Itachi vs Minato

[BLAZE]

Lmao what you on about? How does one have knowledge of eye and finger gen yet still get caught by itachi. He even took the appropriate steps by using clones. Are you saying naruto is so dumb he fell for the same trick twice? Why the hell should naruto and pt1 kakashi fail but minato get the benefit of a doubt.

I know blaze is right which is why i didnt respond, i dont drag on arguments. Why repeat what he literally just said.

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Kakashi only got caught since he though he could withstand tsukiyomi with sharingan

 

[Amenotejikara]

Naruto got caught because Itachi was capable of forcing eye contact. Blatantly shown in the Manga. Kakashi got caught because he didn't prevent eye contact as he had no way of knowing about Tsukuyomi. Idk why people who support Itachi in this match up feel the need to use bad logic like "A and B got caught so why not C" while ignoring the fact that Minato's moveset and fighting style are completely different.

"Benefit of the doubt" :lol Just imagine.

Im not not denying his movesets im denying his ability to comprehend what to expect from itachi of all uchihas without intel. There is no obviousness to expect one to counter sharingan, let alone the knowledge to expect one to be aware of finger gen. Where do people get the idea that minato do all these clone sensory avoid range spread kunais etc crap when he did the complete opposite in the manga against tobi. Raikage did to avoid sasuke because he already knew about MS. You cannot act upon a strategy to something you don't prepare for. Which is why imo kabuto had enough understanding of itachi's threat to prevent a possible chance to get snared by gen as he said to just close his eyes. If I'm wrong and i probably am then it should atleast confirm that nobody can avoid ocular genjutsu in battle unless they have the speed or proper resistance to do so. Period. None of that "just look at forehead BS" or that "hashi did it so why not blank" because it's mangafact that more times than not that itachi snatches someone the moment they look at his eyes from genin lvl all the way to kage lvl

 

[KidGamer65]

Im not not denying his movesets im denying his ability to comprehend what to expect from itachi of all uchihas without intel. There is no obviousness to expect one to counter sharingan, let alone the knowledge to expect one to be aware of finger gen. Where do people get the idea that minato do all these clone sensory avoid range spread kunais etc crap when he did the complete opposite in the manga against tobi. Raikage did to avoid sasuke because he already knew about MS. You cannot act upon a strategy to something you don't prepare for. Which is why imo kabuto had enough understanding of itachi's threat to prevent a possible chance to get snared by gen as he said to just close his eyes. If I'm wrong and i probably am then it should atleast confirm that nobody can avoid ocular genjutsu in battle unless they have to speed or resistance to do so. Period. None of that "just look at forehead BS" or that "hashi did it so why not blank" because it's mangafact that more times than not that itachi snatches someone the moment they look at his eyes.

Him looking into Obito's eyes is irrelevant as he knew Obito wasn't going for Genjutsu. Obito was controlling Kurama and he was going for the Kamui finish, not to mention there's nothing even implying they were making any sort of eye contact. Staring straight at him isn't eye contact. Nor is this evidence that he'll purposely make eye contact w/ Itachi in a fight with him. That's ridiculous.

The only way your argument would make sense is if Minato didn't know that he was an Uchiha, and he obviously will solely because of his appearance. That coupled with the fact that it's painfully easy for Minato to avoid Genjutsu due to his speed, sensing and clones if need be and it's never a factor in this fight. The fact he had to resort to tricking Naruto into Genjutsu after Naruto figured out how he can cast it is also evidence of everything I'm saying. That's not even taking into account how ridiculously easy it is to avoid eye contact when all he needs to focus on is the Susanoo Itachi needs to maintain if he doesn't want to die a swift death.

 

[DHOH]

What about Izanami. It does not come from the eyes or body.

 

[Mellanoma]

Him looking into Obito's eyes is irrelevant as he knew Obito wasn't going for Genjutsu. Obito was controlling Kurama and he was going for the Kamui finish, not to mention there's nothing even implying they were making any sort of eye contact. Staring straight at him isn't eye contact. Nor is this evidence that he'll purposely make eye contact w/ Itachi in a fight with him. That's ridiculous.

The only way your argument would make sense is if Minato didn't know that he was an Uchiha, and he obviously will solely because of his appearance. That coupled with the fact that it's painfully easy for Minato to avoid Genjutsu due to his speed, sensing and clones if need be and it's never a factor in this fight. The fact he had to resort to tricking Naruto into Genjutsu after Naruto figured out how he can cast it is also evidence of everything I'm saying. That's not even taking into account how ridiculously easy it is to avoid eye contact when all he needs to focus on is the Susanoo Itachi needs to maintain if he doesn't want to die a swift death.

Canonically speaking the only person who knew about watching feet was Gai. Show me otherwise in the manga.

Itachi genjutsu also doesn't equal ALL other sharingan user genjutsu.

Minato based on manga images made direct eye contact with Obito. Maybe he knew he wouldn't be affected however Genjutsu users of Itachi level were far and few so maybe he knew he didn't have to worry.

I've always said Minato vs Itachi ends at genjutsu however IF Minato is aware of Itachi genjutsu level then the fight could favor him much more (With yata/totsuka hype removed)

As for the susanoo statement. Lets face it. Minato has nothing that can get pass Ribcage Susanoo which Giant rasengan got negged by.

While yes Minato has FTG Tags etc lets be real: Shuriken deflection, suiton and exploding bunshin is more than enough to cover that. Especially shuriken deflection and suiton.

Toads will be negged by Ama or Totsuka.

 

[TheAssasin]

Both of em are so powerful and have the ability to think cool headedly in a match, i believe that if minato would win itachi it'll be by speed, and itachi will win by outwitting minato. the truth is that the battle will be a tough one ending up in both of em severly damaged

 

[KidGamer65]

Canonically speaking the only person who knew about watching feet was Gai. Show me otherwise in the manga.

Itachi genjutsu also doesn't equal ALL other sharingan user genjutsu.

Minato based on manga images made direct eye contact with Obito. Maybe he knew he wouldn't be affected however Genjutsu users of Itachi level were far and few so maybe he knew he didn't have to worry.

I've always said Minato vs Itachi ends at genjutsu however IF Minato is aware of Itachi genjutsu level then the fight could favor him much more (With yata/totsuka hype removed)

As for the susanoo statement. Lets face it. Minato has nothing that can get pass Ribcage Susanoo which Giant rasengan got negged by.

While yes Minato has FTG Tags etc lets be real: Shuriken deflection, suiton and exploding bunshin is more than enough to cover that. Especially shuriken deflection and suiton.

Toads will be negged by Ama or Totsuka.

I never mentioned anything about looking at his feet, and even if I did: [

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The method of casting is exactly the same, eye contact. That's all that matters when it comes to avoiding it.

No, all you see is Minato looking at Obito, not him making eye contact with Obito or even being able to see his Sharingan. This doesn't even address what I said on the matter so why repeat it?

The rest doesn't matter. Itachi can't hit Minato thus he cannot win. Minato doesn't need to break through Susanoo, and even if he did, Food Cart Destroyer is enough to obliterate Ribcage and pin V2. Shuriken, clones and Suiton of all things aren't stopping Hiraishin. Suiton being useful doesn't make sense, and his Shuriken jutsu won't keep Kunai away when Minato can simply teleport once they are thrown and repeat until he gets close enough to prevent Itachi from deflecting them again.

 

[BLAZE]

As for the susanoo statement. Lets face it. Minato has nothing that can get pass Ribcage Susanoo which Giant rasengan got negged by.
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lol no

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[shelke]

Itachi doesn't need any of his MS techs to beat this guy. His CQC is borderline shit. He has no feats for that. Zero. He struggled against teenagers who matched and exceeded his strike rate. He is Genjutsued in CQC range. Bunta is dealt the same way. Crows create more feints. In CQC, Itachi straight up murders this guy.

 

[Tauren Chieftain]

Itachi doesn't need any of his MS techs to beat this guy. His CQC is borderline shit. He has no feats for that. Zero. He struggled against teenagers who matched and exceeded his strike rate. He is Genjutsued in CQC range. Bunta is dealt the same way. Crows create more feints. In CQC, Itachi straight up murders this guy.

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MS or not he loses.

 

[DHOH]

Itachi wins with Izanami.. No eye contact needed

 

[BLAZE]

Itachi wins with Izanami.. No eye contact needed

Honestly do you even know purpose of izanami

 

[LightningNinja]

Minato wins.

 

[DHOH]

Honestly do you even know purpose of izanami

To stop a clown from repeating the same jutsu.

 

[BLAZE]

To stop a clown from repeating the same jutsu.

lmao what da hell,No it traps the opponent in a loop


it can easily be broken when the opponent recognises his fate/destiny.Why will even work on minato who is not brainwashed like kabuto

Izanami

Izanami a unique Kinjutsu, Genjutsu, to invoke it results in the loss of an eye

One scene of the opponents own action is stored by the users Dojutsu, than an identical scene for a moment must be recreated. The opponent is imprisoned infinitely in the time rip world (?) between the first and second scene that were stored. To escape the Genjutsu one must accept their original fate/destiny, reforming someones conduct will allow them to escape.

 

[DHOH]

lmao what da hell,No it traps the opponent in a loop


it can easily be broken when the opponent recognises his fate/destiny.Why will even work on minato who is not brainwashed like kabuto

but hoes does it put you in a loop? One your in you're dead.. no escape until long after the killing blow

 

[BLAZE]

but hoes does it put you in a loop? One your in you're dead.. no escape until long after the killing blow

no he is not like kabuto or other uchiha's trying to escape his fate.why will it even work on him
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[Tantalus Thief]

Itachi wins with Izanami.. No eye contact needed

isn't izanami only suppose to be used on corrupted people like Kabuto or izanagi addicted uchiha?

 

[shelke]

MS or not he loses.

Do tell how a dude with poorer reflexes compared to teenagers wins against Itachi who was running circles around Adult Bee; the same Bee who rescued KCM Naruto's ***** ass repeatedly. I can't wait for the laughable and stupid mental gymnastics for this one. Go on.

 

[Hakke]

Do tell how a dude with poorer reflexes compared to teenagers wins against Itachi who was running circles around Adult Bee; the same Bee who rescued KCM NAruto's ***** ass repeatedly. I can't wait for the laughable and stupid mental gymnastics for this one. Go on.

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who do you think would win?