Uzumaki life FORCE bodies are LEGIT

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And this is the part where you make the mistake Minato was a full grown man in his prime with huge chakra Reserves and just housing the Nine-Tails made his body completely numb and that was not the Nine-Tails trying his best to break out at half power.

Naruto the baby house the other nine tails with no problem at all understand this a freshly born baby not even an hour old

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Nice fanfic concentration of kurama's chakra into a small body is killing you like Naruto did. The alliance took kuramas chakra with 0 negative affects it wasn't poison to them at all. It was also kuramas healing ability which restored Naruto.
Hardly a naruto feat and kind of blows a hole through your fanfic.

That was because naruto transferred that chakra to them in a way their body could accept it remember everybody has different chakra keys and Naruto's able to match everybody's in the Shinobi Alliance but pure nine tails chakra is dangerous that's why people were surprised that the Gold and Silver brothers were alive after eating the Flesh of the Ninetails because the chakra alone would killed most people
 

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no killer bee's chakra isn't the same thing like Naruto's

a) Naruto didn't even tame Kuruma to become a non negative mass of chakra, rather he just took it for his own, which once fused with his had that life force coming out of it (eventually Kuruma and him bonded and we got Bijuu mode... which makes it another story entirely).

b) If Bee could do the same he would be sharing the chakra with everyone as well

c) Naruto had to still even then rearrange the chakra so that it was compatible with everyone else and their chakra


Kuruma even stated it in that panel I showed you


if that blood didn't matter or it wasn't there he wouldn't be stating it.... But now Kuruma is cooperating with both Minato and Naruto so he too can help out

In the early stage Naruto removed kurama's chakra from kurama will which he would access using KCM it's no longer toxic or poisonous that's why he can use it. This chakra amplifies Naruto's naturally weak chakra to high levels.

Bees bonding is also different, his seal is different however the chakra does carry the will of the tailed beasts so it wold be the same for him. Him being able to share his chakra or not is probably because kurama operates on different parameters to him. All the tailed beasts are different in how they operate.

Naruto's moulding chakra was to match types not to make it non lethal since the hate of the 9 tails has been removed by that point and it's helping voluntarily.
 

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That was because naruto transferred that chakra to them in a way their body could accept it remember everybody has different chakra keys and Naruto's able to match everybody's in the Shinobi Alliance but pure nine tails chakra is dangerous that's why people were surprised that the Gold and Silver brothers were alive after eating the Flesh of the Ninetails because the chakra alone would killed most people

9 tails's natural chakra is dangerous because it's full of its hate here the toad explains how the 9 tails chakra and I'll need to be separated to make it okay to use.



Do scroll through the chapter once you separate the will thw danger is gone. Once the malice is gone then the chakra is okay so the alliance would've been okay.
 

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In the early stage Naruto removed kurama's chakra from kurama will which he would access using KCM it's no longer toxic or poisonous that's why he can use it. This chakra amplifies Naruto's naturally weak chakra to high levels.

Bees bonding is also different, his seal is different however the chakra does carry the will of the tailed beasts so it wold be the same for him. Him being able to share his chakra or not is probably because kurama operates on different parameters to him. All the tailed beasts are different in how they operate.

Naruto's moulding chakra was to match types not to make it non lethal since the hate of the 9 tails has been removed by that point and it's helping voluntarily.

again that doesn't change the fact that Naruto

a) can house such deadly chakra in the first place (let alone as a baby)
b) Naruto having to change that chakra first to be compatible for every different Shinobi before distributing it to anyone else

a feat that Kurama said was due to multiple reasons like Kuruma now cooperating so he can do it too but also due to Kushina's blood



If Naruto gave the chakra unchanged then it would be too toxic for regular shinobi to handle

hence why Konoha doesn't just grab anyone to be the 9tail host and thus why Hashirama married the Uzumaki clan

they have the sealing techs

but also the bodies to handle those sealing techs and Kyuubi chakra
 

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Karin did not tank Amaterasu. Sasuke awoken Enton, dispersing the flames.

What you said was pure fanfic :lol
 

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Because of Sasuke's doing.

:lmao:

Sasuke turning it off

I am talking about the flame's burns

aka 3rd degree burns

but nonetheless the more impressive feat is just chugging along after that spiral zetsu attack
 

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Sasuke turning it off

I am talking about the flame's burns

aka 3rd degree burns

but nonetheless the more impressive feat is just chugging along after that spiral zetsu attack

She survived Amaterasu because of Sasuke's doing just like she survived being stabbed by him, because Sakura healed her.

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She didn't tank sh*t :lol

Everybody knows that Amaterasu is the most nerfed jutsu in NV history :lol

 
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She survived Amaterasu because of Sasuke's doing just like she survived being stabbed by him, because Sakura healed her.

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She didn't tank sh*t :lol

Everybody knows that Amaterasu is the most nerfed jutsu in NV history :lol

Again turning it off doesn't reverse the damage already applied


Plus Karin in the war tanking that wood release>>>>>>>> Karin who got chidori stabbed by Sasuke


And even then the reason she survived that stab and didn't die before Sakura could heal her is due to being an uzumaki
 

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Naruto's life force >>> Juubi :sigar:
 

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And this is the part where you make the mistake Minato was a full grown man in his prime with huge chakra Reserves and just housing the Nine-Tails made his body completely numb and that was not the Nine-Tails trying his best to break out at half power.

Naruto the baby house the other nine tails with no problem at all understand this a freshly born baby not even an hour old

He used the reper death seal it kills you when it used. He is literally dying cause he used it. Naruto had it sealed away in a cage in his body.
 

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again that doesn't change the fact that Naruto

a) can house such deadly chakra in the first place (let alone as a baby)
b) Naruto having to change that chakra first to be compatible for every different Shinobi before distributing it to anyone else

a feat that Kurama said was due to multiple reasons like Kuruma now cooperating so he can do it too but also due to Kushina's blood



If Naruto gave the chakra unchanged then it would be too toxic for regular shinobi to handle

hence why Konoha doesn't just grab anyone to be the 9tail host and thus why Hashirama married the Uzumaki clan

they have the sealing techs

but also the bodies to handle those sealing techs and Kyuubi chakra

This body feat for the uzumaki doesn't exist it's a senju feat as the manga made it clear. The uzumaki had strong life force feat. If you have a scan confirming they have strong bodies (like the Senju then I'll accept it).

As for how the nine tails was sealed into Naruto it was different to Minato since Minato's sealing was because of the reaper seal. So it was pulled into Minato's soul for more detail look at Sarutobi vs the 2 Hokage.

In Naruto's case it was sealed using the uzumaki sealing method and not the reaper seal so it's effects on Naruto would be been different as they were enhancing him, healing him toxic chakra doesn't do that to you.

I don't want to keep repeating myself but the chakra became non toxic when kurama's hate was removed this is manga fact. So Naruto changing the chakra to be non toxic is fanfic since kurama's never says that. What kurama means it he makes it easier for them to use/handle.

Hashirama never stated he married mito for the sealing techniques that's fanfic. It's more likely being the leader of the Senju he married her to keep the bond strong. You need to stop making things up about uzumaki and strong bodies this isn't their feat they have confirmed strong life force.
 

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No it doesn't you see you've missed the point Naruto healed everything prior because of the 9 tails chakra not because of his life force. The seal itself was set to enhance Naruto naturally kakashi pointed this out many times before. In fact the whole in Naruto's chest from Sasuke's chidori was healed by the 9 tails. The 9 tails heals Naruto naturally but when he draws on its chakra it kills him shortening his lifespan. Jiraiya explained this to Tsunade and when they returned to konoha. At a base level it heals him and once he brings it out like he did in 4 tails and above it hurts him.
Anyway Sasuke stabs Naruto through the chest and Naruto's drawing on kyubi chakra.



Kyubi chakra heals Naruto even from a hole in his chest

Again, Kakashi is not a good resource when it comes to knowledge of the Uzumaki clan because he has provided us zero information about the Uzumaki clan. The one time Kakashi stated Naruto healing ability was because of the 9 tails chakra Naruto didn't have access to 9 tails chakra because Oro sealed it off. That means his heal ability couldn't have come from the 9 tails chakra.

Naruto's healing ability during his battle with Sasuke was because the 9 tails chakra enhanced his life force. Neither the manga nor databook has ever stated the 9 tails gives his jinchuriki healing ability. Yet, we know the Uzumaki clan possess powerful life force that can be used to heal. Tail beast chakra have always been described as being very dangerous, even without the hatred. That's the reason not anybody can become a jinchuriki.
 

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Having Jougan is anything but 'thinned out', btw Naruto no longer has basic Uzumaki chakra, he has Hagoromo's full body strength

Himawari and Boruto are quarter Uzumaki, any sort of life force you're hoping for them to have is out of their reach.
 

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Again, Kakashi is not a good resource when it comes to knowledge of the Uzumaki clan because he has provided us zero information about the Uzumaki clan. The one time Kakashi stated Naruto healing ability was because of the 9 tails chakra Naruto didn't have access to 9 tails chakra because Oro sealed it off. That means his heal ability couldn't have come from the 9 tails chakra.

Naruto's healing ability during his battle with Sasuke was because the 9 tails chakra enhanced his life force. Neither the manga nor databook has ever stated the 9 tails gives his jinchuriki healing ability. Yet, we know the Uzumaki clan possess powerful life force that can be used to heal. Tail beast chakra have always been described as being very dangerous, even without the hatred. That's the reason not anybody can become a jinchuriki.

Kl keep denying mangafacts Naruto has no independent healing feats. Kakashi doesn't know about the uzumaki clan when he was the student of Minato. He obviouosy didnt know who his wife was or what she was or any abilities she had. I hate to break it to you but having powerful life force or chakra doesn't heal you, having regenerative powers given to you by 9 tails chakra does heal you as the manga shows. Or a healing jutsu/ability. If you fan show 1 uzumaki who heals because of their life force from injuriesinstead of using jutsu I'd take your fanfic seriously. Even the only legit healer among the uzumaki clan uses a jutsu to heal herself and others.
To deny mangafacts like the kyubi chakra which is evidently leaking out and filling narutos wound and healing him is not the Kyubi's chakra's doing and attributing it to naruto is fanfic 2.0

Ps. The manga facts are legit because kakashi saying those words are because kishi wants us to understand what's actually going on otherwise the purpose of the dialogue is meaningless to the manga.
 

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Kl keep denying mangafacts Naruto has no independent healing feats. Kakashi doesn't know about the uzumaki clan when he was the student of Minato. He obviouosy didnt know who his wife was or what she was or any abilities she had. I hate to break it to you but having powerful life force or chakra doesn't heal you, having regenerative powers given to you by 9 tails chakra does heal you as the manga shows. Or a healing jutsu/ability. If you fan show 1 uzumaki who heals because of their life force from injuriesinstead of using jutsu I'd take your fanfic seriously. Even the only legit healer among the uzumaki clan uses a jutsu to heal herself and others.
To deny mangafacts like the kyubi chakra which is evidently leaking out and filling narutos wound and healing him is not the Kyubi's chakra's doing and attributing it to naruto is fanfic 2.0

Ps. The manga facts are legit because kakashi saying those words are because kishi wants us to understand what's actually going on otherwise the purpose of the dialogue is meaningless to the manga.

You are the one who keeps denying manga facts. Life Force can and does heal. That's how the 1st hokage was able to heal himself without seals. He wasn't a medical ninja. Remember an ability is being able to do something. A jutsu is when that ability is used in a specific way. IE: manipulating chakra to wind is an ability. Manipulating chakra into wind and the shape of a sword to cut its targets is a jutsu.

When Kabuto was telling Sasuke and Itachi about his healing ability he gained from a Uzumaki he tells them the Uzumaki clan powerful life force - to Kishi is telling us in that his healing power is because of their powerful life force.

It's has been showed several times that tail beast chakra can and will enhance jin power. Naruto healing in past was because the 9 tails chakra was enhancing his power. In one of my earlier post I pointed out that the 9 tails chakra enhanced Naruto's life force -

I agree that kishi wants us to understand Kakashi's statement. Where you fail is you don't look at the entire scene or factor in all the information kishi provided. At the time Kakashi made that statement Naruto didn't have access to the 9 tails and Kakashi didn't know that, but us read did. That information has to be included as well. The 9 tails can't heal Naruto if he doesn't have access to it.

PS: Minato is not an Uzumaki.
 

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Karin also has top quality vitality and Nagoto could bear two Rinnegans when Obito could only handle one
the DB stated that Nagato's chakra reserves were why he was able to use both Rinnegan, not his heritage. If Obito had bijuu lvl chakra, he could've used both as well.
 

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You are the one who keeps denying manga facts. Life Force can and does heal. That's how the 1st hokage was able to heal himself without seals. He wasn't a medical ninja. Remember an ability is being able to do something. A jutsu is when that ability is used in a specific way. IE: manipulating chakra to wind is an ability. Manipulating chakra into wind and the shape of a sword to cut its targets is a jutsu.

When Kabuto was telling Sasuke and Itachi about his healing ability he gained from a Uzumaki he tells them the Uzumaki clan powerful life force - to Kishi is telling us in that his healing power is because of their powerful life force.

It's has been showed several times that tail beast chakra can and will enhance jin power. Naruto healing in past was because the 9 tails chakra was enhancing his power. In one of my earlier post I pointed out that the 9 tails chakra enhanced Naruto's life force

I agree that kishi wants us to understand Kakashi's statement. Where you fail is you don't look at the entire scene or factor in all the information kishi provided. At the time Kakashi made that statement Naruto didn't have access to the 9 tails and Kakashi didn't know that, but us read did. That information has to be included as well. The 9 tails can't heal Naruto if he doesn't have access to it.

PS: Minato is not an Uzumaki.

What on earth are you talking about do you even know how karin heals herself she bites herself and gives up her lifeforce to heal her injurie. Kabuto is reffering to that ability. Naruto, Nagato, kushina haven't got any such ability take as an example when Madara and Obito ripped out the 9 tails their life force didn't heal them in the slightest. Even in Naruto's case his body was done in torn to shreds. It didn't heal in the slightest. And when kakashi made that statement it was after Naruto already activated the 9 tails power (against Haku).


Here's kakashi confirming even Naruto's stamina's root is the 9 tails the word he uses is influence. If Naruto doesn't have access to its abilities naturally their wouldn't be any influence.
This is a few chapters after the healing comment by kakashi.


Here's jiraiya confirming the seal has been set so the kyubi's chakra slips out between the seal and mixes with Naruto's. Now it wasn't Naruto, or Kakashi or the 3rd who set it like that it was the 4th Hokage. So Naruto's always been healed and enhanced by the 9 tails whilst which he got solo'd by Madara.


Here's Orochimaru confirming that Naruto's and the 9 tails chakra overflows when his emotions are heightened. Nothing over flows if it's not already flowing.


Here orochimaru confirms the 2 are fusing so he halts the fusion (with his seal) so it's stuck where it is. This fusion resumes when Jiraiya removes the seal.

So like I said your ignoring Mangafacts to prove a point that doesn't exist and give a feat to a character which isn't his own. I rear when kishi makes a statement he wants to covey some thing to us. Kakashi's words are as clarify as day.

In case your wondering about the uzumaki women who heals herself and how she does it.

She's impaled


She bites herself it's the same technique she uses to heal others. It uses her lifeforce and shortens it with each use.
 
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What on earth are you talking about do you even know how karin heals herself she bites herself and gives up her lifeforce to heal her injurie. Kabuto is reffering to that ability. Naruto, Nagato, kushina haven't got any such ability take as an example when Madara and Obito ripped out the 9 tails their life force didn't heal them in the slightest. Even in Naruto's case his body was done in torn to shreds. It didn't heal in the slightest. And when kakashi made that statement it was after Naruto already activated the 9 tails power (against Haku).


Here's kakashi confirming even Naruto's stamina's root is the 9 tails the word he uses is influence. If Naruto doesn't have access to its abilities naturally their wouldn't be any influence.
This is a few chapters after the healing comment by kakashi.


Here's jiraiya confirming the seal has been set so the kyubi's chakra slips out between the seal and mixes with Naruto's. Now it wasn't Naruto, or Kakashi or the 3rd who set it like that it was the 4th Hokage. So Naruto's always been healed and enhanced by the 9 tails whilst which he got solo'd by Madara.


Here's Orochimaru confirming that Naruto's and the 9 tails chakra overflows when his emotions are heightened. Nothing over flows if it's not already flowing.


Here orochimaru confirms the 2 are fusing so he halts the fusion (with his seal) so it's stuck where it is. This fusion resumes when Jiraiya removes the seal.

So like I said your ignoring Mangafacts to prove a point that doesn't exist and give a feat to a character which isn't his own. I rear when kishi makes a statement he wants to covey some thing to us. Kakashi's words are as clarify as day.

In case your wondering about the uzumaki women who heals herself and how she does it.

She's impaled


She bites herself it's the same technique she uses to heal others. It uses her lifeforce and shortens it with each use.

Kabuto is referring to the Uzumaki clan powerful life force. Karin has to bite herself to use her powerful life force to heal. That's just how her jutsu works. People uses abilities and powers different ways. The 1st hokage could use his life force to heal himself without seals.

I know Naruto gains chakra from the 9 tail, its juts tiny amount - - the scroll toad, that's part of the seal, told us that. He knows much more about it than Kakashi who made a wrong assumption with his claim that Naruto's stamina comes from the 9 tails. Neither Jiraiya nor Oro stated Naruto stamina or healing powers comes from the 9 tails. They don't even tell us how much chakra Naruto gains. They just said Naruto gains chakra from the 9 tails. The scroll toad confirmed how much chakra Naruto gains.
 
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