[Question] Is Zoro the 2nd in command of the SHs?

[loj]

Try to twist it however you want. He wasn't just expressing his opinion, he ORDERED Luffy to drop it. He didn't say "You should drop it," he didn't say "I think you should drop it," he COMMANDED for Luffy to drop it. That's disrespect to Luffy's authority.



Yup, pathetic. You tried to say Usopp is incapable of protecting the crew, and can't even admit that statement was wrong despite the fact that those pages show him saving Luffy's life. You really think Usopp saving Luffy's life is up to interpretation.

Didn't I just say I made a mistake? Bruh...at least I didn't ignore the posts like you do when you make a mistake...I literally said I made a mistake saying it like that since really...I thought you could have click since I said if you are not strong you are out one or 2 posts before :|

 

[Dannie]

Try to twist it however you want. He wasn't just expressing his opinion, he ORDERED Luffy to drop it. He didn't say "You should drop it," he didn't say "I think you should drop it," he COMMANDED for Luffy to drop it. That's disrespect to Luffy's authority.

Shall we count all the times Nami has called Luffy stupid. I guess that's a disrespect towards Luffy's authority too, hm?

Luffy clearly didn't care about Zoro doing what he did, but it was very apparent that what Usopp did was far past "disrespect."

 

[loj]

The only difference is that they didn't escalate into a physical fight. Usopp and Zoro disrespected Luffy's authority in the same way. Luffy gave them an order on what they were doing, and they both said "No, we're doing this instead."

I don't follow and what Zoro did after he said that to Luffy? nothing he followed whatever was said after that since he went with other crew and left Luffy going to Sanji :|

Shall we count all the times Nami has called Luffy stupid. [/B]I guess that's a disrespect towards Luffy's authority too, hm?

Luffy clearly didn't care about Zoro doing what he did, but it was very apparent that what Usopp did was far past "disrespect."

Couldn't have said it better.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Didn't I just say I made a mistake? Bruh...at least I didn't ignore the posts like you do when you make a mistake...I literally said I made a mistake saying it like that since really...I thought you could have click since I said if you are not strong you are out one or 2 posts before :|

You said your mistake was the way you worded your post. Your mistake was actually the idea behind your post period, not just how you said it.

 

[loj]

You said your mistake was the way you worded your post. Your mistake was actually the idea behind your post period, not just how you said it.

Yeah how I worded it since one or two posts I said if you are not strong in OP world you are out...you didn't get what I said so it's mistake on my point >_> thought you would click on it but meeeh...

 

[Punk Hazard]

Shall we count all the times Nami has called Luffy stupid. I guess that's a disrespect towards Luffy's authority too, hm?

Luffy clearly didn't care about Zoro doing what he did, but it was very apparent that what Usopp did was far past "disrespect."

The difference is that Nami didn't try to order Luffy to do the opposite of the order he had already given. Insulting Luffy isn't on the same level as Luffy saying "We're doing this," and a crewmember going "No, we're doing this instead."

I don't follow and what Zoro did after he said that to Luffy? nothing he followed whatever was said after that since he went with other crew and left Luffy going to Sanji :|

Still doesn't change that he disrespected Luffy's authority. Even if he didn't disrespect it as much as Usopp did, he still disrespected it, which is something he said should absolutely not be done ever.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Yeah how I worded it since one or two posts I said if you are not strong in OP world you are out...you didn't get what I said so it's mistake on my point >_> thought you would click on it but meeeh...

This is untrue, considering people like Caesar and Caribou have been surviving in the New World for decades. By this logic, Usopp should be dead because he's too weak to survive. What's stopping him from surviving just like he is now and being Luffy's right hand man because he's the closest one to Luffy? Nothing.

 

[Avani]

Try to twist it however you want. He wasn't just expressing his opinion, he ORDERED Luffy to drop it. He didn't say "You should drop it," he didn't say "I think you should drop it," he COMMANDED for Luffy to drop it. That's disrespect to Luffy's authority.



Yup, pathetic. You tried to say Usopp is incapable of protecting the crew, and can't even admit that statement was wrong despite the fact that those pages show him saving Luffy's life. You really think Usopp saving Luffy's life is up to interpretation.

"Luffy, Zoro, and Nami will be the trigger of ONE PIECE."

-Oda Color Walk 1 (2001)

Zoro has definitely been far more important than you are willing to accept.

 

[loj]

The difference is that Nami didn't try to order Luffy to do the opposite of the order he had already given. Insulting Luffy isn't on the same level as Luffy saying "We're doing this," and a crewmember going "No, we're doing this instead."


Still doesn't change that he disrespected Luffy's authority. Even if he didn't disrespect it as much as Usopp did, he still disrespected it, which is something he said should absolutely not be done ever.

HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA this guy is literally doing everything to make Zoro a shitty character XD bruh...get over it...is Zoro too disrespecting Luffy 'cause Zoro orderd Luffy what to do on Water 7? Or when Sanji kicked Luffy when Luffy and Usopp where in conflict? bloody hell you are trying so hard to make Zoro shit...

This is untrue, considering people like Caesar and Caribou have been surviving in the New World for decades. By this logic, Usopp should be dead because he's too weak to survive. What's stopping him from surviving just like he is now and being Luffy's right hand man because he's the closest one to Luffy? Nothing.

Welp I don't remember Usopp beating anyone stronger hence Usopp is there thanks to Luffy,Zoro and Sanji beating all the tough guys...

Again Usopp will never be Luffy's first mate after Water 7 incident.

 

[Punk Hazard]

HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA this guy is literally doing everything to make Zoro a shitty character XD

Not at all. Just pointing out how the flaw you find in Usopp can also be found in Zoro.

bruh...get over it...is Zoro too disrespecting Luffy 'cause Zoro orderd Luffy what to do on Water 7? Or when Sanji kicked Luffy when Luffy and Usopp where in conflict? bloody hell you are trying so hard to make Zoro shit...

Zoro didn't order Luffy on Water 7 though. He expressed what a captain SHOULD do, and left the decision up to Luffy, who then CHOSE to go along with it. What's different about Zou is that Zoro expressed it in an attempt to give Luffy no choice.

Welp I don't remember Usopp beating anyone stronger hence Usopp is there thanks to Luffy,Zoro and Sanji beating all the tough guys...

So what? This doesn't change that Usopp saved Luffy's life on Dressrosa. It doesn't matter how many times others have done it. You said Usopp is incapable of doing it, and I showed you an instance where he did do it. You can post every Zoro, Luffy, and Sanji fight, and it won't matter because it wouldn't make the instance of Usopp saving Luffy's life non-existent.

Not to mention that Usopp saved Zoro's life from Kizaru as well.

Again Usopp will never be Luffy's first mate after Water 7 incident.

By this logic, Zoro can never be first mate because he threatened to kill Luffy. If Zoro can develop and redeem himself from this, then Usopp can do the same.

 

[A v i]

Usopp became a savior by saving Luffy and Law. And Zoro is the savior of saviors. {

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[loj]

Not at all. Just pointing out how the flaw you find in Usopp can also be found in Zoro.


Zoro didn't order Luffy on Water 7 though. He expressed what a captain SHOULD do, and left the decision up to Luffy, who then CHOSE to go along with it. What's different about Zou is that Zoro expressed it in an attempt to give Luffy no choice.



So what? This doesn't change that Usopp saved Luffy's life on Dressrosa. It doesn't matter how many times others have done it. You said Usopp is incapable of doing it, and I showed you an instance where he did do it. You can post every Zoro, Luffy, and Sanji fight, and it won't matter because it wouldn't make the instance of Usopp saving Luffy's life non-existent.

Not to mention that Usopp saved Zoro's life from Kizaru as well.

By this logic, Zoro can never be first mate because he threatened to kill Luffy.

Did I say anywhere that Usopp didn't save Luffy at Dressrosa? I must have missed it :| I said the wording was wrong can you stop talking about this :| I said it's a mistake 3 times now :|

Zoro still didn't disrespect Luffy to the point to fight the captain and then leave the crew...and then beg the shit out of him to join back the first mate shouldn't act like that...especially since Usopp is scared 24/7 everytime he sees someone strong :| if that's how first mate should act then fuk me.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Usopp became a savior by saving Luffy and Law. And Zoro is the savior of saviors. {

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How does this change that Loj said Usopp can't protect the crew despite the manga showing Usopp saving the captain's life?

 

[loj]

4th time messed up the wording :| bruh...

 

[Punk Hazard]

Did I say anywhere that Usopp didn't save Luffy at Dressrosa? I must have missed it :| I said the wording was wrong can you stop talking about this :| I said it's a mistake 3 times now :|

How do you accidentally say Usopp can't protect the crew? What were you trying to say?

Zoro still didn't disrespect Luffy to the point to fight the captain and then leave the crew...

I literally say in my post he didn't take the disrespect as far as Usopp did. This doesn't contradict my argument.

and then beg the shit out of him to join back the first mate shouldn't act like that...especially since Usopp is scared 24/7 everytime he sees someone strong :| if that's how first mate should act then fuk me.

Except Usopp has shown time and time again that when his crew is in danger, he faces his fear, gets over it, and gets the job done. It's funny how you guys love to say Zoro developed from "I'll kill you Luffy," but remain actively ignorant to Usopp getting braver and braver with stronger and stronger resolve.

If Zoro can develop to the point that "I'll kill you" is just in the past, then Usopp can develop so that Water 7 also stays in the past.

 

[loj]

How do you accidentally say Usopp can't protect the crew? What were you trying to say?


I literally say in my post he didn't take the disrespect as far as Usopp did. This doesn't contradict my argument.



Except Usopp has shown time and time again that when his crew is in danger, he faces his fear, gets over it, and gets the job done. It's funny how you guys love to say Zoro developed from "I'll kill you Luffy," but remain actively ignorant to Usopp getting braver and braver with stronger and stronger resolve.

If Zoro can develop to the point that "I'll kill you" is just in the past, then Usopp can develop so that Water 7 also stays in the past.

I literally said one or two posts before saying that if you are not strong enough you are out of One Piece...I wanted to say how could someone like Usopp beat someone who is at least as strong as Zoro's opponents or Sanji's to protect the crew :|

Nice I don't see Luffy being mad on Zoro saying the things he said to him...my God I feel like I'm talking to an idiot atm...why are you trying so hard to make Zoro shit wether you like it or not Zoro is very important to the crew...

 

[RJ22BIG]

'Cause if you are not strong in OP world you are out,no way in hell someone like Usopp can be a first mate...just makes no sense.Usopp can't do shit to protect the crew nor I don't see how would he handle the crew since he is basically the clown of the crew...

After Water 7 Usopp can't be the first mate now even if he wanted...

Buggy isn't strong and the pirates underneath him have higher bounties then him and are stronger then him but he is still the captain and leader. Physical strength doesn't define a leader. King Riku isn't the strongest but he is king and an outstanding one at that. Weaker guys can command stronger people.

 

[Punk Hazard]

I literally said one or two posts before saying that if you are not strong enough you are out of One Piece...

The fact that Usopp is still in just shows that this doesn't apply to him.

I wanted to say how could someone like Usopp beat someone who is at least as strong as Zoro's opponents or Sanji's to protect the crew :|

Doesn't need to be to be Luffy's right hand man.

Nice I don't see Luffy being mad on Zoro saying the things he said to him...my God I feel like I'm talking to an idiot atm...why are you trying so hard to make Zoro shit

Does. Not. Matter. I said it didn't go as far as Usopp did, which is why Luffy didn't get mad, but it's still disrespect. Just because it's less disrespect doesn't mean it isn't still disrespect.

 

[loj]

Buggy isn't strong and the pirates underneath him have higher bounties then him and are stronger then him but he is still the captain and leader. Physical strength doesn't define a leader. King Riku isn't the strongest but he is king and an outstanding one at that. Weaker guys can command stronger people.

Yeah tell me how that can be compared to someone who is going for the One Piece treasure...also King =/= Pirate

 

[loj]

The fact that Usopp is still in just shows that this doesn't apply to him.


Doesn't need to be to be Luffy's right hand man.


Does. Not. Matter. I said it didn't go as far as Usopp did, which is why Luffy didn't get mad, but it's still disrespect. Just because it's less disrespect doesn't mean it isn't still disrespect.

Yeah 'cause he doesn't need to do jack shit against stronger guys...since Luffy,Sanji and Zoro take care of the stuff...Usopp alone said he is not as strong as others LOL

You are an idiot if you think what Usopp did and what Zoro did is the same or some kind of disrespect on Zoro's part...