Manga Scans To Show Indirectly How Hinata Solo's The Cherry Blossom

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I am talking about Speed and its importance in CQC. Chidori cannot be used without CQC as it isn't a projectile. Kenjutsu is a CQC fighting style.

And I just proved to you that Chidori is infinitely better than a plain sword, yet, without the speed it doesn't matter at all. 64 points' blocking is no different. It's far superior than just a plain old punch, but without the speed, it's useless in CQC.

64 palms itself is already referred to as a series of high speed combo. What other speed would it need? When you're basically in each others faces (hence hand to hand) striking speed becomes the most important form of speed.
 
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In fanfictions? Sure.

Okay don't say fanfiction prove me wrong see this is the same thing you tell the other guy that I and prove me wrong because I can prove my fact just prove me wrong and we'll see about that because you know my I can pull out
 
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64 palms itself is already referred to as a series of high speed combo. What other speed would it need? When you're basically in each others faces (hence hand to hand) striking speed becomes the most important form of speed.

She has to start somewhere or not? Or will she start flailing about her arms in thin air and the high-speed combo will propel her towards Sakura and magically intercept? She has to CONNECT (damn, I am using capslock here as it doesn't seem to be sinking in at all) the first strike to start the combo. How is she connecting that "initial" strike?

You are not making even a smidgen of sense.
 

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She has to start somewhere or not? Or will she start flailing about her arms in thin air and the high-speed combo will propel her towards Sakura and magically intercept? She has to CONNECT (damn, I am using capslock here as it doesn't seem to be sinking in at all) the first strike to start the combo. How is she connecting that "initial" strike?

You are not making even a smidgen of sense.

Why would she flail her arms in thin air when Sakura would be right there in her front trying to punch her too? Are we not talking about cqc?
 

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Why would she flail her arms in thin air when Sakura would be right there in her front trying to punch her too? Are we not talking about cqc?

And what, she will stand still to allow Hinata to connect the initial jab of a finger? Go on, prove it through manga scans.

You don't even understand how CQC works. It works on speed and speed alone. This harlot's speed is bad. It is bad. It is bad. Her reaction rate is bad. It is bad. It is bad. You have no manga evidence to show otherwise. None at all.

Kindly, stop posting head-canon and bring out a scan.
 

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And what, she will stand still to allow Hinata to connect the initial jab of a finger? Go on, prove it through manga scans.

You don't even understand how CQC works. It works on speed and speed alone. This harlot's speed is bad. It is bad. It is bad. Her reaction rate is bad. It is bad. It is bad. You have no manga evidence to show otherwise. None at all.

Kindly, stop posting head-canon and bring out a scan.

If cqc worked on speed alone, Lee wouldn't have needed Ura renge to defeat Neji when his normal weighted speed was already faster than Neji's and his speed in 1st and 2nd gates would probably be double Neji's. He also would have never made . I basically don't even understand how speed is needed when the person would be right there in your face...at that point skill is all that would be needed lol
 

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If cqc worked on speed alone, Lee wouldn't have needed Ura renge to defeat Neji when his normal weighted speed was already faster than Neji's and his speed in 1st and 2nd gates would probably be double Neji's. He also would have never made . I basically don't even understand how speed is needed when the person would be right there in your face...at that point skill is all that would be needed lol

Already covered the point on Neji. No, it absolutely isn't.

Right there in the face means what? Sakura can easily evade her. Where are your scans? Care to post them?
 

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Already covered the point on Neji. No, it absolutely isn't.

Right there in the face means what? Sakura can easily evade her. Where are your scans? Care to post them?

You dismissed the Neji point as me comparing Hinata and Neji when I wasn't. Lee would have been 2x faster than Neji but Neji defeated him because of pure skill. I don't believe Sakura is 2x faster than Hinata but it doesn't matter anyway because movement speed doesn't matter in cqc and Hinata is more skillful than Sakura in cqc.
 

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You dismissed the Neji point as me comparing Hinata and Neji when I wasn't. Lee would have been 2x faster than Neji but Neji defeated him because of pure skill. I don't believe Sakura is 2x faster than Hinata but it doesn't matter anyway because movement speed doesn't matter in cqc and Hinata is more skillful than Sakura in cqc.

Lee with weights was 2X faster than Neji? Good one.

War-arc Sakura is 50 X faster than Hinata. Hinata has little skill in CQC.
 

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To be honest, Sakura's fighting style is too linear. She leaves too many openings. She pulls her fist back and throws a straight punch, Hinata casually dodges the predictable punch and finger rapes Sakura's arm as it is still extended, shutting off her entire chakra network. Stop using the small speed advantage Sakura has over Hinata. Speed isn't everything. The speed Hinata lacks by just a little, she makes up for with visual acuity, reflex, coordination and versatility. Sakura's best bet is punching the ground, and even then Hinata's byakugan can see through the generated smoke cloud. Sakura needs one punch, a punch that A. Is way too predictable and B. Leaves way too many openings. The difference in Taijutsu is clear, ladies and gentlemen :coffee:
 

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To be honest, Sakura's fighting style is too linear. She leaves too many openings. She pulls her fist back and throws a straight punch, Hinata casually dodges the predictable punch and finger rapes Sakura's arm as it is still extended, shutting off her entire chakra network. Stop using the small speed advantage Sakura has over Hinata. Speed isn't everything. The speed Hinata lacks by just a little, she makes up for with visual acuity, reflex, coordination and versatility. Sakura's best bet is punching the ground, and even then Hinata's byakugan can see through the generated smoke cloud. Sakura needs one punch, a punch that A. Is way too predictable and B. Leaves way too many openings. The difference in Taijutsu is clear, ladies and gentlemen :coffee:

Hinata solos! #mangafacts
 

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To be honest, Sakura's fighting style is too linear. She leaves too many openings. She pulls her fist back and throws a straight punch, Hinata casually dodges the predictable punch and finger rapes Sakura's arm as it is still extended, shutting off her entire chakra network. Stop using the small speed advantage Sakura has over Hinata. Speed isn't everything. The speed Hinata lacks by just a little, she makes up for with visual acuity, reflex, coordination and versatility. Sakura's best bet is punching the ground, and even then Hinata's byakugan can see through the generated smoke cloud. Sakura needs one punch, a punch that A. Is way too predictable and B. Leaves way too many openings. The difference in Taijutsu is clear, ladies and gentlemen :coffee:

Sakura's fighting style really doesn't matter in this case because she fast enough and smart enough to know not leave herself open for Hinata to land a successful "Palm" on her, which she can not do. What many of you are forgetting is that in combat Sakura is superior to Hinata (by feats) in all ways but for one taijutsu "technique" but that isn't enough for when combating a opponent who's stronger then you in all areas. Those areas being:

  • Speed
  • Strength
  • Stamina
  • Intelligence (big factor)

Now I will give you credit, Hinata's lack of speed & intelligence (my addtion) can be made up for her visual prowess but that can only take her so far against an opponent who's vastly superior in many ways and can theoretically reopen their chakra points using a sealed away source of chakra. Now what's killing me is the fact that you think Sakura will just charge Hinata head on and throw punches left & right lol, stop it!!!!!!!!!!! Sakura has proven that her she move analytically while moving at a fast pace, she's even proven that she out think l Hinata instantaneously even with the heighten perception her Byakugan allows her (scans below HINATA IN RED)..

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Hinata gets blitzed and one-shotted.
 

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Lee with weights was 2X faster than Neji? Good one.

War-arc Sakura is 50 X faster than Hinata. Hinata has little skill in CQC.

I was referring to 1st and 2nd Gated Lee who is portrayed in the manga as not being able to beat a Neji without rotation. That Lee would be many times faster and stronger than Neji but its implied Neji would still wreck why?
Saying Sakura is 50X faster than Hinata is...I don't even know what to say lol. She has never even displayed Part 1 Hinata's speed feat before iirc... That's just an amazing number you just conjured.
Hinata has little skill in cqc? So you are suggesting Sakura's skill in cqc is greater than Hinata's?
 

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I was referring to 1st and 2nd Gated Lee who is portrayed in the manga as not being able to beat a Neji without rotation. That Lee would be many times faster and stronger than Neji but its implied Neji would still wreck why?
Saying Sakura is 50X faster than Hinata is...I don't even know what to say lol. She has never even displayed Part 1 Hinata's speed feat before iirc... That's just an amazing number you just conjured.
Hinata has little skill in cqc? So you are suggesting Sakura's skill in cqc is greater than Hinata's?

What? Because of superior reaction rates and Katien. Does Hinata have those? Didn't think so.

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Look at the distance where Sakura is. She makes it before Sasori stabs Chiyo, when he's only about four feet away. Let's see any comparable feat from war-arc Hinata. I'll wait. Oh and, here is the war-arc feat from Sakura, someone, who is apparently beaten by Hinata (chuckles) of all the people, because she's "shoo fhast!"

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Yeah, she's totally touching that.
 
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What? Because of superior reaction rates and Katien. Does Hinata have those? Didn't think so.

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Look at the distance where Sakura is. She makes it before Sasori stabs Chiyo, when he's only about four feet away. Let's see any comparable feat from war-arc Hinata. I'll wait. Oh and, here is the war-arc feat from Sakura, someone, who is apparently beaten by Hinata (chuckles) of all the people, because she's "shoo fhast!"

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Yeah, she's totally touching that.

Neji didn't have Kaiten until his fight with Naruto though. Implying he could defeat 1st and 2nd Gated Lee with just superior taijutsu.
Nice Sakura scans...except they become redundant when we realize she could barely avoid the spikes from the juubi and had to be saved by Kakashi whereas Hinata wasn't shown having trouble handling them on her own.

That final scan though...are you perhaps one of those that would say Sakura has equal reactions to RSM Naruto and Rinnegan Sasuke? Things aren't drawn to scale in the manga and that blue line is laughable.
Look at that scan closely..It would imply Sakura is almost as tall as those pillars and she's so huge she covers about 80% of the width of the Juubi hand a feat we see needed to accomplish. That Juubi hand was very far out.
Not that all these matter though...reacting to something coming from a distance =/= cqc reactions. That's why there's a taijutsu stat in the DB.
 

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Neji didn't have Kaiten until his fight with Naruto though. Implying he could defeat 1st and 2nd Gated Lee with just superior taijutsu.
Nice Sakura scans...except they become redundant when we realize she could barely avoid the spikes from the juubi and had to be saved by Kakashi whereas Hinata wasn't shown having trouble handling them on her own.

That final scan though...are you perhaps one of those that would say Sakura has equal reactions to RSM Naruto and Rinnegan Sasuke? Things aren't drawn to scale in the manga and that blue line is laughable.
Look at that scan closely..It would imply Sakura is almost as tall as those pillars and she's so huge she covers about 80% of the width of the Juubi hand a feat we see needed to accomplish. That Juubi hand was very far out.
Not that all these matter though...reacting to something coming from a distance =/= cqc reactions. That's why there's a taijutsu stat in the DB.

Scans for the claims?

Was she handling them? Scans?

Who cares? Those Chakra arms are fast. She evaded them. Again, where are your scans for Hinata?
 

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Scans for the claims?

Was she handling them? Scans?

Who cares? Those Chakra arms are fast. She evaded them. Again, where are your scans for Hinata?

-Neji perfecting what would be Kaiten before his match with Naruto ( )

- Hinata intercepting and deflecting the spikes ( )
- Who cares?..So we should just assume Sakura =RSM Naruto and Rinnegan Sasuke in reactions then? Or perhaps even > Rinnegan Sasuke since he didn't even react at all?
 

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I thought that both of them are useless ? Why should one care about ants when he can watch kage level ninja battle or even higher?
 
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