Why Can't Naruto Uzumaki Fans Admit it?

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Naruto believe it or not was and is pretty dull in the head, he's just not that intellectual or intelligent. Even the dunce and idiot Obito, got smarter as time went on. Everyone bashes the Uchiha but to be honest, they are the only ones that caught onto the real sh*t that was popping off.

The shinobi world was and is garbage, and people were dying. Obito and Madara realized that true peace could never be achieved, and really weren't entirely evil. Even Madara recoiled from the idea of the Infinite Tsukuyomi after realizing the true result of the technique, the transformation of everyone into white-zetsu's.

Naruto and his buddies literally fight for and defend the very system that gave birth to people like Obito, Madara, Sasuke, and Itachi. A cruel and corrupt system of shinobi that are brainwashed from childhood into loyalty to villages of people full of strangers that don't give two craps about them. Sasuke was going about it the right way when he decided to destroy Konoha, one of the most corrupt and cruel villages of them all. I can't believe Hiruzen allowed Danzo to live after he plotted a coup and tried to assassinate him, but also allowed Danzo to go off scot-free after forcing a thirteen year old boy into committing a genocide of an entire clan that was loyal to the village from the start. And by the way, Danzo stole the eye of a shinobi of Konoha while said shinobi was on a mission from the HOKAGE HIMSELF, talk about justice for the Uchiha.

The Uchiha even denied Madara's claims of the Senju's eventual plan to use and dispose of the Uchiha, and sided with the Senju and other clans. And they got what was coming to them for not listening. The fact is, the Uchiha were quick to catch on to how messed up things were and tried to make a change, while Naruto had literally NO solutions to the problem which Obito called him out for plenty of times before the inevitable TNJ.
 

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Yeah but naruto changed the system, he fought so he could change the shinobi world later on, which he did.
 

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Naruto isn't book smart but he is a clever character that's achieved feats prodigies couldn't do since he thought outside the box
 

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Who was the one that came up with a strategy to save the shinobi alliance rom a bijudama?

Naruto's plan in bringing peace to the shinobi alliance isn't pefect but it brought peace to the shinobi world for decades entire decades something this uchihas would have never be able to accomplish.
 

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And what are those feats again?

Most prodigies throughout the show usually do great feats with their own abilities or genetic abilities, Naruto's only feats were achieved with the help of a Tailed Beast and multiple Tailed Beasts.

Yeah but naruto changed the system, he fought so he could change the shinobi world later on, which he did.

Naruto didn't change the system, given what we know about Kawaki's ambitions, the shinobi world can't be all that great if he wants to destroy it. Remember, these people are killers for hire, that's what shinobi are.
 

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Yeah but naruto changed the system, he fought so he could change the shinobi world later on, which he did.

Naruto didn't change anything. Everything is the same, but the villages are united under a new alliance. And it's not because of him that the villages are united, it was Obito and Madara that united it. That is why Sasuke was right:

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Well there isn't any wars or tensions between villages now.
 

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Uchiha fans should admit that their fav plans were crazy bullshit and nothing more.
 

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And what are those feats again?

Most prodigies throughout the show usually do great feats with their own abilities or genetic abilities, Naruto's only feats were achieved with the help of a Tailed Beast and multiple Tailed Beasts.



Naruto didn't change the system, given what we know about Kawaki's ambitions, the shinobi world can't be all that great if he wants to destroy it. Remember, these people are killers for hire, that's what shinobi are.

And what exatcly do you know about kawaki?Nothing besides the fact that he isn't part of the shinobi world witch makes your point moot.
 

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And what exatcly do you know about kawaki?Nothing besides the fact that he isn't part of the shinobi world witch makes your point moot.

Kawaki wants to end the shinobi world, which would be a necessary step toward peace. I wonder why he'd want an end to it though, could it possibly be that he's seen how hectic and evil it is?

Well there isn't any wars or tensions between villages now.

Obito, Madara, and Sasuke weren't just concerned about the shinobi world. They cared about the world itself, beyond shinobi. The truth is the world would still be hectic without shinobi, but the shinobi world itself had a bad enough impact in and of itself. Madara himself said that man hungers for peace but also craves war, the peace between the shinobi villages won't last forever, even Sasuke said it himself. The whole point of the Infinite Tsukyomi was permanent peace, not just a decade or two long era of peace between villages.
 

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You're in denial uchihas failed even the so called geniuses. Got one upped by the dead last of the academy, and now there's is peace. Uchiha plan was always going to fail. Madara and Obito's plan was stupid cause Kaguya was always going to come out with black Zetsu there. Sasuke's was stupid as well everyone would have banded together even though he was stronger then them they still would have tried to kill him and so on and so. Plus peace by killing people who disagree with you is never peace it's called dictatorship my friend. The uchiha were all batshit crazy it's in their DNA. Itachi was the only different one maybe mikoto cheated on Fugako and itachi isn't his son,it would explain him being different and not getting the crazy gene they all have :lmao:
 

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You're in denial uchihas failed even the so called geniuses. Got one upped by the dead last of the academy, and now there's is peace. Uchiha plan was always going to fail. Madara and Obito's plan was stupid cause Kaguya was always going to come out with black Zetsu there. Sasuke's was stupid as well everyone would have banded together even though he was stronger then them they still would have tried to kill him and so on and so. Plus peace by killing people who disagree with you is never peace it's called dictatorship my friend. The uchiha were all batshit crazy it's in their DNA. Itachi was the only different one maybe mikoto cheated on Fugako and itachi isn't his son,it would explain him being different

Most Uchiha's didn't fail in their plans, Obito and Madara achieved their dream but Sasuke and Naruto deconstructed it. You're saying that killing people who disagree is a dictatorship, but if anything all I've noticed is that all of these villages are dictatorships. Konoha was evil and corrupt, the very system that caused everything is still being protected and preserved by Naruto and his friends.

The Uchiha only got "one-upped" because Naruto had a tailed-beast sealed inside of him. They actually put the effort in to achieve their dreams by using their own power granted to them by birth and training.

Even when the truth about the massacre was revealed to Naruto, and he realized the world for what it truly was. He never acknowledged it, he simply hyperventilated and passed out. Every other character developed and formed a seasoned and understandable view of the world given the circumstances, except Naruto.
 

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Most Uchiha's didn't fail in their plans, Obito and Madara achieved their dream but Sasuke and Naruto deconstructed it. You're saying that killing people who disagree is a dictatorship, but if anything all I've noticed is that all of these villages are dictatorships. Konoha was evil and corrupt, the very system that caused everything is still being protected and preserved by Naruto and his friends.

The Uchiha only got "one-upped" because Naruto had a tailed-beast sealed inside of him. They actually put the effort in to achieve their dreams by using their own power granted to them by birth and training.

Even when the truth about the massacre was revealed to Naruto, and he realized the world for what it truly was. He never acknowledged it, he simply hyperventilated and passed out. Every other character developed and formed a seasoned and understandable view of the world given the circumstances, except Naruto.

Everyone single one of them failed. Itachi failed, Shisui failed, Fugaku failed, Obito failed, madara failed and Sasuke also failed in the end. Don't know what manga you read but none of then actually achieved what they set out to do, that shows that they failed.
 
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Naruto didn't change anything. Everything is the same, but the villages are united under a new alliance. And it's not because of him that the villages are united, it was Obito and Madara that united it. That is why Sasuke was right:

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in a way i guess, if sasuke was right wouldnt the alliance have ended as soon as all common enemies were defeated?
 

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Yep real genius and prodigies come with plans of world domination by enslaving its people or rule with fear and their dumb fanboys do not see anything wrong with that...:rolleyes:
 

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Yep real genius and prodigies come with plans of world domination by enslaving its people or rule with fear and their dumb fanboys do not see anything wrong with that...:rolleyes:

Reminds of Neo-Nazis now, who think Hitler was a great guy smh.
 

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Sigh.. Naruto is not exactly dumb. He is ignorant and lacks basic knowledge. If you never went to the school you would be dumb monkey too.
 
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