[Discussion] Black people lack the empathy gene?

[3rd Raikage]

From a pure logical standpoint I guess you could argue that maybe the reason why no black civilizations have flourished in the past is because of lack of understanding and identifying with other people in your own subgroup. Because we do know, or atleast seem to understand, that empathy has been an essential part of what has made western civilization so great. Empathy is like a glue that keeps a tribe/group/clan functional. Because when you understand each other you can develop morals which everyone can abide to. Morals are essential for the survival and development of humans because without them we would end up in chaos.

It's also a studied fact that when you engage in an empathic act in a way that you feel compassion towards another human being, then it actually changes your brain. It makes you happy and increases your cognitive abilities like memory and reasoning. So with that being said I think there are clear signs that empathy correlates with the succes of a society.

And if for example you think about the fact that blacks have less depression than whites then isn't it obvious that black people don't care about what other people think as much as say white people? Because while depression is a physiological symptom in a brain a.k.a decease, in many cases the root cause of depression is that you are more socially aware than other people which means you understand what and why other people think better. In another words you overanalyze things and other people. So when you almost completely remove depression from the equation then isn't that exactly what the lack of empathy would look like?

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Out of all the traits the Alt-Right value, I wouldn't imagine they have a leg to stand on when it comes to having empathy.

Empathy gene sounds like something a kid would make up, not adult propaganda-loving idiots.

 

[Lyke]

Black ppl are homies

 

[Multiply]

From a pure logical standpoint I guess you could argue that maybe the reason why no black civilizations have flourished in the past is because of lack of understanding and identifying with other people in your own subgroup. Because we do know, or atleast seem to understand, that empathy has been an essential part of what has made western civilization so great. Empathy is like a glue that keeps a tribe/group/clan functional. Because when you understand each other you can develop morals which everyone can abide to. Morals are essential for the survival and development of humans because without them we would end up in chaos.

They have flourished. Europeans stole their inventions and culture and then murdered them. Then they pretend like they don't exist when some of us remember.

 

[Vulpini]

I'm unable to feel empathy and I'm not black.

 

[3rd Raikage]

They have flourished. Europeans stole their inventions and culture and then murdered them. Then they pretend like they don't exist when some of us remember.

Yeah it's not like we've thrown money and resources at them for the past 50 years resulting in nothing but more corruption and wars. But then again it's all our fault. Never mind the fact that over a million Europeans were enslaved during the time of Barbaric Slave Trade in the Northern Africa in between 16th and 18th centuries. I guess that's different?

Need I talk about ghettos, affirmative action and the endless amount of welfare support and countless projects that the surrounding society has implemented for the blacks in the US trying to help a community, no a culture, to stand on its own, resulting in nothing but fruitless segregation and passiveness.

No, the only reason is that whites are dicks. That's the absolute truth. And thinking about alternative explanations is just...racist you know, it's racist man. I guess equality of opportunity just doesn't work because we are too darn racist, and stupid.

 

[Amenotejikara]

makes perfect sense thou, indian and jewish genocides caused by black.....wait

 

[Multiply]

Yeah it's not like we've thrown money and resources at them for the past 50 years resulting in nothing but more corruption and wars. But then again it's all our fault. Never mind the fact that over a million Europeans were enslaved during the time of Barbaric Slave Trade in the Northern Africa in between 16th and 18th centuries. I guess that's different?

Need I talk about ghettos, affirmative action and the endless amount of welfare support and countless projects that the surrounding society has implemented for the blacks in the US trying to help a community, no a culture, to stand on its own, resulting in nothing but fruitless segregation and passiveness.

No, the only reason is that whites are dicks. That's the absolute truth. And thinking about alternative explanations is just...racist you know, it's racist man. I guess equality of opportunity just doesn't work because we are too darn racist, and stupid.

Yes because throwing money and resources at them for the past 50 years totally makes up for stealing any and all of their valuable resources. Inciting revolutions. Etc. Etc. Etc.

Places like black wall street where it was predominantly black but whites were perfectly welcome and treated as equals were burned to the ground by terrorists. Nothing was done to those terrorists and we don't even recognize it as a terrorist act in the US. It's not taught in US history classes.

We don't talk in history about how our government blatantly distributed drugs and weapons to our communities and then proceeded to start a war on drugs to lock up black men into privately owned prisons to make money off of them. I wonder if it's because it only happened to black people or... Nah that can't be it.


But sure you could talk about the ghettos that were created for the sole purpose of having black people all in one spot to make it easier to distribute weapons and drugs under the guise of 'affordable housing'. We could talk about affirmative action that was created to help us get an education during times of racism where people would not accept an application simply because of the color of someone's skin(It's not nearly as needed now as it was then). We could talk about how more whites use this so called 'endless amount of welfare created only for black people' than actual black people.

If you want to help black people in the US, stop allowing the distribution of drugs in our communities. Stop locking black people(And hispanics for that matter) up more often and for longer periods of time than white people for the exact same crimes. Crack down harder on the gangs that destroy entire communities. Don't just let them control entire towns or cities.

 

[Brady]

From a pure logical standpoint I guess you could argue that maybe the reason why no black civilizations have flourished in the past is because of lack of understanding and identifying with other people in your own subgroup. Because we do know, or atleast seem to understand, that empathy has been an essential part of what has made western civilization so great. Empathy is like a glue that keeps a tribe/group/clan functional. Because when you understand each other you can develop morals which everyone can abide to. Morals are essential for the survival and development of humans because without them we would end up in chaos.

It's also a studied fact that when you engage in an empathic act in a way that you feel compassion towards another human being, then it actually changes your brain. It makes you happy and increases your cognitive abilities like memory and reasoning. So with that being said I think there are clear signs that empathy correlates with the succes of a society.

And if for example you think about the fact that blacks have less depression than whites then isn't it obvious that black people don't care about what other people think as much as say white people? Because while depression is a physiological symptom in a brain a.k.a decease, in many cases the root cause of depression is that you are more socially aware than other people which means you understand what and why other people think better. In another words you overanalyze things and other people. So when you almost completely remove depression from the equation then isn't that exactly what the lack of empathy would look like?

So what about the different genocides and stuff that Europeans did? Is European empathy only stretched toward other Europeans?

 

[SSStylish]

Is European empathy only stretched toward other Europeans?

Obviously not with all the refugees here. In Germany (or at least the cities I've been to) people have far more empathy with outsiders than citizens. The only europeans I can think of that love their own people more than others are slavs.

 

[3rd Raikage]

Yes because throwing money and resources at them for the past 50 years totally makes up for stealing any and all of their valuable resources. Inciting revolutions. Etc. Etc. Etc.

Places like black wall street where it was predominantly black but whites were perfectly welcome and treated as equals were burned to the ground by terrorists. Nothing was done to those terrorists and we don't even recognize it as a terrorist act in the US. It's not taught in US history classes.

We don't talk in history about how our government blatantly distributed drugs and weapons to our communities and then proceeded to start a war on drugs to lock up black men into privately owned prisons to make money off of them. I wonder if it's because it only happened to black people or... Nah that can't be it.


But sure you could talk about the ghettos that were created for the sole purpose of having black people all in one spot to make it easier to distribute weapons and drugs under the guise of 'affordable housing'. We could talk about affirmative action that was created to help us get an education during times of racism where people would not accept an application simply because of the color of someone's skin(It's not nearly as needed now as it was then). We could talk about how more whites use this so called 'endless amount of welfare created only for black people' than actual black people.

If you want to help black people in the US, stop allowing the distribution of drugs in our communities. Stop locking black people(And hispanics for that matter) up more often and for longer periods of time than white people for the exact same crimes. Crack down harder on the gangs that destroy entire communities. Don't just let them control entire towns or cities.

Yes it's always other people's fault. The drugs are shoved down their throats, they are forced to sell crack with the gun on their heads and we give them guns and tell them to commit half of the homicides in the country so that our boys in blue will have more exciting jobs. I hope someday we stop standing in the way of their succes and stop forcing them to do all these things.

 

[Luminousi]

There's no way this is accurate. It's just another way for them to try and feel superior. Their tiny brains can only grasp at straws and come up with this. Seriously? Empathy?

 

[JStar King]

From a pure logical standpoint I guess you could argue that maybe the reason why no black civilizations have flourished in the past is because of lack of understanding and identifying with other people in your own subgroup. Because we do know, or atleast seem to understand, that empathy has been an essential part of what has made western civilization so great. Empathy is like a glue that keeps a tribe/group/clan functional. Because when you understand each other you can develop morals which everyone can abide to. Morals are essential for the survival and development of humans because without them we would end up in chaos.

It's also a studied fact that when you engage in an empathic act in a way that you feel compassion towards another human being, then it actually changes your brain. It makes you happy and increases your cognitive abilities like memory and reasoning. So with that being said I think there are clear signs that empathy correlates with the succes of a society.

And if for example you think about the fact that blacks have less depression than whites then isn't it obvious that black people don't care about what other people think as much as say white people? Because while depression is a physiological symptom in a brain a.k.a decease, in many cases the root cause of depression is that you are more socially aware than other people which means you understand what and why other people think better. In another words you overanalyze things and other people. So when you almost completely remove depression from the equation then isn't that exactly what the lack of empathy would look like?

Umm.......the Axum Empire?

 

[Multiply]

Yes it's always other people's fault. The drugs are shoved down their throats, they are forced to sell crack with the gun on their heads and we give them guns and tell them to commit half of the homicides in the country so that our boys in blue will have more exciting jobs. I hope someday we stop standing in the way of their succes and stop forcing them to do all these things.

You're a genius man.

Step 1 - Move them into 'affordable housing'
Step 2 - Hinder their education(Especially in the inner cities)
Step 3 -

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as a means to make money
Step 4 - Introduce weapons as a means to protect their money
Step 5 -

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These are all well documented things. Like legit there is a generation of adults now that they refer to as crack babies because of the crack epidemic in almost every inner city at the same time. But yeah you're right. They all had a choice whether they were going to watch their children and families starve because they didn't sell drugs and couldn't get a job because of their skin color and lack of education, or sell drugs and move their families out of the inner city one day in hopes to succeed in life.

[video=youtube;m5vw4ajnWGA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5vw4ajnWGA[/video]

 

[JStar King]

You're a genius man.

Step 1 - Move them into 'affordable housing'
Step 2 - Hinder their education(Especially in the inner cities)
Step 3 -

You must be registered for see links

as a means to make money
Step 4 - Introduce weapons as a means to protect their money
Step 5 -

You must be registered for see links

These are all well documented things. Like legit there is a generation of adults now that they refer to as crack babies because of the crack epidemic in almost every inner city at the same time. But yeah you're right. They all had a choice whether they were going to watch their children and families starve because they didn't sell drugs and couldn't get a job because of their skin color and lack of education, or sell drugs and move their families out of the inner city one day in hopes to succeed in life.

[video=youtube;m5vw4ajnWGA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5vw4ajnWGA[/video]

The CIA were the ones who introduced crack anyways.

And Reagan used the "War on Drugs" to target blacks while the government and greedy coporate yuppies made money off of it.

 

[3rd Raikage]

You're a genius man.

Step 1 - Move them into 'affordable housing'
Step 2 - Hinder their education(Especially in the inner cities)
Step 3 -

You must be registered for see links

as a means to make money
Step 4 - Introduce weapons as a means to protect their money
Step 5 -

You must be registered for see links

These are all well documented things. Like legit there is a generation of adults now that they refer to as crack babies because of the crack epidemic in almost every inner city at the same time. But yeah you're right. They all had a choice whether they were going to watch their children and families starve because they didn't sell drugs and couldn't get a job because of their skin color and lack of education, or sell drugs and move their families out of the inner city one day in hopes to succeed in life.

Yes like I said it's all our fault. And obviously the goverment benefits from having one tenth of its population not integrating to society. So of course we do everything we can to stop people from integrating and going to schools. Instead we want to increase the workload on police, fill up prisons and give as many welfare payments as we can so that it's more of a challenge to us. It's more interesting that way.


Thanks for that video. Gotta listen to the song. I'm sure Mos Def like most black rappers encourages young black men to stop living the gangster life style and promotes a healthy way of life with good education. I like the way they don't talk about drugs and hoes. They are great role models for our young black people.

 

[Ryu Kishi]

I guess this brings up the question of whether the soul exists or not

 

[Multiply]

Yes like I said it's all our fault. And obviously the goverment benefits from having one tenth of its population not integrating to society. So of course we do everything we can to stop people from integrating and going to schools. Instead we want to increase the workload on police, fill up prisons and give as many welfare payments as we can so that it's more of a challenge to us. It's more interesting that way.


Thanks for that video. Gotta listen to the song. I'm sure Mos Def like most black rappers encourages young black men to stop living the gangster life style and promotes a healthy way of life with good education. I like the way they don't talk about drugs and hoes. They are great role models for our young black people.

No one said it was 'your' fault. You argued that no black civilizations have thrived. The reason is because every step they take they are being oppressed. Now I absolutely hate people that play the victim. However, black people in the US are genuinely victims of some ****ed up shit. It's obvious that black people were targeted and oppressed and treated unfairly in this country after the abolition of slavery up until the last few decades. To deny that make you blind. To act as though the problems we see today in our inner cities isn't linked to that oppression and unfair treatment makes you retarded.

I also love how you judged Mos Def entirely off of the color of his skin. You didn't even know the genre of the song I linked you, but since you saw he was black you assumed it was rap and about drugs and hoes. Nice. I guess we should all assume that any white artist is a heavy metal artist talking about murdering his girlfriend/wife or committing suicide . Glad your true colors came out with that last bit.

[video=youtube;0FMfsT11pdA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FMfsT11pdA[/video]

 

[3rd Raikage]

No one said it was 'your' fault. You argued that no black civilizations have thrived. The reason is because every step they take they are being oppressed. Now I absolutely hate people that play the victim. However, black people in the US are genuinely victims of some ****ed up shit. It's obvious that black people were targeted and oppressed and treated unfairly in this country after the abolition of slavery up until the last few decades. To deny that make you blind. To act as though the problems we see today in our inner cities isn't linked to that oppression and unfair treatment makes you retarded.

What you are really saying is that while there is inequality that means there must be inequity. That's your problem. What I encourage you to do is to focus on the present and the future, not the past. We live now. So if you want to talk about oppression show me a law or an institution which is racist or oppressive by intent and we can agree that that needs fixing. You dwelling in the past and using "oppressed" as an emotional rhetorical way of arguing your case while you are not offering any proof of said oppression is actually worsening the situation for blacks. Because all you are doing is contributing to the mindset which is that whenever blacks face challenges in their life it is because of some nameless figure from the shadows who's out to get them and oppress them. Because that is the world in which blacks in the U.S are now growing in and what they are learning from people like you. Stay truthful if you don't want to divide people even more.

I also love how you judged Mos Def entirely off of the color of his skin. You didn't even know the genre of the song I linked you, but since you saw he was black you assumed it was rap and about drugs and hoes. Nice. I guess we should all assume that any white artist is a heavy metal artist talking about murdering his girlfriend/wife or committing suicide . Glad your true colors came out with that last bit.

You're right it was bad taste to say it like that. But my implication of the genre itself still stands. You and I know well that most of it is what I implied it to be. Maybe not Mos Def, but you get my point. I don't see how one Metallica song is comparable to that unless most white heavy metal artists have songs like that and consistently continue creating songs like that. Point being: what you implied about Metallica is not a stereotype.

 

[Brady]

What you are really saying is that while there is inequality that means there must be inequity. That's your problem. What I encourage you to do is to focus on the present and the future, not the past. We live now. So if you want to talk about oppression show me a law or an institution which is racist or oppressive by intent and we can agree that that needs fixing. You dwelling in the past and using "oppressed" as an emotional rhetorical way of arguing your case while you are not offering any proof of said oppression is actually worsening the situation for blacks. Because all you are doing is contributing to the mindset which is that whenever blacks face challenges in their life it is because of some nameless figure from the shadows who's out to get them and oppress them. Because that is the world in which blacks in the U.S are now growing in and what they are learning from people like you. Stay truthful if you don't want to divide people even more.



You're right it was bad taste to say it like that. But my implication of the genre itself still stands. You and I know well that most of it is what I implied it to be. Maybe not Mos Def, but you get my point. I don't see how one Metallica song is comparable to that unless most white heavy metal artists have songs like that and consistently continue creating songs like that. Point being: what you implied about Metallica is not a stereotype.

There isn't any governmental oppression, but racist whites are notorious for joining institutions like the police force and department of justice in order exercise their racism against blacks. I'm entirely against living in the past, but we still have issues, and I refuse hold all whites accountable, but not everything has dissipated.

I can live with people continuing to be racist, but I'm sick and tired of people trying to join institution's in order to exercise their racism regardless of their background.

The past cannot be changed, but the future can which is what I can agree with you on, pepe person.