How well do you know your political partys history

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This is aimed at people from the usa but others may join in the conversation

Please be respectful to each other even if you do not agree with said persons party is in opposition of yours

Its just a curiosity and im bored
 
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Eh, I never taken American history before.
 

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Not one bit, I don't pay attention to it.
 

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Problems arise when you pledge yourselves to one party
 

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I know bits and pieces of both parties. But they are both shit.
 

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Not American but I turned away from the party I voted for back then, as they are taking a far right turn, and now I consider myself non-partisan, having my last hope in the civil sphere which the gvmnt is trying to demolish, deconstructing the last bits of the rule of law and the checks and balances :pick:
 

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Hmmm -_- that is quite problematic if you support said party but not know their history im not a strong supporter of ether side but i do know a lot of each part and their respective history

The Democratic Party has been around for a long time they have had great achievements and awful attracitys
Achievements
Winning 2 world wars
Bringing the nation out of the Great Depression
Signing the civil rights bill

Attracitys
Slavery
The trail of tears
Kkk

The Republican Party and its former name the whig party is slightly younger they have their own achievements and attracitys but in lesser numbers

Achievements
Abolished slavery
Won the civil war
Made the unions
dissolving massive monopolies
Making the first national parks

Attracitys
Well the depression started under hoovers time running but its negligible since there was a global depression caused by world war 1
The iraq war
The recession

Please note my list isnt complete so before you hound me on this i am doing this by memory and have to read up on it again
 

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Here is an interesting video about the major two party system that exists now. Of course in American government there have been many parties; more than I bothered memorizing. Major historical parties included Federalists, Whigs, American Party, Progressive Party, Labor Party, Socialist Party, and the Libertarian Party.

 

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Here is an interesting video about the major two party system that exists now. Of course in American government there have been many parties; more than I bothered memorizing. Major historical parties included Federalists, Whigs, American Party, Progressive Party, Labor Party, Socialist Party, and the Libertarian Party.

If the parties didn't truly switch ideologies why are southeners mainly republican now as opposed to before when they were all democrats. I don't suppose their racism ended and they decided to all be progressive Republicans.
 

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If the parties didn't truly switch ideologies why are southeners mainly republican now as opposed to before when they were all democrats. I don't suppose their racism ended and they decided to all be progressive Republicans.

Not all republicans are racist the Democratic Party can be just as if not more racist not all racists will show they are racist they only show it behind closed doors just because a party claims it is for the people dont mean so look at the nazi party and the communist party they said they were for the people but only led them by the nose not toward prosperity but servitude
 

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If the parties didn't truly switch ideologies why are southeners mainly republican now as opposed to before when they were all democrats. I don't suppose their racism ended and they decided to all be progressive Republicans.

The myth is that Southerners are more racist, and that is because of historic institutionalized programs such as slavery, Jim Crow, and segregation laws. These laws were put in place in by Democrats. In the south there was a term for these people: Dixicrats. Though the specific Dixicrat party has been defunct since 1948, there are still many around (until perhaps Barrack Obama). The fact is, the North was every bit as racist, though it was on more of a social level and not governmental. The second iteration (around 1920 - 1935) of the KKK took place primarily in the North, particularly New York, Pennsylvannia, and Ohio. A lot of this was rooted in depression era unemployment fears ("they terk r gerbs").

To answer your question, the base ideologies really haven't changed. I wouldn't say that "they ended racism and decided to be progressive Republicans," but I would say that their ideology has always been that all people have the potential to better themselves (whether someone believes that to be naïve or not - it is what it is). They don't believe in heavy socialized programs because it takes a way from autonomy (similar to Libertarians and a free market). I can explain that further from a social psychology perspective if you need. Republicans have always believed in regulating morality though. Whether it be ending slavery, fighting abortion, prayer in schools, or arguing against gay marriage. Of course societal norms of morality change.

In terms of modern racial issues it gets very complicated between parties. It seems like the Democratic party changed their ideologies in the late 1950s and early 1960s, but that can be argued (There's a good video I'd like to post for you, but I don't have access to youtube at work). A lot of these social programs aren't just adjuncts to help people get back on their feet, but a form of long-term assistance for people. I believe the intention is good, but when you really question a lot of Democrats they seem to have some underpinning belief that minorities can't fend for themselves without assistance (like unintentionally racist with a good heart). Before the 1960s this was definitely a legitimate concern. Game changers in the Democratic party like John F. Kennedy took a strong invested interest in civil rights. Even some forerunners like Harry Truman had desegregated the military in the late 1940s. This is around the time that African Americans began joining the party (of course). In this day in age it's easy to argue that their programs hurt more than they help, and I mean on a learned helplessness model independent of race.

To sum up, Republicans are always consistent - Everyone has the potential to make their own way economically, but not morally. Democrats ideology maybe has changed more over time, or maybe it hasn't. I've read some interesting articles that say they've become sneakier in their racism. They tend to believe people can make their own way morally, but not economically. Libertarians just believe people can make their own way. Period. In every facet of their life. Of course these three major parties all fall under a continuum of extremism and centralism.
 

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They exist to give you a false sense of choice when in reality Rothschilds and other rich families rule over the world because money makes right. Take the federal reserve for example and the amount of power it has over the USA.

People will never understand each other and will proceed antagonizing each other instead of finding a way to work together and abolish the above mentioned powers. No, they rather don't believe such "conspiracy theories", or actual freaking leaks from the CIA, FBI etc. that expose the elite. That's all a lie, of course. But the media, yeah, the media tells us the absolute truth, no need to think for yourself.

Just keep whining about le ebil Trump and Putin like a bunch of useful idiots.
 
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Not much, although I know roles have flipped between Republican and Democratic party and how they act from how they were ages ago. Not too interested in politics to be honest, at least American politics where everything seems so much a team sport of right and wrong.
 
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