The moment i quoted u i only asked u about the despription outlined in the DB so im not sure why u think im disputing manga facts or trying to argue anything beyond it breaching the skin when this is a simple discussion based on the wordings of the db which is the only thing im addressing and was from the start..
And that is something that the Manga has already been shown to be false. It does not bypass the skin so my question is why are you still arguing about the wording of the databook when the Manga has already answered the question?
The DB says that the compressed Vacuum shell itself , with aspects of Gentle fist , thrusts through the target's vital which is after the attack has already been launched since Kishi was clearly describing the attack itself after the palm strike had already been unleashed which is why the aspects of Gentle fist was addressed in the same sentence describing the vacuum attack actually connecting..
"With the aspects of gentle fist" describes how it's thrust. Common sentence structure. The describing sentence is in the middle. You can either believe this or you can continue arguing something that was already disproven or you can believe something else entirely.
I think it was said somewhere that Gentle fist is used to compress the Air but Im not trying to contest facts by saying its bascially a ranged jyuken as its not , just trying to make sense of the DB destrption which literally tries to address how it operates and this is my understanding of it when reading it based on the order of words that it does breach the skin..
You can't say you aren't contesting what the Manga shows and continue to bring up what you think the DB is saying as a reason why Air Palm bypasses the skin when the Manga has already shown that this is not the case. No point in trying to argue about the wording. None at all. That's just arguing to argue.
We were shown what happened. No damage whatsoever. Show me him taking damage or show me anything that hints he took damage and then we can talk about this. Been over this way too many times for a topic this non debatable.
Everytime someone took a Gentle Fist they've been shown getting injured or something was drawn so that we knew they were injured. That is not the case here and saying otherwise is just denying fact.
saying that the wasn't powerful is dumb , because it was able to blow Kisame away , and Kisame was only able stable himself with the sword
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so you are telling me that the attack was powerful enough to be able to blow him meters away but it wasn't powerful enough to cause damage on him , ??!
Lmao what's dumb logic is you assuming that since it can move him it can damage him. Weight and durability have jack to do with each other. What's worse is that it blew him a few meters away and he didn't even lose his balance from it. :lol On top of the fact that it did no damage I can safely say that yes, it's a weak offensive attack.
first of all Kisame has a great stamina , he was smiling when he tanked Bee's lariat ,
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I mean he was taking it easy
and he was able to break free right after he tanked a Hirudora and a full-forced 7th gate punch and he also bitten his tongue
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and he was also smiling when he was eaten by sharks , like WTF , does he even feel pain ? :|
and I know that the one that Neji struck was just a 30% chakra clone , but still , that doesn't change my point about Kisame's Stamina
Kisame's clone was able to tank many attacks from Gai , and he dealt with it with ease
you can't know if someone feels pain or not , because some can easily shrug the Pain off
take in example Itachi have felt unimaginable pain when he was using Susanoo , but he didn't look like he was damaged by Susanoo
1. No, it's not. I literally just told you what it was. Lmao do you think lying is going to get you anywhere?
2 and 3. No, it was blasted into space and never seen again. :lol Is lying about what occurs on screen and on panel habitual for you or something? Jesus.
4. Irrelevant. It being able to draw meteors doesn't mean it has the physical power to break free from Chibaku TEnsei.
We were shown what happened. No damage whatsoever. Show me him taking damage or show me anything that hints he took damage and then we can talk about this. Been over this way too many times for a topic this non debatable.
saying that Neji didn't strike the vital points is a complete ignorance , when Kishi said himself in the databook
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using the All seeing white Eye as a scope ,Neji detects the enemy's vital spot with precision . the enemy's is blown away before even realizing he's been struck
Everytime someone took a Gentle Fist they've been shown getting injured or something was drawn so that we knew they were injured. That is not the case here and saying otherwise is just denying fact.
Lmao what's dumb logic is you assuming that since it can move him it can damage him. Weight and durability have jack to do with each other. What's worse is that it blew him a few meters away and he didn't even lose his balance from it. :lol On top of the fact that it did no damage I can safely say that yes, it's a weak offensive attack.
1. No, it's not. I literally just told you what it was. Lmao do you think lying is going to get you anywhere?
2 and 3. No, it was blasted into space and never seen again. :lol Is lying about what occurs on screen and on panel habitual for you or something? Jesus.
4. Irrelevant. It being able to draw meteors doesn't mean it has the physical power to break free from Chibaku TEnsei.
The golem's body was originally a stone monument to Hamura Ōtsutsuki carved into a rock wall over a shrine, but was transformed into a living entity by Toneri Ōtsutsuki using his Tenseigan
another evidence , that it was deactivated right after the Tenseigan faded
2. 3. the cherry picking though :lol , it was only destroyed because the Tenseigan has already faded which means that it was deactivated ,
and about "never seen again" , well... not very sure about that
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3.that's not my point , my point is the it was capable of manipulating the gravitational force and it was able to draw meteors that is even bigger than Kurama's size ,Hamura's statue is able to stable him self since it has a gravitational force
he can even strike the sphere of CT with a greater force since the black sphere of CT acts as a center of a gravity ,
so CT's sphere gravity + Hamura's statue drawn meteors with a great gravitational force = a huge damage
now tell me can BSM Naruto seperate himself from Kuruma or fly or has any lethal attacks like adult KCM Naruto (I know that it does have lethal attacks but not as the version that faced Toneri)
-Sasuke is on par with him.
-Gai and Neji can't get past Naruto and Sasuke's Avatars.
-They can't even survive a single BDFRS from Naruto let alone Naruto and Sasuke attacking together at full force.
And your point is.Rinnegan does not lose its power after the user gets punched.Tenseigan is not like Rinnegan
Hinata's Byakugan nvr evolved.You can put your bullshit back in closet
the Shringane needs a DNA in order to evolve , but the Byakugan needs chakra to be evolved , and Toneri's Tenseigan faded because he was out of chakra ,
and I was wrong actually , I have no prove that being the original owner of the Byakugan make you stronger
but like I told you , Hinata's case was a lame plot hole ,
he defeated Hiashi by using puppets , that does not make him superior to Neji in Taijutsu or speed or stamina
right now we no nothing about base Toneri's feats ,and I have no prove that Neji's attacks with Tenseigan would be more lethal ,so lets leave it like this.
that just make her a dummy , because tell me now , if you are a God that is about to be sealed , but you managed to escape , but there was a a girl with pink hair jumping and was prepared to punch you , and you can easily finish her by protrudes a deadly bones , why the hell don't do it ?
I mean even if Sakura was not a threat ,she was jumping right at her, why would Kaguya ignore her ?
BTW , I only made this so I can argue about Neji with a Tenseigan and Lee with the 8th gate , I didn't took it seriously lol
but the Byakugan needs chakra to be evolved , and Toneri's Tenseigan faded because he was out of chakra ,
but like I told you , Hinata's case was a lame plot hole ,
It makes him stronger than neji.keyword is stronger.that is the only thing that matters
right now we no nothing about base Toneri's feats ,and I have no prove that Neji's attacks with Tenseigan would be more lethal ,so lets leave it like this.
because tell me now , if you are a God that is about to be sealed , but you managed to escape , but there was a a girl with pink hair jumping and was prepared to punch you , and you can easily finish her by protrudes a deadly bones , why the hell don't do it ?
I mean even if Sakura was not a threat
BTW , I only Made this so I can argue about Neji with a Tenseigan and Lee with the 8th gate , I didn't took it seriously lol I know that Sasuke and Naruto's are stomping here
well , it is a 700 chapters manga , so there would be a lot of plot holes in it , but the only explanation that makes sense , is that an Otsutsuki needs to implant a Hyuga Byakugan in order to get a Tenseigan ,
if that was the case , then Sasuke = Naruto < Himawari
he was using puppets , keyword puppets , so we know nothing about base Toneri's Taijutsu skills , or speed , or stamina , because he wasn't the one who is fighting
and okay , okay , I admit that post was completely retarded , but that still doesn't change my point ,
even if Sakura was not a threat she was jumping right at her neck , why Kaguya would not simply get rid of her ?
well , it is a 700 chapters manga , so there would be a lot of plot holes in it , but the only explanation that makes scenes , is that an Otsutsuki needs to implant a Hyuga Byakugan in order to get a Tenseigan ,
so Neji needs an Otsutsuki DNA I suppose
yeah , it said an Otsutsuki with Hyuga's Byakugan , but it also said a Hyuga's Byakugan with Otsutsuki chakra , like WTF , like I told you , a plot hole ,
anyway if Neji got an Otsutsuki Dna , he would be an Otsutsuki
neither Toneri fought Hiashi
he was using puppets , just as peoples sometimes hire Ninja , he wasn't controlling them with strings like Kankuro or something
he also needed dozens of them in order to defeat Hiashi
Toneri moulds his chakra into the form of a green-coloured sphere. The sphere can be used for various purposes such as controlling targets by entering their body, rendering a target unconscious, absorbing chakra from a distance, and detonating if needed
now I don't know much about this Jutsu , but it is not a KKG , and as you can see , it said "Toneri moulds his chakra" , and Toneri is an Otsutsuki , so is his chkara
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now wait a minute . I thought that they were the same thing
okay , you got me there , there was no Jutsu that base Toneri used besides puppet cursing sphere , and he haven't used this jutsu in TCM when he fought Naruto , but anyway , TCM have increased speed and strength , and
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yeah , it said an Otsutsuki with Hyuga's Byakugan , but it also said a Hyuga's Byakugan with Otsutsuki chakra , like WTF , like I told you , a plot hole ,
So madara;obito;yamato;danzo;naruto;orochimaru all are senjus now lmao
neither Toneri fought Hiashi
he was using puppets , just as peoples sometimes hire Ninja , he wasn't controlling them with strings like Kankuro or something
he also needed dozens of them in order to defeat Hiashi
Puppet-Cursing Sphere
now I don't know much about this Jutsu , but it is not a KKG , and as you can see , it said "Toneri moulds his chakra" , and Toneri is an Otsutsuki , so is his chkara
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now wait a minute . I thought that they were the same thing
no its Toneri's jutsu.he controls puppet neji does not
You do know if translaters know the technique has something to do with dojutsu they mention it as dojutsu technique on narutopedia.its not the case with puppet cursing sphere
okay , you got me there , there was no Jutsu that base Toneri used besides puppet cursing sphere , and he haven't used this jutsu in TCM when he fought Naruto , but anyway , TCM have increased speed and strength , and
My point is , he didn't face Hiashi face to face , he is a puppeteer and puppeteers usually sucks in hand to hand combat
But he have shown a great feats in Taijutsu in TCM when he faced KCM Naruto
But we still know nothing about his base feats
no its Toneri's jutsu.he controls puppet neji does not
You do know if translaters know the technique has something to do with dojutsu they mention it as dojutsu technique on narutopedia.its not the case with puppet cursing sphere
You just made this up
You still haven't provided any proof giving otsutsuki chakra to hyuga turns their byakugan to tenseigan.you made that up like you are making this up
And BTW he can still use Localised Reincarnation Explosion
According to Shino Aburame's observations during his fight against Kankurō, the Puppet Technique is a long range style, meaning that the puppeteers are weak against close range fighters. While controlling the puppet, the user is wide open if the opponent bypasses the puppet. For this reason, puppeteers avoid hand to hand battle, relying almost exclusively on their puppets instead
You just made this up
You still haven't provided any proof giving otsutsuki chakra to hyuga turns their byakugan to tenseigan.you made that up like you are making this up
no they have his cells and dna which gives them vitality thus allows them to access mokuton to an extent
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okay is there is something wrong with my post ?,
your post was
you said that if they have senju DNA that doesn't mean that they are senjus
and my reply was
they are not Senju by name , but since they have a senju DNA , that means that they have the Senju feats ,
no that does not mean they have senju feats.yamato's mokuton pales in comparison to hashirama's
MS Sasuke can easily violate yamato but base hashirama whoops EMS sasuke's ass
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Boruto is not from the Hyuga clan by name , but he can still use gentle fist
No not the same case.Boruto has both hyuga and uzumaki lineage just as naruto has uzumaki lineage despite not having red hair or red eyes
he may not have the but he is still from the lineage
another example is nagato and tsunade both of who have both uzumaki and senju lineage
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it just a theory , and he is a puppeteer and puppeteers usually are weak in close range fights
According to Shino Aburame's observations during his fight against Kankurō, the Puppet Technique is a long range style, meaning that the puppeteers are weak against close range fighters. While controlling the puppet, the user is wide open if the opponent bypasses the puppet. For this reason, puppeteers avoid hand to hand battle, relying almost exclusively on their puppets instead. Since most puppeteers use their hands to manipulate the puppets, if their hands are disabled, then the technique can be neutralised.
this is not the case for toneri.also for kankuro and sasori
Kankurō has managed to work around close-range combat by switching places with his puppets, preventing his enemies from closing in and also allowing him to potentially set a trap for them, as shown when he fought against Sakon and Ukon.
Sasori has managed to create innovative methods that can bypass such weaknesses, such as Hiruko, which is worn like a disguise, serving as armour and defending himself from attacks, and converting himself into a puppet, he can fight at close range without worrying about leaving himself wide open for a counter-attack. Being connected directly to his core, his puppets have no lag in time between command and movement.
that Jutsu do more than controlling puppets ya' know , and it needs Otsutsuki chakra
not just a puppeteer can use it , Kankuro is a puppeteer , does that mean that he can use this jutsu ?, lmao hell no
Was. He. Injured. Yes or no? No. Meaning your argument is invalid. If you say yes, can you show that he was injured? No, you can't. Meaning your argument is invalid. If it struck the internals like Gentle Fist he'd be damaged. What is so hard for you to understand about this simple concept? :lol You keep saying there was damage but you can't show it, meanwhile I have pages of Kisame taking that attack and receiving zero damage, meanwhile Gentle Fist will do damage to him just like it has done to every other person. You Hyuuga fans really need to cut the BS. I shouldn't have to argue facts over and over and over again.
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another evidence , that it was deactivated right after the Tenseigan faded
2. 3. the cherry picking though :lol , it was only destroyed because the Tenseigan has already faded which means that it was deactivated ,
and about "never seen again" , well... not very sure about that
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3.that's not my point , my point is the it was capable of manipulating the gravitational force and it was able to draw meteors that is even bigger than Kurama's size ,Hamura's statue is able to stable him self since it has a gravitational force
he can even strike the sphere of CT with a greater force since the black sphere of CT acts as a center of a gravity ,
so CT's sphere gravity + Hamura's statue drawn meteors with a great gravitational force = a huge damage
1. It's amazing how you lie right to my face as if I won't call it out.
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Please tell me where the hell the word "summon" or anything hinting that it's a summon come from? Lmao. Meanwhile I can clearly see exactly what I stated. It's a statue dedicated to Hamura that was ANIMATED BY THE TENSEIGAN, which explains why Toneri losing the Tenseigan deactivated it.
2. Video doesn't work. Blocked in my country (US)
3. He'd do nothing but add more rocks to it. Terrible idea. Not to mention Sasuke can make it the core. TSB moon cutter is irrelevant because Neji gets fodderized in the first 30 seconds by either Naruto or Sasuke. Also not discussing how they defeat this statue anymore because Neji can't even use it. :lol
Lee needs to be as strong as Gai to open 8th gates in the first place :lol
Then stop talking about how Neji w/ Tenseigan is on par with Toneri because Base Neji is superior to Base Toneri when in reality you're just talking out of your ass with BS like "Toneri is weak in close range because he uses puppets" lmao.
now tell me can BSM Naruto seperate himself from Kuruma or fly or has any lethal attacks like adult KCM Naruto (I know that it does have lethal attacks but not as the version that faced Toneri)
no that does not mean they have senju feats.yamato's mokuton pales in comparison to hashirama's
MS Sasuke can easily violate yamato but base hashirama whoops EMS sasuke's ass
No not the same case.Boruto has both hyuga and uzumaki lineage just as naruto has uzumaki lineage despite not having red hair or red eyes
he may not have the but he is still from the lineage
another example is nagato and tsunade both of who have both uzumaki and senju lineage
it is a unique jutsu that requires Otsutsuki chakra ,
but I agree the Jutsu will not be granted to Neji just by having the Otsutsuki Chakra
because saying that it would be granted to Neji , is just like saying that Neji can use every jutsu with normal chakra just because he can use normal chakra .
but he can still learn the Jutsu , because the Jutsu is not a KKG , Toneri can only use it because he was an Otsutsuki , which means that any one from Hamura's descent can use it if he learned it
Was. He. Injured. Yes or no? No. Meaning your argument is invalid. If you say yes, can you show that he was injured? No, you can't. Meaning your argument is invalid. If it struck the internals like Gentle Fist he'd be damaged. What is so hard for you to understand about this simple concept? :lol You keep saying there was damage but you can't show it, meanwhile I have pages of Kisame taking that attack and receiving zero damage, meanwhile Gentle Fist will do damage to him just like it has done to every other person. You Hyuuga fans really need to cut the BS. I shouldn't have to argue facts over and over and over again.
how you can be sure that he wasn't damaged ? , I mean the dude has a great Stamina , he shrugged off a Hirudora and a whole punch from 7th gates Gai in the guts , he can easily shrug off a pain in the gut
also , air fist palm =/= gentle fist ,
air fist palm strikes vital spots , while gentle fist strikes the chakra network
and saying that Neji's strike didn't make it to the Vital spots is a complete ignorance when Kishi said himself in the databook
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using the All seeing white Eye as a scope ,Neji detects the enemy's vital spot with precision . the enemy's is blown away before even realizing he's been struck
1. It's amazing how you lie right to my face as if I won't call it out.
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Please tell me where the hell the word "summon" or anything hinting that it's a summon come from? Lmao. Meanwhile I can clearly see exactly what I stated. It's a statue dedicated to Hamura that was ANIMATED BY THE TENSEIGAN, which explains why Toneri losing the Tenseigan deactivated it.
2. Video doesn't work. Blocked in my country (US)
3. He'd do nothing but add more rocks to it. Terrible idea. Not to mention Sasuke can make it the core. TSB moon cutter is irrelevant because Neji gets fodderized in the first 30 seconds by either Naruto or Sasuke. Also not discussing how they defeat this statue anymore because Neji can't even use it. :lol
1. That is TONERI's summon. Not Neji. Neji is not Toneri. That is the Ootsutsuki Statue. Not the Hyuuga Statue. That summon has literally nothing to do with Tenseigan Chakra Mode besides the fact it's power was used to animate it.
Lmao , also read the thread , the location is moon , which means that Neji can animate it by using the Tenseigan
2. watch the movie online from 1:38:40 or from the moment that Toneri's absorbs KCM Naruto's chakra
3.not very sure if a high speed meteors would damage the core or not , but it can still stable itself by manipulating the gravitational force , also why do you think that Neji would not be able to use it ? , more like why you don't want him to use it ? :lol
and I agree that Sasuke and Naruto would take care of Neji fast and easily
Then stop talking about how Neji w/ Tenseigan is on par with Toneri because Base Neji is superior to Base Toneri when in reality you're just talking out of your ass with BS like "Toneri is weak in close range because he uses puppets" lmao.
I have already posted an evidence to why being a puppeteer makes you weak in close range , but Snow Flakez (BLAZE) proved to me that Toneri's case was different by using an evidence , unlike you ignorant
also now I have no prove that Neji w/ Tensiegan is superior to Toneri , because we haven't seen base Toneri in a fight , there is no prove that he is inferior either , so lets leave it like this
how you can be sure that he wasn't damaged ? , I mean the dude has a great Stamina , he shrugged off a Hirudora and a whole punch from 7th gates Gai in the guts , he can easily shrug off a pain in the gut
also , air fist palm =/= gentle fist ,
air fist palm strikes vital spots , while gentle fist strikes the chakra network
and saying that Neji's strike didn't make it to the Vital spots is a complete ignorance when Kishi said himself in the databook
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Kishimoto said that Neji himself hit Kisame's vital point , and based on logic yes he was damaged but the damage was internal
Striking someone's vital points doesn't automatically mean that you can damage them. Stop acting like Air Palm is some special attack when it's just a force directed specifically toward vital areas on the body, meaning it does NOT do damage like Gentle Fist does.
Stop arguing that it did hit his vitals when no one said it didn't. :lol Jesus you should really read before you post before you end up confusing us both.
Facts:
-Air Palm does not do internal damage like Gentle Fist.
-Air Palm is nothing but a ranged pinpoint attack.
Nonsense:
-Kisame took damage.
-Air Palm bypasses the skin.
Stop arguing that Kisame took damage. How many times do I have to tell you that your words don't matter? Show me the damage or stop arguing this point. Him having pain tolerance is irrelevant. Pain is not damage. Damage is not pain. Someone who feels no pain will still take damage.
and Kisame can easily shrug off a pain in the Guts
1. your post :lol
now tell me , the Bold is based on what exactly ? , yes nothing :lol
the Statue can only be used by having the Tenseigan lol , not every Otsutsuki can use it
and you know how stupid this part sounds
Lmao , also read the thread , the location is moon , which means that Neji can animate it by using the Tenseigan
Lmao. It's clear what exactly I was arguing in that sentence. Lmao if my words were your evidence then it's pretty clear you've been talking out of your ass this whole time, because you've yet to actually support your stupidity with real facts.
And no, the bold sounds perfect. You think that having TCM means you can summon the statue, but in reality the only thing they have in common is that it was animated by the statue? Can you not read? :lol. Now tell me where it says the wielder of the Tenseigan can animate the statue or stfu already.
The location being the Moon is irrelevant because it was only on the Moon because of Toneri, who is dead along with his statue. :lol Either you edit your OP saying Neji gets the statue or you just stop. :lol
2. watch the movie online from 1:38:40 or from the moment that Toneri's absorbs KCM Naruto's chakra
3.not very sure if a high speed meteors would damage the core or not , but it can still stable itself by manipulating the gravitational force , also why do you think that Neji would not be able to use it ? , more like why you don't want him to use it ? :lol
and I agree that Sasuke and Naruto would take care of Neji fast and easily
Neji can't use it because he can't summon it. What is so hard for you to understand about that? Why do you ignore these facts? Is it because your bias for a fictional character is too strong for you to discuss this with a rational mind?
Anyway no, there is nothing the statue can do once it becomes the core itself so don't try to argue against it. What gravitational force is it going to manipulate? It's ability is to attract things, and that doesn't help when rocks are being pulled towards you to form a giant sphere in the sky.
face-palm , so you are telling that opening any of the gates is the same as opening the 8th gate ? lol
he needs to be strong to open any of the Gates , and he needs to be as strong as Guy to open the 8th gate
When it comes to the opening requirements you only need to be strong enough. Where are you getting this nonsense from? Where does the Manga say "You have to be as strong as Might Guy in order to open the Eighth Gate" from? Hmm? I'll wait.
I have already posted an evidence to why being a puppeteer makes you weak in close range , but Snow Flakez (BLAZE) proved to me that Toneri's case was different by using an evidence , unlike you ignorant
also now I have no prove that Neji w/ Tensiegan is superior to Toneri , because we haven't seen base Toneri in a fight , there is no prove that he is inferior either , so lets leave it like this
You didn't post evidence. You said since people who use puppets in the Manga were weak close range, that Toneri would be too. I nor Snow Flakez or anyone else should have to go out of their way to disprove something you can't even support with real evidence.
And I posted RSM>>BSM>>KCSM, not KSM>>BSM>>Toneri you clown. :lol
ahh okay ,but doesn't having the DNA means that you will have the Chakra ?, I mean Madara have got a Senju chakra by getting Hashirama DNA
true , but Mokuten is a feat , and Yamato did get this feat , it is not as strong , because either :
1 . getting a DNA does not not make you as strong as the original user with the original lineage
2 . Yamato wasn't strong enough himself
I don't think number 1 was the case , because Madara's Mokuton was strong , and he wasn't the original owner of the ability
BTW that proves my point
Madara didn't have the original lineage of the Senju , yet his use with Mokuton was incredible
I think he needed a DNA not a chakra , I mean Madara was able to use Mokuton
but didn't Madara was the same level with Mokuton as Hashirama ? :hmm:
but he can still learn the Jutsu , because the Jutsu is not a KKG , Toneri can only use it because he was an Otsutsuki , which means that any one from Hamura's descent can use it if he learned it
Striking someone's vital points doesn't automatically mean that you can damage them. Stop acting like Air Palm is some special attack when it's just a force directed specifically toward vital areas on the body, meaning it does NOT do damage like Gentle Fist does.
striking the vital points means damaging the nervous system not the internal organs , so you have a point , it does not attack the internal organs directly like the gentle fist , but it strikes the nervous system which means it can cause pain, serious damage, unconsciousness or even instant death.
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A vital point is a pressure sensitive point on or near the surface of the human body. Vital points function like gateways to the nervous system, the main controller of the body, allowing you to use pain to influence the actions and reactions of an opponent. Even a single strike can cause serious damage, unconsciousness or, in rare cases, death.
true , but it does do internal damage , but not like the Gentle Fist . because one strikes the chakra pathway system while the other strikes the nerveous system
based on the DataBook , it does , and yeah you haven't answered my question yet , what do you think they meant by "with the aspects of the Gentle Fist thrusts through the enemy's vital points with a tremendous force" ?
Stop arguing that Kisame took damage. How many times do I have to tell you that your words don't matter? Show me the damage or stop arguing this point.
the attack is forceful to the point that it blown him of his feet , and the impact was drawn in the manga , just what do you mean that he wasn't damaged exactly ?
when Naruto and Sasuke punched Momo here
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the punches were strong enough to blow him meters away , and Momo didn't show any sign of pain afterwards [
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], does that mean that he wasn't damaged ? and if he was damaged, then why Kisame's case is different from his case ? :hmm:
just because someone does not show any sign of pain that doesn't necessarily mean that he wasn't damaged , a punch or a strong plow causes damage , that is a fact
attacking the vital points does not only cause pain ya' know .
here , learn some of the uses of vital points in martial arts
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Vital Points Can Shut Down the System
Because the human body is a highly complicated interconnected system, it is vulnerable to attacks that disable key points of the system, thereby causing systemwide failure. By attacking one of the vital regions of the body, you can paralyze the entire system.
Particularly damaging are attacks on the nervous system. When the nervous system becomes disabled, so does the rest of the body. Injuries to the brain and spinal cord are among the most lethal. A relatively minor injury, like a concussion causes a temporary loss of mental faculties while a serious injury, like a severance of the spinal cord can cause permanent paralysis or death. Because it attacks a key area of the human system with a specific objective, a vital point strike can turn a physical brawl into a tactical fight and render an opponent powerless
and remember that not every vital point is fatal , some of them can cause serious damage and some of them can cause unconsciousness , and some of them can even cause an instant death ,
For example, a forceful strike into the Wind Mansion (GV16) at the base of the brain can result in instant death. The gallbladder (on the right side of the trunk, below the liver) and the Sauce Receptacle (CV24) on the tip of the chin are targets for potential knockout blows in boxing. The carotid artery, temple and Philtrum are common targets for striking in a selfdefense situation. - See more at:
but some of them can only cause pain , which means they are "..meh" for someone like Kisame, and it seems that the vital point that Neji struck only causes pain
Lmao. It's clear what exactly I was arguing in that sentence. Lmao if my words were your evidence then it's pretty clear you've been talking out of your ass this whole time, because you've yet to actually support your stupidity with real facts.
And no, the bold sounds perfect. You think that having TCM means you can summon the statue, but in reality the only thing they have in common is that it was animated by the statue? Can you not read? :lol. Now tell me where it says the wielder of the Tenseigan can animate the statue or stfu already.
The golem's body was originally a stone monument to Hamura Ōtsutsuki carved into a rock wall over a shrine, but was transformed into a living entity by Toneri Ōtsutsuki using his Tenseigan
well he can animate it with the Tenseigan because the Tenseigan is the thing that's animates it , it is as simple as this
and if he learned summoning technieqe , he would be able to summon it , I mean anything can be summoned with the summoning technieqe (weapons , tools ,Gaint animals)
but that's IF he leanrned the summoning technieqe
he is dead ya' know T^T ,
and no I am not a fanboy , I am not worshiping or something , God , don't mistake me with some faps ,
he died by a simple attack(that he could've easily counter) for a ****ing pairing like a fodder , and I dealt with this fact
Anyway no, there is nothing the statue can do once it becomes the core itself so don't try to argue against it. What gravitational force is it going to manipulate? It's ability is to attract things, and that doesn't help when rocks are being pulled towards you to form a giant sphere in the sky.
I guess him having the Tensiegan and the location being the Moon isn't enough evidence and hint then ?
okay , I will edit it, but not as if that going to change anything . I mean Naruto and Sasuke are going to solo Neji , which means that the Statue would be deactivated , which mean that Neji would be defeated here with or without the statue
When it comes to the opening requirements you only need to be strong enough. Where are you getting this nonsense from? Where does the Manga say "You have to be as strong as Might Guy in order to open the Eighth Gate" from? Hmm? I'll wait.
You didn't post evidence. You said since people who use puppets in the Manga were weak close range, that Toneri would be too. I nor Snow Flakez or anyone else should have to go out of their way to disprove something you can't even support with real evidence.
