[Question] Is Zoro the 2nd in command of the SHs?

[loj]

Marco wasn't unofficial. The fact that he took the crew after Whitebeard's dead was what officialized his status as the First Mate. Zoro doesn't have anything like that.

Also, unofficial first mate is a meaningless title. That's like me saying Robin is the unofficial first mate because she gives Luffy information about the world.

You are mixing the job they are supposed to do and acts what Zoro did and how is he described XD Robin is on the ship to decipher the poneglyphs same how Nami is there to navigate that has absolutely nothing to do with being first mate...that's just their job.As far as I know Zoro is nothing officialy on the ship that's one of the reason why Oda is definitely pushing Zoro towards the first mate direction.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Zoro is nothing officialy on the ship.

Only accurate thing you've said all thread. It's a wonder why Zoro's job is always listed as "the swordsman" and never as "First Mate."

 

[loj]

Only accurate thing you've said all thread. It's a wonder why Zoro's job is always listed as "the swordsman" and never as "First Mate."

So being a swordman isn't a job on the ship.Oda is a smart man.Everyone has a job on the ship.

Sanji - Cook
Nami - Navigator
Robin - Archeology
Usopp - Sniper
Chopper - Doctor
Brook - Musician
Franky - Shipwright
Luffy - Captain

Zoro - ??????? betting my money on him being the first mate even though it was never confirmed.People and I showed you panels of why is Oda pushing Zoro towards that position.Being a swordman isn't a job.Him having no job is even more likely Zoro is going towards first mate position.

 

[ToshiZO]

Lmao swordsman isn't a job, it's a fighting style. Zoro doesn't have a set role in the crew, that is exactly why he thinks of himself as the guardian of the crew. If he can't even do that one job what other role does he have in the crew? Its why he knocked Sanji out and dealt with Kuma by himself.

 

[loj]

Lmao swordsman isn't a job, it's a fighting style. Zoro doesn't have a set role in the crew, that is exactly why he thinks of himself as the guardian of the crew. If he can't even do that one job what other role does he have in the crew? Its why he knocked Sanji out and dealt with Kuma by himself.

This the fuking reason Oda is pushing Zoro towards the first mate position.Betting my money that Oda will announce it one day.Either in an interview or manga directly.

 

[Punk Hazard]

So being a swordman isn't a job on the ship.Oda is a smart man.Everyone has a job on the ship.

Sanji - Cook
Nami - Navigator
Robin - Archeology
Usopp - Sniper
Chopper - Doctor
Brook - Musician
Franky - Shipwright
Luffy - Captain

Zoro - ??????? betting my money on him being the first mate even though it was never confirmed.People and I showed you panels of why is Oda pushing Zoro towards that position.Being a swordman isn't a job.Him having no job is even more likely Zoro is going towards first mate position.

Lmao swordsman isn't a job, it's a fighting style. Zoro doesn't have a set role in the crew, that is exactly why he thinks of himself as the guardian of the crew. If he can't even do that one job what other role does he have in the crew? Its why he knocked Sanji out and dealt with Kuma by himself.

That's kind of my point. Of all the times Oda has drawn wanted posters and did table of contents panels of the Strawhats with their roles listed, he always puts the non-job of "swordsman" instead of "First mate." It's really peculiar that if Oda was going so far out of his way to make Zoro the first mate, he'd just list that instead of "swordsman," especially after the crew got a second one, during the many many "Crew summary" pages.

Also, Zoro has never been the "guardian" of the crew. I'd like to see one panel of Zoro expressing that he thinks of himself as the crew's guardian.

 

[ToshiZO]

That's kind of my point. Of all the times Oda has drawn wanted posters and did table of contents panels of the Strawhats with their roles listed, he always puts the non-job of "swordsman" instead of "First mate." It's really peculiar that if Oda was going so far out of his way to make Zoro the first mate, he'd just list that instead of "swordsman," especially after the crew got a second one, during the many many "Crew summary" pages.

Also, Zoro has never been the "guardian" of the crew.

Oda does not want Zoro to outright be the first mate. The SH crew doesn't work like that, they are one big family.

Zoro is the closest thing to an unofficial first mate. Zoro has no role otherwise.

 

[loj]

That's kind of my point. Of all the times Oda has drawn wanted posters and did table of contents panels of the Strawhats with their roles listed, he always puts the non-job of "swordsman" instead of "First mate." It's really peculiar that if Oda was going so far out of his way to make Zoro the first mate, he'd just list that instead of "swordsman," especially after the crew got a second one, during the many many "Crew summary" pages.

Also, Zoro has never been the "guardian" of the crew. I'd like to see one panel of Zoro expressing that he thinks of himself as the crew's guardian.

Strawhats are a big family that must be one of the reason why Oda doesn't want to put one over another at least officialy where unofficialy it's just a no brainer who's the first mate.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Oda does not want Zoro to outright be the first mate. The SH crew doesn't work like that, they are one big family.

Oda doesn't want the crew to have a first mate, Oda wants the crew to be portrayed as one family unit, yet Oda is also pushing for Zoro to be the first mate. Y'all puts it DOWN with the logic.

Zoro is the closest thing to an unofficial first mate. Zoro has no role otherwise.

So lemme get this straight. Zoro isn't even the unofficial first mate, which is a title that has no meaning and doesn't exist, but he's the closest thing to it. Of all the people that are almost the almost first mate, Zoro is the almostest. Not only is the role imaginary, Zoro isn't actually in it. Zoro is the unofficial unoffical first mate. Y'all. Are. Funnyyyyyy

 

[loj]

Oda doesn't want the crew to have a first mate, Oda wants the crew to be portrayed as one family unit, yet Oda is also pushing for Zoro to be the first mate. Y'all puts it DOWN with the logic.


So lemme get this straight. Zoro isn't even the unofficial first mate, which is a title that has no meaning and doesn't exist, but he's the closest thing to it. Of all the people that are almost the almost first mate, Zoro is the almostest. Not only is the role imaginary, Zoro isn't actually in it. Zoro is the unofficial unoffical first mate. Y'all. Are. Funnyyyyyy

I don't expect you to get this anyways since you can't even answer a YES or NO question :| it's obvious af that you have a Zoro hate XD if you haven't realized by now...you'll never realize it.

 

[giostep]

Until someone does anything CLOSE to this....Zoro is the first-mate

Spoiler

This is totally right, and more than enough proof of Zoros place in the crew, thinking about the crew and the long term even when the captain isnt, and making sure nobody even a crew member takes there dutys or the captains position lightly.

 

[Punk Hazard]

I don't expect you to get this anyways since you can't even answer a YES or NO question :|

I did answer the question. I even highlighted where I answered the question for you. Go back and read it.

it's obvious af that you have a Zoro hate XD if you haven't realized by now...you'll never realize it.

It has nothing to do with how I feel about Zoro. I've said time and time again in this section, and a couple times in this thread, that I think the Strawhats have NO first mate. The thread can be asking is "XYZ the first mate," and I'd say no just like I am with this thread.

Instead of hiding behind "This person doesn't suck Zoro's balls off, he must be a hater," you should try contemplating the idea that Zoro isn't as great as you might be overhyping him to be. I can like Zoro for what he is without worshipping him for something he isn't. Contrary to your willful ignorance, I very much like Zoro's character, I just don't think he's as great/in the role as you do.

 

[ToshiZO]

Oda doesn't want the crew to have a first mate, Oda wants the crew to be portrayed as one family unit, yet Oda is also pushing for Zoro to be the first mate. Y'all puts it DOWN with the logic.


So lemme get this straight. Zoro isn't even the unofficial first mate, which is a title that has no meaning and doesn't exist, but he's the closest thing to it. Of all the people that are almost the almost first mate, Zoro is the almostest. Not only is the role imaginary, Zoro isn't actually in it. Zoro is the unofficial unoffical first mate. Y'all. Are. Funnyyyyyy

Pretty much yea.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Pretty much yea.

I'M CRYING FAM NOOOOOo

 

[loj]

Just admit it Riker you have no ideas anymore after "he's more popular" hahahahhahahah now that was a sentence of someone who clearly got his ideas locked in a locker you are out of ideas now you can just act dumb tbh...

Haven't heard a worst excuse in a while ^^ these facts done you good haven't they? You were cornered with these panels how Luffy is always calling the crew Zoro & co.

 

[ToshiZO]

I'M CRYING FAM NOOOOOo

You haven't brought anything to the table in this whole thread to take any other outlook on this subject seriously. Even I could come up with a better counter argument for half these things.

Just admit it Riker you have no ideas anymore after "he's more popular" hahahahhahahah now that was a sentence of someone who clearly got his ideas locked in a locker you are out of ideas now you can just act dumb tbh...

Haven't heard a worst excuse in a while ^^

That "more popular" argument killed me.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Marco wasn't unofficial. The fact that he took the crew after Whitebeard's dead was what officialized his status as the First Mate. Zoro doesn't have anything like that.

Also, unofficial first mate is a meaningless title. That's like me saying Robin is the unofficial first mate because she gives Luffy information about the world.

Marco was equal in authority to the other division commanders until WB died. He then took over as captain since he was the 2nd strongest of the WB Pirates. The same applies to Zoro. If Luffy were to die, Zoro would take over as captain.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Just admit it Riker you have no ideas anymore after "he's more popular" hahahahhahahah now that was a sentence of someone who clearly got his ideas locked in a locker you are out of ideas now you can just act dumb tbh...

Haven't heard a worst excuse in a while ^^ these facts done you good haven't they? You were cornered with these panels how Luffy is always calling the crew Zoro & co.

Ikr almost as bad as how you conveniently chose to ignore the fact that Zoro has been continuously listed as "swordsman," rather than "first mate."

You haven't brought anything to the table in this whole thread to take any other outlook on this subject seriously. Even I could come up with a better counter argument for half these things.



That "more popular" argument killed me.

Is it as funny as admitting that the first mate role you try to assign to Zoro is not only imaginary and has no meaning, but he isn't even in it, just "almost in it?"

 

[loj]

Ikr almost as bad as how you conveniently chose to ignore the fact that Zoro has been continuously listed as "swordsman," rather than "first mate."



Is it as funny as admitting that the first mate role you try to assign to Zoro is not only imaginary and has no meaning, but he isn't even in it, just "almost in it?"

If you think I don't know Zoro is considered a swordman in OP then WTF but you can be both swordman and a first mate XD other than him being a swordman he is nothing on the ship which makes zero sencs when everyone else has something on it so it's natural to think what's Zoro's position in SH's without having an official confirmation...you can do 1+1 we've showed you the panels...but this got pathetic second after you went on with "more popular" argument

 

[RJ22BIG]

This is totally right, and more than enough proof of Zoros place in the crew, thinking about the crew and the long term even when the captain isnt, and making sure nobody even a crew member takes there dutys or the captains position lightly.

That's funny because before all of that when luffy told usopp if you don't like the way things are maybe you should leave. It was sanji who kicked luffy before he could finish his statement put his captain in check and cooling down that whole situation. You asked for it and I've given you the situation so I guess zoro isn't a 2nd in command that was easy.