Muu vs Minato

[Zexion~]

Considering it's a tactic that has failed every single time someone has gotten fooled by a clone user, most of the time Naruto, I'm going to go ahead and say that this strategy won't work here.

And who told you that Minato would make clones and not move or try to mix himself with said clones to confuse Mu? Lmao. There wouldn't be any point of making clones in the first place if he was just going to remain in the same position.

Its not that hard to keep your eyes on a human being here, whats he going to do have the clones perform a double team?

 

[Beans2]

Then Minato can sense him.

-Mu goes invisible.
-Splits.
-Minato will sense 2 presences.
-2 presences will disappear once chakra suppression is used.

Thus Minato will know Mu used some kind of clone jutsu and proceeds to destroy Mu like I stated before.

Lmao.

Yeah Mu loses lol.

 

[KidGamer65]

Its not that hard to keep your eyes on a human being here, whats he going to do have the clones perform a double team?

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Have been tricked by these kinds of feints. "It's not that hard" isn't an argument. What the Manga shows is fact and that's something you clearly don't like to accept without unnecessarily going back and forth first. :lol

And let's also not forget that Minato has foot speed superior to someone who can catch SM Naruto on guard and can teleport. Don't even try to argue something as ridiculous as "he tracks the original because it's not hard to look at a person".

This guy really just repeated his last post instead of actually addressing what was directed towards him. Lmao.

 

[PhantomSage]

Gamabunta can spray the battlefield with his oil. It's not as if Muu is intangible like Kakashi and Obito, so the oil would stick onto him and Minato can see him. Simple.

 

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Have been tricked by these kinds of feints. "It's not that hard" isn't an argument. What the Manga shows is fact and that's something you clearly don't like to accept without unnecessarily going back and forth first. :lol

And let's also not forget that Minato has foot speed superior to someone who can catch SM Naruto on guard and can teleport. Don't even try to argue something as ridiculous as "he tracks the original because it's not hard to look at a person".

This guy really just repeated his last post instead of actually addressing what was directed towards him. Lmao.

Sasuke was getting ****ed of course he wouldn't have his attention, Mu will be patiently waiting in the sky invisible mind you lol didn't you say the clones split up as well?

 

[KidGamer65]

Sasuke was getting ****ed of course he wouldn't have his attention, Mu will be patiently waiting in the sky invisible mind you lol didn't you say the clones split up as well?

Sasuke took one hit, matched Naruto's other hit and then took out all his clones in a matter of seconds. Him getting kicked into the air doesn't mean that he's not paying any attention. Then we have Kakuzu. Then we have more instances I can dig up if you want. This strategy of yours does not and will not ever work. Manga supports that fact.

So? That doesn't change anything that's been said. Them not being together doesn't make it easier for Mu to guess the original.

 

[blazekev90]

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Have been tricked by these kinds of feints. "It's not that hard" isn't an argument. What the Manga shows is fact and that's something you clearly don't like to accept without unnecessarily going back and forth first. :lol

And let's also not forget that Minato has foot speed superior to someone who can catch SM Naruto on guard and can teleport. Don't even try to argue something as ridiculous as "he tracks the original because it's not hard to look at a person".

This guy really just repeated his last post instead of actually addressing what was directed towards him. Lmao.

What threat does Minato and clones pose when Muu is out of reach?

 

[Zexion~]

Sasuke took one hit, matched Naruto's other hit and then took out all his clones in a matter of seconds. Him getting kicked into the air doesn't mean that he's not paying any attention. Then we have Kakuzu. Then we have more instances I can dig up if you want. This strategy of yours does not and will not ever work. Manga supports that fact.

So? That doesn't change anything that's been said. Them not being together doesn't make it easier for Mu to guess the original.

The strategy only works if he actively tries to mix with his clones though lol every time its been used in the manga its simply summoning the clones which confuses the enemy which makes no sense at all.

 

[KidGamer65]

What threat does Minato and clones pose when Muu is out of reach?

What threat does Mu pose when he's out of reach not attacking? :lol

The strategy only works if he actively tries to mix with his clones though lol every time its been used in the manga its simply summoning the clones which confuses the enemy which makes no sense at all.

It makes perfect sense, and I already stated he'd do so anyway so idk why you are arguing against me still.

 

[blazekev90]

What threat does Mu pose when he's out of reach not attacking? :lol.

So you agree that Minato isn't a threat once Muu is airborne?

Muu has long distance attacks, so his presence alone would pose a threat to Minato.

what's stopping Muu from taking flight and going invisible for a stealth attack?

 

[KidGamer65]

So you agree that Minato isn't a threat once Muu is airborne?

Muu has long distance attacks, so his presence alone would pose a threat to Minato.

what's stopping Muu from taking flight and going invisible for a stealth attack?

No, but Mu isn't a threat to Minato either so that line of argumentation doesn't matter. Mu's only long range attack is an attack he needs to reveal himself to perform, and he has to be still to perform so that's just asking for Minato to kill him.

Everything I've posted in this thread up until now is what stops Mu from landing any stealth attacks on Minato.

 

[blazekev90]

No, but Mu isn't a threat to Minato either so that line of argumentation doesn't matter. Mu's only long range attack is an attack he needs to reveal himself to perform, and he has to be still to perform so that's just asking for Minato to kill him.

Everything I've posted in this thread up until now is what stops Mu from landing any stealth attacks on Minato.

So at that point, it'd be a stalemate if Muu chose not to use dust release. As expected and understood.

You've done no such thing. All you've done was mention clones being used in hopes that they would force Muu to using chakra based attack in order to reveal his location. Stealth attacks don't force him to reveal himself. Minato using clones would only delay the inevitable, death. IF Muu were to keep himself shielded in the process of attacking clones, Minato would only be aware of his whereabouts, not his exact location.

 

[KidGamer65]

So at that point, it'd be a stalemate if Muu chose not to use dust release. As expected and understood.

You've done no such thing. All you've done was mention clones being used in hopes that they would force Muu to using chakra based attack in order to reveal his location. Stealth attacks don't force him to reveal himself. Minato using clones would only delay the inevitable, death. IF Muu were to keep himself shielded in the process of attacking clones, Minato would only be aware of his whereabouts, not his exact location.

Nope. If you actually read before you responded you'd know that what I stated had nothing to do with Mu revealing himself. :lol Go read post #4 and then respond because I've already addressed 99% of what you've stated so far. The only way Mu can kill Minato's clones outside of Jinton is by going up close to them and killing them with physical attacks, thus he reveals his location and then everything else I've stated takes place.

 

[blazekev90]

Nope. If you actually read before you responded you'd know that what I stated had nothing to do with Mu revealing himself. :lol Go read post #4 and then respond because I've already addressed 99% of what you've stated so far. The only way Mu can kill Minato's clones outside of Jinton is by going up close to them and killing them with physical attacks, thus he reveals his location and then everything else I've stated takes place.

Re-read that post. Gotcha. However...

If an invisible Muu decapitates a clone, how would Minato know his exact location? Did he do this in front, behind or along the side? Minato wouldn't know this information. He'd leap into a situation that would leave him vulnerable for an attack.

Minato lacks an offensive attack that would pontentially disperse and hit Muu in that given scenario.

 

[KidGamer65]

Re-read that post. Gotcha. However...

If an invisible Muu decapitates a clone, how would Minato know his exact location? Did he do this in front, behind or along the side? Minato wouldn't know this information. He'd leap into a situation that would leave him vulnerable for an attack.

Minato lacks an offensive attack that would pontentially disperse and hit Muu in that given scenario.

The general area is the same, Minato can attack from multiple angles with clones or he can just use Hiraishin+Food Cart Destroyer to ensure that he kills Mu in one shot. The toad is wide enough to kill him no matter the position the clone was defeated from and since Minato is teleporting to that area w/ Hiraishin and using summoning (which is instant) Mu won't be able to react fast enough to evade.

 

[blazekev90]

The general area is the same, Minato can attack from multiple angles with clones or he can just use Hiraishin+Food Cart Destroyer to ensure that he kills Mu in one shot. The toad is wide enough to kill him no matter the position the clone was defeated from and since Minato is teleporting to that area w/ Hiraishin and using summoning (which is instant) Mu won't be able to react fast enough to evade.

FCD is a good counter for a stationary opponent. As I stated, Muu would be in flight and on the move, attempting to cut down clones one-by-one. It would be illogical for him to stay present at that location.

 

[KidGamer65]

FCD is a good counter for a stationary opponent. As I stated, Muu would be in flight and on the move, attempting to cut down clones one-by-one. It would be illogical for him to stay present at that location.

That's not the point. He has no time to move. If Minato's clones carry one of his Kunai:

-Clone gets killed.
-Kunai is left present.
-Minato immediately uses FCD on that location.

He has no time to fly and evade unless he's fast enough to evade a Hiraishin+FCD blitz.

Which he's not.

 

[Zexion~]

Mu can lighten the summon which makes FCD useless.

 

[KidGamer65]

Mu can lighten the summon which makes FCD useless.

When he can react that'll become borderline plausible. Until then, no. :lol

 

[blazekev90]

That's not the point. He has no time to move. If Minato's clones carry one of his Kunai:

-Clone gets killed.
-Kunai is left present.
-Minato immediately uses FCD on that location.

He has no time to fly and evade unless he's fast enough to evade a Hiraishin+FCD blitz.

Which he's not.

I don't think you're understanding. "He has no time to move." He'd already be in motion decapitating clones, he's flying by cutting them down.

To argue whether he'd be able to evade the radius of a toad be summoned, while already having in motion is ridiculous.
-Minato would have to acknowledge the clone killed.
-perform hand seals to summon toad.
-time lapse before road makes impact.

We've witness the speed of Muu/Onooki while in flight.