...Why do the Right typically hate Intellectualism?

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I think both sides are a bit ridiculous at times.

Funny how right wingers had no problem with you and fiji saying this but left wingers disagree, dislike the post and get upset ITT.

OT: Both sides are this way. A lot of people on the left deny differences between races, the one's on the right deny just about everything regarding the climate though. Both can think whatever they want imo. If you can't convince the opposing side arguing becomes a waste of time.
 

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Funny how right wingers had no problem with you and fiji saying this but left wingers disagree, dislike the post and get upset ITT.

OT: Both sides are this way. A lot of people on the left deny differences between races, the one's on the right deny just about everything regarding the climate though. Both can think whatever they want imo. If you can't convince the opposing side arguing becomes a waste of time.

They're too indoctrinated to notice their own bias. In a moment where both sides of the spectrum and come together, hold hands, and say, "hey, we both have stupid people on our side", the deny that ever being the case. They'd rather double down or ignore their bullshit.
 

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Funny how right wingers had no problem with you and fiji saying this but left wingers disagree, dislike the post and get upset ITT.

OT: Both sides are this way. A lot of people on the left deny differences between races, the one's on the right deny just about everything regarding the climate though. Both can think whatever they want imo. If you can't convince the opposing side arguing becomes a waste of time.

I personally see both sides do it all of the time. I won't blame all liberals. It is more apparent because this base generally leans to the left.
 

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They're too indoctrinated to notice their own bias. In a moment where both sides of the spectrum and come together, hold hands, and say, "hey, we both have stupid people on our side", the deny that ever being the case. They'd rather double down or ignore their bullshit.

Funny how right wingers had no problem with you and fiji saying this but left wingers disagree, dislike the post and get upset ITT.

OT: Both sides are this way. A lot of people on the left deny differences between races, the one's on the right deny just about everything regarding the climate though. Both can think whatever they want imo. If you can't convince the opposing side arguing becomes a waste of time.

Yes because both sides equally deny scientific fact and attempt to reform education to teach creationism over evolution.

No one's denying that dumb people exist on both sides. That is obvious and not needed to be said. The fact that you're creating this straw-man only proves your dishonesty to the discussion.

The argument is that there is a disparity between the two sides when it comes to the acquisition of knowledge; which there is.
 
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Yes because both sides equally deny scientific fact and attempt to reform education to teach creationism over evolution.

No one's denying that dumb people exist on both sides. That is obvious and not needed to be said. The fact that you're creating this straw-man only proves your dishonesty to the discussion.

The argument is that there is a disparity between the two sides when it comes to the acquisition of knowledge; which there is.
Then why did you dislike my comment :(
 

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You said it exists "equally on both sides."

I'm just not trying to be biased. I don't know every liberal or every conservative. I can only judge based on what I've seen and it seems pretty even to me. Sure there might be things conservatives say that I maybe don't agree with(The same for liberals), but they aren't really 'wrong'.
 

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I'm just not trying to be biased. I don't know every liberal or every conservative. I can only judge based on what I've seen and it seems pretty even to me. Sure there might be things conservatives say that I maybe don't agree with(The same for liberals), but they aren't really 'wrong'.

But you are inadvertently being biased toward the right by trying to put them on an even scale on this issue when they are not.

To make the comparison, that's exactly what the mainstream media such as CNN does. They try not to be "biased" and because of that, the truth is muddied and lost.

Well that's why there are statistics that you can reference in order to paint a clearer picture. What you see is only a fraction of what there is; and if "what you see" is your primary source, then how can you make a credible argument?
 
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But you are inadvertently being biased toward the right by trying to put them on an even scale on this issue when they are not.

To make the comparison, that's exactly what the mainstream media such as CNN does. They try not to be "biased" and because of that, the truth is muddied and lost.

Well that's why there are statistics that you can reference in order to paint a clearer picture. What you see is only a fraction of what there is; and if "what you see" is your primary source, then how can you make a credible argument?

I wasn't making an argument. I was sharing my opinion. I didn't look up the statistics and do any googles. Sure the stats may say one side is one way or the other is another way but I don't care honestly. The country is already divided. If people aren't trying to bring it back together then I don't care. I'm gonna get my money, support my friends and family, and keep it moving. F*ck being a liberal, conservative, Republican, or Democrat. When we can stop treating everyone like shit(regardless of political leaning or personal views(As long as they aren't hateful)) and remember we're all Americans then I'll start caring again.
 

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I wasn't making an argument. I was sharing my opinion. I didn't look up the statistics and do any googles. Sure the stats may say one side is one way or the other is another way but I don't care honestly. The country is already divided. If people aren't trying to bring it back together then I don't care. I'm gonna get my money, support my friends and family, and keep it moving. F*ck being a liberal, conservative, Republican, or Democrat. When we can stop treating everyone like shit(regardless of political leaning or personal views(As long as they aren't hateful)) and remember we're all Americans then I'll start caring again.

Well it would be ideal if everyone loved thy neighbor and treated other like they wanted to be treated, but unfortunately that's not the reality.

There are people who favor implementing policies that takes away health insurance, destroying the economy, going to war, and paving the way to the extinction of humanity. Simply being friendly will not solve anything and by running away from that reality will only keep the status quo.
 
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I wasn't making an argument. I was sharing my opinion. I didn't look up the statistics and do any googles. Sure the stats may say one side is one way or the other is another way but I don't care honestly. The country is already divided. If people aren't trying to bring it back together then I don't care. I'm gonna get my money, support my friends and family, and keep it moving. F*ck being a liberal, conservative, Republican, or Democrat. When we can stop treating everyone like shit(regardless of political leaning or personal views(As long as they aren't hateful)) and remember we're all Americans then I'll start caring again.

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"Checked out here. Jeremy Lin is a famous tall Asian... Please know what you're talking about before you throw around huge, ignorant claims like 'asians are shorter than average' hahaha"

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"Exceptions to the rule, do not disprove the rule". For some reason, I feel like you were serious with your reply, and that's what scares me the most. "Everyday, man strays farther and farther away from God's light"

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Christ, sorry for correcting you. Talk about blowing up.

I actually only stopped reading because the first thing you said was wrong and denying/willfully overlooking an infamous piece of propaganda immediately showed you didn't quite know what you were talking about. We were talking about the specific stereotypes that this film proudly tried to indoctrinate into people it's right-wing appeal...and questioning why such films portray intelligence like this as it clearly has a lot of bearing on real life values too.
 

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Well, this thread sadly got derailed fast. There was some interesting on-topic talk at the start though.

The thread/convo, to reiterate... is about the right's self-chosen value of anti-intellectualism.
 

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"Checked out here. Jeremy Lin is a famous tall Asian... Please know what you're talking about before you throw around huge, ignorant claims like 'asians are shorter than average' hahaha"

"Checked out here. Ronda Rousey is a famous strong woman... Please know what you're talking about before you throw around huge, ignorant claims like 'women are weaker than men' hahaha"

"Checked out here. Mercury is a liquid at room temperature... Please know what you're talking about before you throw around huge, ignorant claims like 'metal is solid at room temperature' hahaha"

"Checked out here. Wyclef Jean is a famous wealthy haitian... Please know what you're talking about before you throw around huge, ignorant claims like 'haiti is a third world country' hahaha"

"Checked out here. John McCain advocates for large government military spending... Please know what you're talking about before you throw around huge, ignorant claims like 'republicans are conservative' hahaha"

"Checked out here. Ultranationalist Buddhist monks in Berma are violent... Please know what you're talking about before you throw around huge, ignorant claims like 'buddhist advocate for peace' hahaha"

"Checked out here. Isaiah Thomas is only 5'9''... Please know what you're talking about before you throw around huge, ignorant claims like 'NBA players are tall' hahaha"

"Checked out here. Platypuses lay eggs... Please know what you're talking about before you throw around huge, ignorant claims like 'mammals have live births' hahaha"

"Checked out here. I've seen a deer eat a bird... Please know what you're talking about before you throw around huge, ignorant claims like 'deer are herbivores' hahaha"


"Dis wun moov-E I saw wuz write wing, so hollywuud aint libureal, dur hur! plz no wut ur tolkn abut b4 u mak accuzashuns, DUR HUR!!"


"Exceptions to the rule, do not disprove the rule". For some reason, I feel like you were serious with your reply, and that's what scares me the most. "Everyday, man strays farther and farther away from God's light"

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Saying that the Left and Right have an equal amout of influence in Hollywood because a few right-wing movies exist = bad

Saying that the Left and Right are both equally anti-intellectual even though the Right denies evolution, the Big Bang, archaeology, and climate change more than the Left does = good?

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Saying that the Left and Right have an equal about of influence in Hollywood because a few right-wing movies exist = bad

Saying that the Left and Right are both equally anti-intellectual even though the Right denies evolution, the Big Bang, archaeology, and climate change than the Left does = good?

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Nobody was saying that first point though.

Was just trying to keep the conversation on-track by using stereotypes from a specific piece of propaganda without going into 'but what about'-isms.
 

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Saying that the Left and Right have an equal about of influence in Hollywood because a few right-wing movies exist = bad

Saying that the Left and Right are both equally anti-intellectual even though the Right denies evolution, the Big Bang, archaeology, and climate change than the Left does = good?

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Well it would be ideal if everyone loved thy neighbor and treated other like they wanted to be treated, but unfortunately that's not the reality.

There are people who favor implementing policies that takes away health insurance, destroying the economy, going to war, and paving the way to the extinction of humanity. Simply being friendly will not solve anything and by running away from that reality will only keep the status quo.

Who said I'm running away from anything? I just said I don't care about all of the labels and political parties dictating everything. Two political parties have America by the balls or vagina and everyone is too dumb to realize that they are the issue. Instead of getting rid of the main issue, we'll sit here and argue that liberals are dumb or conservatives are dumb. We'll argue that democrats suck and republicans suck. What we won't do is agree that both ****ing suck and both are a cancer to the US. We've become entirely too tribal.


Saying that the Left and Right are both equally anti-intellectual even though the Right denies evolution, the Big Bang, archaeology, and climate change than the Left does = good?

3/4 of those things are theories and can be openly denied as much as people want. You can't decide who does and doesn't agree with a theory.
 

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Who said I'm running away from anything? I just said I don't care about all of the labels and political parties dictating everything. Two political parties have America by the balls or vagina and everyone is too dumb to realize that they are the issue. Instead of getting rid of the main issue, we'll sit here and argue that liberals are dumb or conservatives are dumb. We'll argue that democrats suck and republicans suck. What we won't do is agree that both ****ing suck and both are a cancer to the US. We've become entirely too tribal.
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Liberalism and conservatism are ideologies, not political parties. You can't get rid of ideologies.


3/4 of those things are theories and can be openly denied as much as people want. You can't decide who does and doesn't agree with a theory.

Gravity is also "just a theory." Scientific theories require a lot of evidence, and all 3 of those have all of the evidence pointing towards them being true.
 
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Who said I'm running away from anything? I just said I don't care about all of the labels and political parties dictating everything. Two political parties have America by the balls or vagina and everyone is too dumb to realize that they are the issue. Instead of getting rid of the main issue, we'll sit here and argue that liberals are dumb or conservatives are dumb. We'll argue that democrats suck and republicans suck. What we won't do is agree that both ****ing suck and both are a cancer to the US. We've become entirely too tribal.

As Uzumaki Macho said, liberalism and conservatism are ideologies.

And yes, people realize that there is a two party issue. It's actually a major factor as to why Trump won because people are sick of the establishment which don't represent the people themselves.
 
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