He can perfectly balance his natural energy and chakra to form senjutsu chakra, but that's it really. Actual SM drastically empowers all of the user's capabilities and techs and the word "mode" itself implies something that lasts over an extended period of time.
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Either way you look at it, it's not viable for battle and only puts him at a disadvantage.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not arguing for Itachi because the outcome is never as easy as many members would like to think. The nature of battle is unpredictable, and a single unexpected movement can drastically turn the tables.
Depends, in minato had a feeling this would happen he places a ftg mark on itachi and teleports there killing itachi instantly if he feels like it lol, if not minato can outlast itachi his reserves are $h!t especially with toad summons he may be able to time space barrier away amaterasu if not sacrifice some frogs and kill itachi after he uses susanoo for 45 seconds
No kill intent. He was literally leaving. Dude literally stalled in mid air and looked at Raikage seriously this evidence shit is unneeded for something you can see yourself lol. There is no excuses dude he would literally kill Raikage and Bee in an instant.
If he can't then you're saying Obito with senju DNA, MS, and kamui wouldn't defeat Raikage and Bee? Because Minato owned him entirely.
No FTG... by someone who fought beside and seen FTG too:
That means nothing at all. Would that make him slower? No. He was using his full reflex action speed and repeatedly failing to get an upper hand on teenage Bee. Stalled in mid-air? Are you trolling, mate? What, he has powers to manipulate gravity or has wings or something? What an absurd excuse. I hope you read what you type. This actually took me by surprise.
Kill them how? He has nothing on him to kill Ae and teenage Bee had faster reflexes than this guy. No amount of flip-flopping alters that.
That's A B C logic. Some people have advantages over others. Let's see how he takes on adult Obito.
That feat is not even remotely impressive. Hebi Sasuke blitzed a CS2 creature and slashed it up at about nine places and traveled further as well; Karin and Suigetsu are about half the size of his head. Heck, MS Sasuke (the slowest version of Sasuke in Part II) once healed by Karin showed much faster reflexes than Adult Cloaked Bee (cloaked!) when he jumped on his back and rolled several times in air and Bee has yet to even move:
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Let's see how Sasuke performed several high-speed reflex-actions against an aerial opponent:
He starts using his Shurikenjutsu here by fooling Deidara into taking a hit and drawing him near:
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He avoids the mines and the coming C2 bomb while trying to catch Deidara:
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Then he jumps up, flies with his one wing and uses Chidori spear to cut off the wing ... all the time whilst still operating his Fuma Shuriken and then pins Deidara down:
And how did Minato perform against his teenage, non-cloaked version? Wait, he failed! Twice! When ALL he had to do was match him with mental and small physical reactions:
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He never saw that tentacle coming! His exclamation marks prove that. He never anticipated Bee to stalemate him easily with superior reflexes. Not once, but twice!
Itachi was faster than Hebi Sasuke (he should be very slighter slower than his EMS version) in his sick state. You know how he performed against an adult Bee who was shaming Naruto's pathetic speed feats in KCM and BM?
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Notice how Bee's scarf has yet to come down and Itachi has already flashed away. So, Minato, who couldn't outspeed a teenaged, non-cloaked Bee with repeated use and abuse of FTG, is somehow ... I don't know how, and without any evidence in the manga, outspeeds a guy that is faster than MS Sasuke who was moving faster than (once healed) cloaked Bee that led Bee to comment that Sasuke's speed and reflex action matched Ae's - not a surprise as he easily outmaneuvered Ae in V1 cloak?
Also the fact that you're comparing real alive Minato to edo Itachi with no physical limitations and under control by Kabuto vs Bee and KCM Naruto is a joke.
Shouldn't even be arguably honestly.
Shelke you cannot defeat me Lol all this has already been decided long ago. I'm with you with Sauce > Noodles but Minato and Itachi is an entirely different story. He would get blitz beyond belief .. not even gonna bring up the fact that Kabuto blitzed dude several times DSM or not Minato is still faster than him and SM Naruto.
Minato speed is none debatable. Only canon people faster than him on foot is Sasuke, Naruto, Obito (jin), Madara (jin), and Kaguya.
This has got to be the most absurd comeback you could think of. Are you seriously suggesting that Itachi was made to move faster by Kabuto? Where is your proof?
No, I cannot, as there is no counter for made-up stuff, I believe.
I don't think so. Minato's fictional, head-canon speed that cannot be evaded is absolutely debatable and is a stuff of jokes.
Serious question, why is bee countering with the tentacle or even when minato went behind him a factor when bee wasn't even involved in the fight really? When he blocks minatos strike on ay he was literally just sitting around watching, how does that show anything? Of course he could counter for ay if he's not even fighting. The second time bee was also just sitting there doing nothing again. If your not directly engaging/being engaged its a lot easier to see what's going on an analyze isn't it? I would think so
It never cease to amaze when those arguing for Itachi love to exaggerate what happened. Itachi has never once showed to bypass Bee's reflex. Exclamation mark to express Bee's response to Itachi's Shunshin is invalid, when we see it written to express Nagato's and Naruto's responses too, so this is plain laughable brought up by those arguing for Itachi. Not to mention Bee overwhelmed in CQC via 7 Sword unorthodox style later on, so there is no way Itachi was faster than what Bee can react to, nor Itachi is faster than Minato.
Base Minato vs Itachi can go either, to be honest. If Minato manages to mark him in CQC, which he can or throws a marked kunai in close range, then Minato one-shots him with that. Summons are irrelevant as Itachi can control them with Sharingan. Edo Minato with access to Kurama's Chaka obviously child abuses him all night long.
KCM Naruto's speed is hilariously mediocre given that every opponent from a tree root to a nearly still Obito (he took out more than two of his KCM clones by simply moving his hands as if he was swatting flies) managed to humiliate him and then some, despite the aid from Bee, Kakashi and Gai.
KCM Naruto's speed is hilariously mediocre given that every opponent from a tree root to nearly still Obito managed to humiliate him and then some, despite the aid from Bee, Kakashi and Gai.
An impressive write-up. However, you seem to gloss over Minato's (single) impressive speed feat that puts him above Itachi. He was able to save Kushina from Kurama's strike [
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An impressive write-up. However, you seem to gloss over Minato's (single) impressive speed feat that puts him above Itachi. He was able to save Kushina from Kurama's strike [
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