. Since the spirit weapon would give him immunity to physical attacks. Yeah, it does since kakashi couldnt kamui away obito's gunbai even though it was interfering in the fight, in a major basis. Even though iron sand is kekkei genkai, meaning its spiritual, since it means "blood inheritance" which refers to the soul in narutoverse, Kisame can still shred intangible forces like magnetism because its a spirit weapon.
He could react. He could form seals when seventh gate used hirudora and create shark bomb.
Bijū have the inability to be killed. Since they're spiritual beings. Same thing here. Kisame is tail lacking bijū. He is not immune to iron sand since its a kekkei genkai, but he sure as hell has the speed to dodge it as well as the means to negate the poison if he do get struck( samehada's fusion immortality) and race towards sasori and get some of his chakra and convert them to stamina and heal his poison affected cells and absorb his soul by grabbing his heart like he did to B.
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Lol kekkei genkai combination has nothing to do with individual elemental advantages once merged and converted into a whole different compound. If that was water would be negating boil release since it contains water or earth element would be negating lava since it contains earth. Lmao to that logic.
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No logic? i already explained it to you a wall of wind(pressure damage) is weaker than a wall of sand(garras sand). Therefore it cant stop deidara's bombs.
Saying wind is like a whip is colorful language, since such an absurd simile doesn't change the above. Dont get mad cuz i called u on your crap. Now your trying to make a comparison between an airplane design to minimize drag and cut through air efficiently and pressure damage which is a wind wall. -_- Like :elmo:
at the end of the day its still and explosion that contains fire. You can set the chakra principles aside and you;d still have wind going directly into what fire feeds on, oxygen.
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its a blast of wind, created by air pressure:
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now youre doubling back? didn't I already shit on that?
Gaara's sand isn't stagnant.
It's not a wall of wind, you're reducing it to that in order to turn it into Gaara's sand lmfao. Pressure damage is a blast of wind which has a force of it's own. Deidara's bombs can potentially get pushed back this is basic physics, Gaara's sand won't be pushing anything back the worst it can do is grab hold/run into the bombs and stop them, unless you're gonna argue Gaara is gonna be punching the bombs back with the sand you can stop this.
This is like if someone tried oversimplifying Shinra Tensei into a wall, it's more than that it has push back properties which Gaara's sand has absolutely nothing to do with.
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Why not at bold. He actively controls it As a matter of fact he's already done so:
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Its actively closing in on deidara. Still got blown the fck back. Physics right? So sand which is much denser than air that already pushed back against deidara's bombs failed to stop contain or force back the explosion on deidara? yet you think wind will somehow fare better :elmo:
even though explosions suck on wind by their evry nature. :elmo:
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and thats just C1.
C2 was capable of flat out destroying V2 Sasuke's wing. Someone who 9 times out of 10 would tank Pressure damage while in that state.
Even when combined with searing ,migraine a water wall from kakashi was able to stop it in its tracks. cut it out. Im getting sick of this overhype now.
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the explosion got through that's how he got out. U see the smoke there. -_-
The Bing bold Font BLAST. Top left panel. Doesn't get any clearer than that.
Wait is that the scan in question? Lmfaoo dude that's just his sand blocking Deidara's path, it's not a force pushing Deidara back. I don't know what made you think this was a good reference to use for a blast of wind with its own offensive force. Not to mention sand =/= wind.
The only time Gaara was extending his sand out AKA a pushing force, Deidara had to maneuver around it with his bombs.
This is like arguing if a chidori can break through Gaara's sand defense than it should break through pressure damage, lmfao pressure damage will push that arm right back, its penetrative properties don't mean squat as the attack isn't even reaching the user. Stop with this terrible logic.
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the willful ignorance -_- I cant.
hes closing it in on deidara. Deidara bomb blasted it out of the way -_- opposite forces yet deidara's won.
Poor comparison. Since chidori is a piercing attack. Deidara's explosions are omnidirectional.
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Kisame has been portrayed as the strongest of these bunch. He shits on either Deidara and Sasori individually. Teamed with kakuzu and they shit all over them.
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Smh, the only time Gaara is on offense and Deidara is forced to make his bombs maneuver around the sand, the bombs are effectively being stopped by his sand.
You fail to realize you aren't helping yourself with that scan, Deidara simply caused an explosion which gave him an opening in the sand defense.
Lmfao funny thing is it doesn't even matter if his bombs are pushed back or not, the only thing that matters is that they are stopped once they reach a force, before they reach Gaara, or in this case Kakuzu. Even ignoring the bevy of differences between the physics and properties of sand and wind.
Let me give you a visual representation of what happens to Deidara's bombs in midair
What's your argument that Deidara's clay figures are not gonna stop and fight through the wind lmfao? Seriously stop this.
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Lmfao funny thing is it doesn't even matter if his bombs are pushed back or not, the only thing that matters is that they are stopped once they reach a force, before they reach Gaara, or in this case Kakuzu. Even ignoring the bevy of differences between the physics and properties of sand and wind.
Let me give you a visual representation of what happens to Deidara's bombs in midair
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What's your argument that Deidara's clay figures are not gonna stop and fight through the wind lmfao? Seriously stop this.
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Its the same sand on the offence in the scan i posted, since its tring to trap him. and Deidara's C1 blew through it. Whereas the scan u posted isnt opposite forces since they the go past each other.
Sand defense? Pretty sure you mean sand offence. Since the only sand on defence is surrounding garra. Not deidara.
Except for the fact that you can't ignore that since wind makes explosions stronger.
what even is. Why is it that you and the other fckboy have to make these wild ass similes to even come close to making sense, yet still fail miserably?
Let me tell you what's gonna happen right from deidara's mouth:
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-_- Only this time its gonna be even stronger with the addition of more wind, courtesy of Pressure damage. And neither kakuzu or kisame has speed feats that put them on sasuke's lvl so there getting hit. And in the very slim chance they survive the blast iron sand shrapnel poisons them. instantly dulling their reactions and movement speed. making it all the more easier to get clapped again.