[VS] Deidara&Sasori Vs Kisame&Kakuzu
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Kakuzu shits on Sasori, and can shit on Deidara. Kisame shits on both as well. You put 2 people that are above Team 1 individually, and they shit.
It's only a mid diff because of Sasori + Deidara teamwork.
Since masks are out, I assume Sasori & Deidara are airborne? Deidara avoided plenty of gaara's attacks, don't see him getting blasted out of the air from a theoretical chakra blast that's most closely related to the ones dodged & intercepted by the likes of Kakashi & in one case Ino, Choji & Shikamaru.
Chakra siphoning/power-up is not theoretical. Its been done many times in the Manga but not by Kisame though one can logically assume it can happen. This means Kakuzu's elements get a huge boost in terms of damage, radius, etc. Not to mention when he uses the mask in a combo. Like he can do 2 mask combos on each arm with Samehada power up. Team 2 will destroy the battlefield and Team 1 will fall from the air and force to fight on the ground. DeiDei's explosives get blown away and Sasori's puppet army gets destroyed. Team 2 just repeat their first assault again and Team 1 gets ripped to shreds.
The ability itself is theoretical, because we've never seen it in action. That means we don't know what exactly the radius would be & speed of the attack would be. All we know about the attack really is that it's based on attacks we've already seen, which were slow enough to be avoided & reacted to by Ino, Choji & Kakashi.
What do you mean they'll fall from air? They have to be hit in the first place. If you scale of the speed of gaara's sand, Deidara can cover pretty large distances pretty fast. The combo of speed & radius has to be huge ( and I'm not sure that the quantity of chakra will increase the speed of the attacks in this case ) . To reach that point, Kisame would have to put a certain amount of chakra into Kakuzu, which gives team 1 time to attack or extend the distance.
Doesn't matter if we see it or not. Its possible because Kisame siphons chakra with Samehada. We've already seen that. And Kakuzu's wind jutsu radius is huge. It'll be bigger. Its not something you can dodge. You have to get away from the radius. Team 1 has no time to attack because Kisame has water clones + Kakuzu can strike. Samehada siphoning chakra doesn't mean Team 2 is a sitting duck. Shit, Kisame can just hand over Kakuzu the sword and Kisame will do his own thing while Kakuzu starts blasting away. Its going to be destructive and I don't think Team 1 can deal with the firepower. Its just too much.
Clearly Samehada + Kisame chakra exchange is proof Kisame is capable of siphoning chakra. That, and Kisame without Samehada was shown to absorb chakra. So... That shouldn't even be argued rather he can, or can't transfer chakra into Kakuzu.
I'm not saying that he can't transfer chakra. I'm saying that we don't know how big the attack will be, how fast it will be etc... And that's because we've never seen it. In that sense it's theoretical. What you're seeing in your head as a big blast may be smaller or larger than what i'm seeing in my head.
Okay so, Kakuzu gets an immense range buff that's so large airborne Sasori & Deidara with meters of distance between them can't avoid it. Of course we don't really know if this attack is fast enough that Deidara can't just fly backwards / up & outrun it with the distance gained by going airborn in the first place ( kakashi could jump in-between kakuzu lightning attack & shikamaru from a farther distance before it reached him. Deidara could maintain distance from Kakashi in chase. Kakuzu felt the need to pin down Kakashi & Team 10 before he blasted them, which wouldn't be nessecary if they couldn't avoid. Team 10 dodged the fire move, which has comparable radius to the wind move. The wind move wasn't fully dodged by Kakashi cause he was being held by Hidan in CQC. Deidara casually avoided many massive Shukaku arms from Gaara by flying backwards. ) I don't wanna assume that adding chakra to an attack ( excluding magnet release ) will increase it's speed, because if theres more chakra in it, it's mass and thus it's weight is increasing. I don't know it seems really stretchy to me.
In any case, Deidara can c3 in response?
Its definitely bigger. Not smaller. Doesn't matter what we see in our heads because we're all reasonably logical. I don't know about speed but sheer size and power will definitely be increased. Don't forget False Darkness is a fast jutsu. That gets a power-up as well. Kakashi has 3T pre-cog. Team 1 does not....
Deidara and Sasori win. Deidara's clay jellyfish flipped over turtle island, it easily bursts Kisame's water dome. Deidara and Sasori can both fly so the dome isn't capturing either of them. GSB is blocked with iron sand or dispersed with an explosion. Sasori's puppets eventually overwhelm Kisame or C3 kills him. Kakuzu's masks get bombarded with clay birds from above while the real Kakuzu gets overwhelmed by 100 puppets.
Team 1 mid diff
Team 1 mid diff
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There is no proof that kisame can give chakra to people. And while samehada can he does so independently of kisame at his own discretion. The only ppl that can gift chakra freely to my knowledge are Minato, Naruto, Sakura, and Tsunade.
OT: Team 1 wins, Iron sand Can easily insulate Deidara's bombs from Kakazu's lightning attack. Then its business as usual. Blow em ep and if they survive chances are they're already poisoned.
OT: Team 1 wins, Iron sand Can easily insulate Deidara's bombs from Kakazu's lightning attack. Then its business as usual. Blow em ep and if they survive chances are they're already poisoned.
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