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Thank God Oda is the one writing the story.. If it were for many on NB the sight of any stronger enemy means a flee on sight order
How ridiculous. You'd prefer a story where the writer will go out of his way again, and again, and again, and again, and again, to show that one group can't beat the other and then **** up his own consistency by pulling out a victory from his ass because it'd look cool and plesse your fanboyism? Get some standards.
 

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Weird how people are against the idea of Luffy fleeing from someone immensely stronger than him or having two yonko's fight against each other which we've never seen, but are so ready to get a hard on for Luffy pulling something from his ass just to best the main villain.

Yep, it's a good thing ya'll don't write this story.
 

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Weird how people are against the idea of Luffy fleeing from someone immensely stronger than him or having two yonko's fight against each other which we've never seen, but are so ready to get a hard on for Luffy pulling something from his ass just to best the main villain.

Yep, it's a good thing ya'll don't write this story.
This is one piece we could possibly see him kick her ass with a new power up which is basically facts if he is gonna fight on par with kaido!! As well as seeing big mom live after this to fight kaido but I don't think that will happen personally.

Youre so stuck on a yonko vs yonko your only looking at the bigmom and kaido but what about shankks and blackbeard??? I'd much rather see that yonko fight then this bigmom vs kaido bs. Idiots act like if bigmom doesn't fight kaido then we still won't see a yonko vs yonko smh. There could even be a shankks vs kaido in the future who knows.

Luffy will defeat bigmom this arc. There is no logical way for him to fight kaido the way we see him now & personally i dont wana see him fight and defeat kaido If he runs from bigmom like you fanboys want. He needs to at least try and see for himself the powergap personally in a fight thats the only way luffy will give up!! He could even awaken his devilfruit while fighting her.. you never know.

But Yup let's have luffy run away from one yonko to go fight another yonko who is possibly stronger, and you guys think he will win???? He has to go threw bigmom first to even stay in the new world she wont just let them roam free after this she will chase them forever!!! Idiots Lmao bigmom is done.
 
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This is one piece we could possibly see him kick her ass with a new power up which is basically facts if he is gonna fight on par with kaido!! As well as seeing big mom live after this to fight kaido but I don't think that will happen personally.
So you wanna see the main character get portrayed as weaker than someone for an entire arc, and then win by a random nonsensical power-up that ruins the power scaling and consistency of the manga? Objectively bad writing. Keep this for your fanfiction, it doesn't belong in an above average manga, much less one as good as One Piece.

Youre so stuck on a yonko vs yonko your only looking at the bigmom and kaido but what about shankks and blackbeard??? I'd much rather see that yonko fight then this bigmom vs kaido bs. Idiots act like if bigmom doesn't fight kaido then we still won't see a yonko vs yonko smh. There could even be a shankks vs kaido in the future who knows.
You can have both. Kaido vs Big Mom and Shanks vs Teach can both happen. Next.

Luffy will defeat bigmom this arc. There is no logical way for him to fight kaido the way we see him now & personally i dont wana see him fight and defeat kaido If he runs from bigmom like you fanboys want. He needs to at least try and see for himself the powergap personally in a fight thats the only way luffy will give up!! He could even awaken his devilfruit while fighting her.. you never know.
Again with the BS "Oh no I'm too wea-RANDOM POWER UP ENGAGED!" bad writing. Luffy can simply train after Big Mom and increase his power for Kaido later by seeing how unprepared he is for an Emperor.

But Yup let's have luffy run away from one yonko to go fight another yonko who is possibly stronger, and you guys think he will win????
Nope, which is why Big Mom will follow Luffy after they escape and clash with Kaido, giving Luffy time to grow stronger to defeat Kaido later on.
 

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This is one piece we could possibly see him kick her ass with a new power up which is basically facts if he is gonna fight on par with kaido!! As well as seeing big mom live after this to fight kaido but I don't think that will happen personally.

Youre so stuck on a yonko vs yonko your only looking at the bigmom and kaido but what about shankks and blackbeard??? I'd much rather see that yonko fight then this bigmom vs kaido bs. Idiots act like if bigmom doesn't fight kaido then we still won't see a yonko vs yonko smh. There could even be a shankks vs kaido in the future who knows.

Luffy will defeat bigmom this arc. There is no logical way for him to fight kaido the way we see him now & personally i dont wana see him fight and defeat kaido If he runs from bigmom like you fanboys want. He needs to at least try and see for himself the powergap personally in a fight thats the only way luffy will give up!! He could even awaken his devilfruit while fighting her.. you never know.

But Yup let's have luffy run away from one yonko to go fight another yonko who is possibly stronger, and you guys think he will win???? He has to go threw bigmom first to even stay in the new world she wont just let them roam free after this she will chase them forever!!! Idiots Lmao bigmom is done.
-You're right, this is One Piece, not Fairy Tail or Naruto, where you expect something magically to just come out and save the MC's ass because he can't handle the threat or because he is too weak to face his opponent. As far as I'm concerned, Luffy showed all he had in his fight with Doflamingo, so what exactly does he have now that is stronger than a G4 Kong Gun? If Luffy pulls out a G5 then that will just be rushed writing. If Luffy awakens his DF now then that will just be ridiculous considering he has so many other threats after BM, so I ask you again. What power does Luffy have now that can go up against BM knowing he had to use G4 against a commander, and how at all is that better than just escaping off the island so he can have time to realize that he is too weak to face a yonko so he can train and face another yonko later, like Riker said.

-The only reason why you are against BM facing Kaido is because you want to see Luffy fight BM with some asspull.

-Guess you forgot back on Sabaody when Luffy knew he was too weak to face the pacifistas and told everyone to run, which is why he wanted to train with Rayleigh for 2 years. Now that he learned the basics and acquired a new gear ya'll think he can just fight and not run away from anyone, which is dumb logic because "lets stay and fight people who are out of my league, get my ass kicked, and then realize I am not strong enough to fight them."
 

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-You're right, this is One Piece, not Fairy Tail or Naruto, where you expect something magically to just come out and save the MC's ass because he can't handle the threat or because he is too weak to face his opponent. As far as I'm concerned, Luffy showed all he had in his fight with Doflamingo, so what exactly does he have now that is stronger than a G4 Kong Gun? If Luffy pulls out a G5 then that will just be rushed writing. If Luffy awakens his DF now then that will just be ridiculous considering he has so many other threats after BM, so I ask you again. What power does Luffy have now that can go up against BM knowing he had to use G4 against a commander, and how at all is that better than just escaping off the island so he can have time to realize that he is too weak to face a yonko so he can train and face another yonko later, like Riker said.

-The only reason why you are against BM facing Kaido is because you want to see Luffy fight BM with some asspull.

-Guess you forgot back on Sabaody when Luffy knew he was too weak to face the pacifistas and told everyone to run, which is why he wanted to train with Rayleigh for 2 years. Now that he learned the basics and acquired a new gear ya'll think he can just fight and not run away from anyone, which is dumb logic because "lets stay and fight people who are out of my league, get my ass kicked, and then realize I am not strong enough to fight them."
Or that time when Luffy stopped running in Impel Down and beat Magellan with the power of friendship.
 

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Who the fuk is saying anything about BS powerups in which Luffy would defeat a Yonko bcs he is a main character?.. just stfu and stop putting words in other peoples mouths..holy mother of god annoying whiny b*****s..
Just bcs luffy can't beat someone doesn't mean he is unable to fight or scuffle with them.
He isnt at such a weak level anymore where he wil get one shotted..
What about pulling out a king kong gun, create half an Island of rubble and in the chaos escape?? Nah, just run away from top tier opponents and hope that our "weaker" friends don't get slaughtered while their backs are pointed towards the enemy. Yes sounds like a much better plan.
 
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Who the fuk is saying anything about BS powerups in which Luffy would defeat a Yonko bcs he is a main character?.. just stfu and stop putting words in other peoples mouths..holy mother of god annoying whiny b*****s..
Just bcs luffy can't beat someone doesn't mean he is unable to fight or scuffle with them.
He isnt at such a weak level anymore where he wil get one shotted..
What about pulling out a king kong gun, create half an Island of rubble and in the chaos escape?? Nah, just run away from top tier opponents and hope that our "weaker" friends don't get slaughtered while their backs are pointed towards the enemy. Yes sounds like a much better plan.
A lot of them seem to put words in people's mouths.. either that, or ignore the most valid parts of a post and spout nonsense on things they think they know more about.. I swear sometimes it feels like we're all reading a different manga that just so happens to have the same name.
 

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A lot of them seem to put words in people's mouths.. either that, or ignore the most valid parts of a post and spout nonsense on things they think they know more about.. I swear sometimes it feels like we're all reading a different manga that just so happens to have the same name.
Dude I'm sorry but some of you are really calling the kettle black. Talking about not reading or putting words in mouths ? I'm not speaking for the others but for myself. I gave a very detailed theory like 8 months ago before this whole Big Mom arc was even on the road about how ceasar would play a crucial role in the upcoming Big Mom and Kaidou fights and that they might have a clash. Now we are 8 months into the arc, and Big Mom is not the push over that many of the people here hoped to be. Remember all the shitposting on Big Mom ?

That is all fun and games, it all got mocked and laughed away. And even when Luffy is looking right into the face of defeat people are still saying, but how can this happen ? Why would it make for a better story ? But that would mean Luffy would be running away ?

On all those questions I only have 1 answer left, I'm done explaining it really. It has been discussed to the letter how at least I and I know for a fact a lot of others talked about their views and predictions for this arc. But let's drop it now and just stop asking for the obvious stuff.

Let's look at the facts:

*Luffy made a promise to make FI his turf and beat Big Mom in the NW - angered BM
*Ceasar's factory got blown up on PH - angered Doffy and agitated Kaidou
*Franky blew up the smile factory on Dressrosa - Angered Kaidou
*Big Mom kidnaps Sanji on Dressrosa and forces the Strawhat to split their attention on to 2 yonkou
*For some reason all the supernova except Bonney are been seen with or near 1 of these 2 yonkou
*Luffy vowed to wreck the wedding, and help Sanji with his 3 conditions.
*Sanji's 3 conditions are now met, but all their backup is flying away with Ceasar.
*They were facing defeat before with greater numbers, while Big Mom was insane. Now there are 6 Vinsmokes and Luffy left
*The enemy has Big Mom 2 sweet commanders and the entire enraged army left
*SOME PEOPLE might call this situation hopeless (It's your own right to believe in a miracle)

And this is where the paths split because I'm not a Big Mom fanboy as I've been called or a Luffy hater as I've been called. I see myself as a realism fanboy.

So if you right now would look at who could possibly take out a yonkou. There might be a simple conclusion, another yonkou. Coincidence has it that the other Strawhats are already laying the foundations of the follow up arc right now. All the Supernova's will be there if Bege tags along with Luffy to Wano and Bonney comes into the picture. End result could very well be a situation the marines have feared for and Luffy being in the center of it all again a clash between 2 yonkou. Which works out perfect, because they can get rid of 2 major problems at once.

Why the hell would Ceasar otherwise be relevant after 3 arcs ? When does Pedro get to fight Tamago ? Even if by a stroke of luck Luffy beats Big Mom, will Oda make him defeat 2 yonkous in 2 arcs back to back ?

Also there are 4 yonkou left. If Big Mom and Kaidou clash we can see a fight where neither has to pull punches for the sake of a power scale, If one or both goes down there will be a power vacuum that throws the world out of control, the marines will more than likely interrupt on the island they're afraid of entering. Why else keep mentioning that fact if the marines have no reason to enter Wano. Come in Green Bull. A war bigger than the Marineford arc ensues. Chaos between all different factions and alliances, minks, samurai, ninja Kidd/apoo/hawkins, Strawhats, Marines, possibly shichibukai. And in the end Luffy walks away as the new menace of the New World. Now going forward in the story only 2 yonkou remain. He doesn't need to fight Shanks so that saves Blackbeard for the end. And at the end of the story I can see Luffy going 1 to 1 with a yonkou but not right now.

See how many steps are still in between ? If Luffy right now wins against a yonkou what would the rest of the manga look like ?

And to address one more point that is mentioned a lot. If Luffy leaves or escapes now that doesn't make him a loser. He got his crew mate out and wrecked a tea party under big mom's nose while the entire world (Big News Morgan) is witness. That makes him the winner in the situation even though Big Mom is undefeated.

This has been my theory, and this still is my theory. and for every question can be answered with it. Which also makes it a good theory. But stop saying that people are ignoring valid points because these points have been covered extensively over the past months when people were busy mocking it. Now I'm done explaining. It's Oda's turn.

I hear a lot about how this prediction sucks, the only thing I haven't seen so far here is how 6 Vinsmokes and Luffy will beat an army together. Make a theory about that, where are the match-ups ? Is Luffy going to solo Big Mom ? Or will he get back-up from Sanji ? If Sanji backs up Luffy who will fight the 2 sweet commanders ? Ichiji and Reiju ? Then we still have Oven, Daifuku and Compote. Let's give them a vinsmoke each. Now we're out of allies but still have an enraged army with a lot of strong devil fruit users like Galette, mont d'or, perospero, Brulee, pudding and a lot of others. So what is your theory how would Luffy turn this into a win ? I'm not putting words into your mouth, these are the facts.
 
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So very wrong. Doflamingo's "assistance" were Bellamy and Trebol. Trebol did no damage to Luffy whatsoever, and the damage Bellamy did to Luffy is weaker than both Gamma Knife(meaning Luffy wasn't as weakened as Doflamingo) and Doflamingo's Awakening(meaning if Bellamy wasn't available, Doflamingo could have used Awakening off the bat to weaken Luffy just as much, or even more, through is own power.)

Luffy threw everything he had at Doflamingo, and the result was him fast asleep as Doflamino was marching towards him with Awakened strings primed to strike. Luffy is very much weaker than Doflamingo.


Luffy couldn't beat Cracker by overpowering him, so he made it a game of stamina. Luffy needed to eat Cracker's biscuits in order to keep his stamina up, and he was only able to eat the biscuits because Nami soaked them. She made that fight in Luffy's favor. Without her, Luffy was undoubtedly losing.


This logic is faulty. A character making an army out of DF constructs is still a 1 vs 1 because those constructs fall under his power. It's like saying Doflamingo making five strings to slash Luffy means it's now a 6 vs 1, which is stupid as shit. The biscuit soldiers all fall under Cracker, they're not an external party to Cracker. Oda made it a 2 vs 1(Luffy and Nami vs Cracker) because Luffy couldn't win on his own.



Luffy is fully willing to escape.



Too bad it's not reasonable or within his means to defeat Big Mom.


Luffy has been portrayed as weaker, having a hard time with two of her subordinates who are below her in power.
Careful that's ABC logic you're using there. BM>Cracker>Luffy isn't a guarantee BM>Luffy and it's not a guarantee that a scenario can't present an ideal chance for Luffy in this chaos.
 

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Dude I'm sorry but some of you are really calling the kettle black. Talking about not reading or putting words in mouths ? I'm not speaking for the others but for myself. I gave a very detailed theory like 8 months ago before this whole Big Mom arc was even on the road about how ceasar would play a crucial role in the upcoming Big Mom and Kaidou fights and that they might have a clash. Now we are 8 months into the arc, and Big Mom is not the push over that many of the people here hoped to be. Remember all the shitposting on Big Mom ?

That is all fun and games, it all got mocked and laughed away. And even when Luffy is looking right into the face of defeat people are still saying, but how can this happen ? Why would it make for a better story ? But that would mean Luffy would be running away ?

On all those questions I only have 1 answer left, I'm done explaining it really. It has been discussed to the letter how at least I and I know for a fact a lot of others talked about their views and predictions for this arc. But let's drop it now and just stop asking for the obvious stuff.

Let's look at the facts:

*Luffy made a promise to make FI his turf and beat Big Mom in the NW - angered BM
*Ceasar's factory got blown up on PH - angered Doffy and agitated Kaidou
*Franky blew up the smile factory on Dressrosa - Angered Kaidou
*Big Mom kidnaps Sanji on Dressrosa and forces the Strawhat to split their attention on to 2 yonkou
*For some reason all the supernova except Bonney are been seen with or near 1 of these 2 yonkou
*Luffy vowed to wreck the wedding, and help Sanji with his 3 conditions.
*Sanji's 3 conditions are now met, but all their backup is flying away with Ceasar.
*They were facing defeat before with greater numbers, while Big Mom was insane. Now there are 6 Vinsmokes and Luffy left
*The enemy has Big Mom 2 sweet commanders and the entire enraged army left
*SOME PEOPLE might call this situation hopeless (It's your own right to believe in a miracle)

And this is where the paths split because I'm not a Big Mom fanboy as I've been called or a Luffy hater as I've been called. I see myself as a realism fanboy.

So if you right now would look at who could possibly take out a yonkou. There might be a simple conclusion, another yonkou. Coincidence has it that the other Strawhats are already laying the foundations of the follow up arc right now. All the Supernova's will be there if Bege tags along with Luffy to Wano and Bonney comes into the picture. End result could very well be a situation the marines have feared for and Luffy being in the center of it all again a clash between 2 yonkou. Which works out perfect, because they can get rid of 2 major problems at once.

Why the hell would Ceasar otherwise be relevant after 3 arcs ? When does Pedro get to fight Tamago ? Even if by a stroke of luck Luffy beats Big Mom, will Oda make him defeat 2 yonkous in 2 arcs back to back ?

Also there are 4 yonkou left. If Big Mom and Kaidou clash we can see a fight where neither has to pull punches for the sake of a power scale, If one or both goes down there will be a power vacuum that throws the world out of control, the marines will more than likely interrupt on the island they're afraid of entering. Why else keep mentioning that fact if the marines have no reason to enter Wano. Come in Green Bull. A war bigger than the Marineford arc ensues. Chaos between all different factions and alliances, minks, samurai, ninja Kidd/apoo/hawkins, Strawhats, Marines, possibly shichibukai. And in the end Luffy walks away as the new menace of the New World. Now going forward in the story only 2 yonkou remain. He doesn't need to fight Shanks so that saves Blackbeard for the end. And at the end of the story I can see Luffy going 1 to 1 with a yonkou but not right now.

See how many steps are still in between ? If Luffy right now wins against a yonkou what would the rest of the manga look like ?
Okay.. first of all, who said I was talking about you?


Secondly..
Bro...

Your theory sounds epic af.


Idk why all the hostility towards me.. when you and I have already had this discussion multiple times and like I've said in the past, just because you and I want something different to happen this arc, doesn't mean that I can't appreciate your theory and ideas.

I wouldn't be mad or upset in any way if the story goes the way that you invision it to go..

I like your ideas and thoughts..


Of course I want it to go down another way, but that doesn't stop me from appreciating your theory.


I respect your opinion bro..

But sometimes I wonder if that respect is mutual....



And to address one more point that is mentioned a lot. If Luffy leaves or escapes now that doesn't make him a loser. He got his crew mate out and wrecked a tea party under big mom's nose while the entire world (Big News Morgan) is witness. That makes him the winner in the situation even though Big Mom is undefeated.
I agree.. if Oda makes the story go in this direction I will still understand his logic behind it.. and I don't blame you for wanting it to go in that direction.. even though I want it go differently..

There's no hatred or ill will on my end..

This has been my theory, and this still is my theory. and for every question can be answered with it. Which also makes it a good theory. But stop saying that people are ignoring valid points because these points have been covered extensively over the past months when people were busy mocking it. Now I'm done explaining. It's Oda's turn.
Again, who said I was referring to you?

I had a decent back and forth discussion with Dannie and I saw Howlett post something as well..

They're not necessarily as open-minded as you are sometimes..


I hear a lot about how this prediction sucks, the only thing I haven't seen so far here is how 6 Vinsmokes and Luffy will beat an army together. Make a theory about that, where are the match-ups ? Is Luffy going to solo Big Mom ? Or will he get back-up from Sanji ? If Sanji backs up Luffy who will fight the 2 sweet commanders ? Ichiji and Reiju ? Then we still have Oven, Daifuku and Compote. Let's give them a vinsmoke each. Now we're out of allies but still have an enraged army with a lot of strong devil fruit users like Galette, mont d'or, perospero, Brulee, pudding and a lot of others. So what is your theory how would Luffy turn this into a win ? I'm not putting words into your mouth, these are the facts.
You already know how I want this arc to end and how I want things to play out...

Either way, I know that Oda is going to make the ending epic af.. whether it's your way, my way, or a brand new way that we haven't even thought of..


I love One Piece.

Probably more than everybody who posts in this section.. g shit..


But that doesn't change the fact I'll still respect other people's theories and ideas.. (regardless of whether or not they match up with my ideas and theories.. because at the end of the day, all of this comes from our love for One Piece!)
 

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Okay.. first of all, who said I was talking about you?


Secondly..
Bro...

Your theory sounds epic af.


Idk why all the hostility towards me.. when you and I have already had this discussion multiple times and like I've said in the past, just because you and I want something different to happen this arc, doesn't mean that I can't appreciate your theory and ideas.

I wouldn't be mad or upset in any way if the story goes the way that you invision it to go..

I like your ideas and thoughts..


Of course I want it to go down another way, but that doesn't stop me from appreciating your theory.


I respect your opinion bro..

But sometimes I wonder if that respect is mutual....





I agree.. if Oda makes the story go in this direction I will still understand his logic behind it.. and I don't blame you for wanting it to go in that direction.. even though I want it go differently..

There's no hatred or ill will on my end..



Again, who said I was referring to you?

I had a decent back and forth discussion with Dannie and I saw Howlett post something as well..

They're not necessarily as open-minded as you are sometimes..




You already know how I want this arc to end and how I want things to play out...

Either way, I know that Oda is going to make the ending epic af.. whether it's your way, my way, or a brand new way that we haven't even thought of..


I love One Piece.

Probably more than everybody who posts in this section.. g shit..


But that doesn't change the fact I'll still respect other people's theories and ideas.. (regardless of whether or not they match up with my ideas and theories.. because at the end of the day, all of this comes from our love for One Piece!
)
No I like you, and I appreciate your theories and thoughts. There is nothing wrong with having a different opinion, because otherwise there would be no discussion here.

I replied to you but my comment was also aimed to people who voice their arguments in a less appropriate way. This section is giving a lot of people a lot of shit for thinking a bit out of the box. We experienced that both first hand, that is also why I started that bet as a fun kind of rivalry.

The one thing that just ticks me off is that after 8 months of back and forth we're still at the phase of. But how can that possibly play out and make for an interesting story when Luffy doesn't beat Big Mom here and now. So that is where I drew the line. I typed it out again once more and now I'll just wait and se where Oda takes it.

Oda hasn't disappointed me in 20 years, even if he does take Big Mom down this arc. I'm sure he will do it in a way that I can live with.

No disrespect to you whatsoever.
 

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Who the fuk is saying anything about BS powerups in which Luffy would defeat a Yonko bcs he is a main character?.. just stfu and stop putting words in other peoples mouths..holy mother of god annoying whiny b*****s..
Just bcs luffy can't beat someone doesn't mean he is unable to fight or scuffle with them.
He isnt at such a weak level anymore where he wil get one shotted..
What about pulling out a king kong gun, create half an Island of rubble and in the chaos escape?? Nah, just run away from top tier opponents and hope that our "weaker" friends don't get slaughtered while their backs are pointed towards the enemy. Yes sounds like a much better plan.
Lol pretty much everyone wants to see luffy clash with BM. Chaos, escaping lol this is pretty much what the people your arguing with think will happen. Sometimes I wonder if people even read each other's posts.
 

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Who the fuk is saying anything about BS powerups in which Luffy would defeat a Yonko bcs he is a main character?.. just stfu and stop putting words in other peoples mouths..holy mother of god annoying whiny b*****s..
Just bcs luffy can't beat someone doesn't mean he is unable to fight or scuffle with them.
He isnt at such a weak level anymore where he wil get one shotted..
What about pulling out a king kong gun, create half an Island of rubble and in the chaos escape?? Nah, just run away from top tier opponents and hope that our "weaker" friends don't get slaughtered while their backs are pointed towards the enemy. Yes sounds like a much better plan.
A lot of them seem to put words in people's mouths.. either that, or ignore the most valid parts of a post and spout nonsense on things they think they know more about.. I swear sometimes it feels like we're all reading a different manga that just so happens to have the same name.
No one is putting words in anyone's mouths. If you think Luffy is competing with Big Mom, then he MUST have a BS powerup to accomplish just that, since he's been portrayed as far weaker than her.

I'd rather keep consistency in the story than see Oda shit on it for a BS fight/clash. Luffy goes up against Big Mom, he's getting the shit rocked out of him unless Oda pulls a powerup out of his ass like that clown Mystik wants.
 

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No one is putting words in anyone's mouths. If you think Luffy is competing with Big Mom, then he MUST have a BS powerup to accomplish just that, since he's been portrayed as far weaker than her.

I'd rather keep consistency in the story than see Oda shit on it for a BS fight/clash. Luffy goes up against Big Mom, he's getting the shit rocked out of him unless Oda pulls a powerup out of his ass like that clown Mystik wants.
I want luffy to win. Power up or not.. you just want kaido to fight bigmom we will never see eye to eye. Keep fanboying for bigmom all the way until she is put to sleep. Retard. You insult me like your theory is so much better.. we've never seen luffy fight a yonko let alone come close to beating one.. Why would I want that to stop for 2 yonko to fight when it's 4 of them keep my name out your mouth gay boy howlett
 

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I want luffy to win. Power up or not..
What a child you are.

you just want kaido to fight bigmom we will never see eye to eye. Keep fanboying for bigmom all the way until she is put to sleep.
I don't fanboy Big Mom. In fact, I don't care for her at all. Has nothing to do with who she is, I'd say the same thing about anyone in her position of power and story relevancy, whether it be Shanks, Mihawk, whatever, because that's what I been arguing about all along: The gap in power between her and Luffy as portrayed, and how her relevance to the story ties into Kaido's relevance.

Retard. You insult me like your theory is so much better..
Yes it is. It's objectively better. Your "theory" calls for Oda to do something that is illogical to the story, inconsistent to the story, and a mess of the power scaling. You want Luffy to defeat Big Mom even though he's weaker than her, or to gain a random, lazy, cliche power up.

My "theory" maintains story consistency, capitalized on world building, delivers something new in the story, maintains power scaling, and breaks cliche, while yours does the opposite of all of these things. These are objectively true facts that you cannot argue with or debunk lest you be deluding yourself.


we've never seen luffy fight a yonko let alone come close to beating one.. Why would I want that to stop for 2 yonko to fight when it's 4 of them
Doesn't matter what you want, what matters is what's better for this story, and mine is objectively better.

keep my name out your mouth gay boy howlett
Like I said, what a child.
 

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we've never seen luffy fight a yonko let alone come close to beating one.. Why would I want that to stop for 2 yonko to fight when it's 4 of them keep my name out your mouth gay boy howlett
Which is why he escapes off cake island and gets stronger until he's ready to face another yonko later. You act like he will never get another chance to fight a yonko.
 

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What a child you are.


I don't fanboy Big Mom. In fact, I don't care for her at all. Has nothing to do with who she is, I'd say the same thing about anyone in her position of power and story relevancy, whether it be Shanks, Mihawk, whatever, because that's what I been arguing about all along: The gap in power between her and Luffy as portrayed, and how her relevance to the story ties into Kaido's relevance.


Yes it is. It's objectively better. Your "theory" calls for Oda to do something that is illogical to the story, inconsistent to the story, and a mess of the power scaling. You want Luffy to defeat Big Mom even though he's weaker than her, or to gain a random, lazy, cliche power up.

My "theory" maintains story consistency, capitalized on world building, delivers something new in the story, maintains power scaling, and breaks cliche, while yours does the opposite of all of these things. These are objectively true facts that you cannot argue with or debunk lest you be deluding yourself.



Doesn't matter what you want, what matters is what's better for this story, and mine is objectively better.



Like I said, what a child.
Yours is objectively better hahahahah!!!! Bro you sound like a cheap salesman what's best is what is a thinks not you moron. Your opinion holds the same weight as everyone elses.. nothing ! Hahaha
 

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Which is why he escapes off cake island and gets stronger until he's ready to face another yonko later. You act like he will never get another chance to fight a yonko.
I never said he could or wouldn't I said I'd rather he just defeat big mom now.. I'm not the one who brought up all this yonko vs yonko talk howler cook and you did..

You also act like if he defeats bigmom now it'll ruin the story or y'all won't see any yonko fight.. people keep saying he can go train but that was a 2 year timeskip.. not a couple days or weeks so what is your real point in how he will get stronger?? Saying asspulls an powerups is what I want but that's what happen to doffy and the story is just fine. Gear 4th was perfectly executed as well as tankman. If we see another form or power up now it'll b just in time before wano.

Also you guys all have the same theory and are all against me so does that mean you all think for each other? Do none of you have your own theories or do you all cheerlead for howler and lovecook.. Now that I think about it you guys don't even post your predictions anymore y'all feed off each others and try to insult others who don't agree with your group smh. Luffy haters man lol
 
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