Top 10 Naturally Strongest Ninjas Debates

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No body modifications, no external sources. Just straight your own chakra and own capabilities

1. 8th gate guy
2. Hashirama
3. Indra/Ashura
4. 3rd Raikage/MS Obito (One MS)
5. MS Madara
6. Shisui/Itachi
7. Orochimaru/Tobirama
8.ISM Jiraiya/SM Naruto(No Kyuubi)/MS Sasuke
9.Adult Rock Lee
10. Kimmimaru (No curse mark)

I didnt include hagaromo as he's not really a ninja. Neither is Hamura.
 

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:lol @ this list. Kimimaro being anywhere near a top 10? Without the Curse Mark? Are you serious? Kimimaro in place above people like Ay, Tsunade, Sakura, Minato, Mei, etc etc? :lol

Characters with feats only.

1. Gai - could arguably be number 2.
2. Hashirama - could arguably be number 1.
3. DMS Obito (Susanoo [not PS obviously] and Dual Kamui)
4. Tobirama (Edo Tensei, Gojo, Hiraishin)
5. MS Itachi (Yata, Totsuka, V4 Susanoo)
6. MS Sasuke (Enton, Amaterasu, V4 Susanoo)
7. 3rd Raikage
8. Minato
9. SM Naruto
10. Gaara
 

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:wut: Isn't SM an external source? Especially in Jiraiya's case.


:lol @ this list. Kimimaro being anywhere near a top 10? Without the Curse Mark? Are you serious? Kimimaro in place above people like Ay, Tsunade, Sakura, Minato, Mei, etc etc? :lol

Characters with feats only.

1. Gai - could arguably be number 2.
2. Hashirama - could arguably be number 1.
3. DMS Obito (Susanoo [not PS obviously] and Dual Kamui)
4. Tobirama (Edo Tensei, Gojo, Hiraishin)
5. MS Itachi (Yata, Totsuka, V4 Susanoo)
6. MS Sasuke (Enton, Amaterasu, V4 Susanoo)
7. 3rd Raikage
8. Minato
9. SM Naruto
10. Gaara
Madara isn't in your top 10? Or Kakashi(depending)
 
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1.Madara (his name struck fear in the NV was enough to unite the world)
1. Hanabi Hime (pure Byakugan with Tenseigan eyes)
2. Itachi
3. Guy
4. Hashirama
5. Obito(should be up there with Itachi but if I did that some people would just become :salt:y)
6. Nagato (because he naturally activated the rinnegan)
6. Sasuke
7. Orochimaru
8. Kisame/Bee

There are 10 in total. The last 1 was too tough to call.
 
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Madara has no feats, and Kakashi's Sharingan is external power.
Well he's shown large scale katon Uchiha reflection from his gunbai(should still have Susano'o) and Uchiha sealing jutsu that he taught Obito.

True regarding Kakashi tho i thought his Sharingan would sound since Jiraiya was added to the list and his SM needs ma amd pa.
 

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Well he's shown large scale katon Uchiha reflection from his gunbai(should still have Susano'o) and Uchiha sealing jutsu that he taught Obito.

True regarding Kakashi tho i thought his Sharingan would sound since Jiraiya was added to the list and his SM needs ma amd pa.
We haven't seen how strong his Susanoo would be exactly, so I'd rather not rank him. He's either below or right above Itachi. Definitely stronger than Sasuke.

Summonings traditionally have counted as someone's power outside of blatant violations like Edo Tensei since that is the purpose of summoned creatures.
 

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Well he's shown large scale katon Uchiha reflection from his gunbai(should still have Susano'o) and Uchiha sealing jutsu that he taught Obito.

True regarding Kakashi tho i thought his Sharingan would sound since Jiraiya was added to the list and his SM needs ma amd pa.
24 hour stamina and the ability to summon and control the 9 tails with only sharingan 3 tomeo.
 
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No body modifications, no external sources. Just straight your own chakra and own capabilities

1. 8th gate guy
2. Hashirama
3. Indra/Ashura
4. 3rd Raikage/MS Obito (One MS)
5. MS Madara
6. Shisui/Itachi
7. Orochimaru/Tobirama
8.ISM Jiraiya/SM Naruto(No Kyuubi)/MS Sasuke
9.Adult Rock Lee
10. Kimmimaru (No curse mark)

I didnt include hagaromo as he's not really a ninja. Neither is Hamura.
..... :|
 

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We haven't seen how strong his Susanoo would be exactly, so I'd rather not rank him. He's either below or right above Itachi. Definitely stronger than Sasuke.

Summonings traditionally have counted as someone's power outside of blatant violations like Edo Tensei since that is the purpose of summoned creatures.
True it's hard to gauge/ tho i'd say hed be stronger than Itachi Obito etc but still weaker than Hashirama.

True again but OP said no external power and only your own chakra by that, that's why i assumed SM is banned.


24 hour stamina and the ability to summon and control the 9 tails with only sharingan 3 tomeo.
That's EMS Madara. EMS Madara used Izuna's MS for a chakra boost.
 

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Guy
Ay3rd
Ay4th
Hiruzen
Minato
Tobirama
Kisame
Mei
Tsunade
Gengetsu Hozuki

Not in that order but these ninja's are all naturally strong without doujutsu being jj ,jin & transmigrant or being MC's..
 
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:lol @ this list. Kimimaro being anywhere near a top 10? Without the Curse Mark? Are you serious? Kimimaro in place above people like Ay, Tsunade, Sakura, Minato, Mei, etc etc? :lol

Characters with feats only.

1. Gai - could arguably be number 2.
2. Hashirama - could arguably be number 1.
3. DMS Obito (Susanoo [not PS obviously] and Dual Kamui)
4. Tobirama (Edo Tensei, Gojo, Hiraishin)
5. MS Itachi (Yata, Totsuka, V4 Susanoo)
6. MS Sasuke (Enton, Amaterasu, V4 Susanoo)
7. 3rd Raikage
8. Minato
9. SM Naruto
10. Gaara
Is this in order ?
 
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