Izanami is NOT an asspull

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Ask kishi bro I didnt write the manga.
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He wrote that Kabuto fight well after this and created a plot hole just for Itachi to win with an asspull move.

That same kishi said other uchiha's used it in the past, hashi dna just prolongs the effect, but it's not among the qualifications

He had all the intel on Itachi; Sage Mode; Sound 4 abilities; along with Hashirama and Orochimaru cells. There was no reason he should have been defeated the easily.

He did'nt have intel on izanami + the uchiha bros did counter his moves, it's not like he had an op technique he did'nt use
 

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That same kishi said other uchiha's used it in the past, hashi dna just prolongs the effect, but it's not among the qualifications



He did'nt have intel on izanami + the uchiha bros did counter his moves, it's not like he had an op technique he did'nt use

I just posted a scan of the contriduction bro. An asspull move and a plothole in one. You need both powers to use izanagi. Deny it if you want.

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Izanami and Itachis WHOLE story about it is an Asspull.
 
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That same Kishi said another Uchiha's used it in the past, Hashirama DNA just prolongs the effect, but it's not among the qualifications



He didn't have intel on Izanami + the Uchiha bros did counter his moves, it's not like he had an op technique he didn't use

Of course, he didn't have intel on Izanami, that was an asspull.

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I see you dont read the manga at all bro. Only the caster can undue Edo Tensei and send them back to the pure world. And that scroll was of the Reaper Death Seal Belly.

He still wouldn't need Izanami to make him undo it, normal MS genjutsu can make him do so, the reason Itachi used Izanami was because he felt sorry for Kabuto and nothing else.
 

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He still wouldn't need Izanami to make him undo it, normal MS genjutsu can make him do so, the reason Itachi used Izanami was because he felt sorry for Kabuto and nothing else.

They couldnt get him in MS genjutsu because he blocked his eyes. Izanami trapped him and made him immobile. This allowed Itachi to raise the eyelids blocking eyesight. Bro I swear you dont read the manga.
 

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I just posted a scan of the contriduction bro. An asspull move and a plothole in one. You need both powers to use izanagi. Deny it if you want.

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Izanami and Itachis WHOLE story about it is an Asspull.
Meh. They were talking about Izanagi in the scan. Not Izanami.
 

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They couldnt get him in MS genjutsu because he blocked his eyes. Izanami trapped him and made him immobile. This allowed Itachi to raise the eyelids blocking eyesight. Bro I swear you dont read the manga.

Nope, Itachi made eye contact with him when he was about to use Izanami at that point he could've used normal MS genjutsu instead
 

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Meh. They were talking about Izanagi in the scan. Not Izanami.

Lol okay man. Izanami was created to purge the excessive amount of izanagi users overusing izanagi within the uchiha clan. Izanagi is a rare jutsu only Sasuke/Obiti/Madara are qualified to use. #asspull
 

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Lol okay man. Izanami was created to purge the excessive amount of izanagi users overusing izanagi within the uchiha clan. Izanagi is a rare jutsu only Sasuke/Obiti/Madara are qualified to use. #asspull
Well it makes sense that only they could use it as it is an Uchiha Technique and they were survivors of the Clan. I'm sure if Shisui was around he'd be using it too.

It's an Uchiha Tech. Doesnt make it an asspull. It's more of an asspull that Kakashi could use Mangekyo Sharingan for as long as he did.
 
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Nope, Itachi made eye contact with him when he was about to use Izanami at that point he could've used normal MS genjutsu instead

Thats wasnt genjutsu
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Their real life crows with Itachi's dispersed Chakra.
 
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Well it makes sense only they could use it as it is an Uchiha Jutsu and they were the only survivors of the clan. I

'm sure if Shisui was around he'd be using it too. It's an Uchiha Tech; more precisely a Sharingan Technique. Doesnt make it an asspull.

You completely missing the fact that only those with power of uchiha and senju can use it. More preferably hashiramas perfecr cells and their life force.

No matter how much sense it makes kishi overwrite a whole story with another and tacked on an asspull move with it.
 

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Thats wasnt genjutsu
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You see at that point Kabuto was completely exposed, Itachi could've easily cast the genjutsu like Madara did on Raikage and Sasuke did on White Zetsu.

And to further prove Itachi was nerfed he made it clear in part 1 that genjutsu doesn't solely rely on eye contact but on any of the 5 senses.

In fact, he could've already cast it before the fight started like he did with Deidara and Sasuke, he didn't have to wait for Kabuto to have prep time.
 

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I just posted a scan of the contriduction bro. An asspull move and a plothole in one. You need both powers to use izanagi. Deny it if you want.

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Izanami and Itachis WHOLE story about it is an Asspull.





It's a kinjutsu that's why it was'nt spammed, and on top of that not the uchiha's are few, on top of that, not every uchiha wants to save the others ass or someones ass by sacrificing theirs (madara/obito)

And it was stated uchiha's used izanagi in the past, + izanagi is an uchiha kinjutsu not uchiha/hashi dna,hashi dna been needed does'nt even make much sense tbh
 

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You see at that point Kabuto was completely exposed, Itachi could've easily cast the genjutsu like Madara did on Raikage and Sasuke did on White Zetsu.

And to further prove Itachi was nerfed he made it clear in part 1 that genjutsu doesn't solely rely on eye contact but on any of the 5 senses.

In fact, he could've already cast it before the fight started like he did with Deidara and Sasuke, he didn't have to wait for Kabuto to have prep time.

MANGEKYOU recquires eye contact bro. All Sharingan Genjutsu recquires eye contact. Kabuto had his EYESIGHT BLOCKED. The only genjutsu that caught Kabuto was izanami.
 

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It's a kinjutsu that's why it was'nt spammed, and on top of that not the uchiha's are few, on top of that, not every uchiha wants to save the others ass or someones ass by sacrificing theirs (madara/obito)

And it was stated uchiha's used izanagi in the past, + izanagi is an uchiha kinjutsu not uchiha/hashi dna,hashi dna been needed does'nt even make much sense tbh

Thank you for proving my point. Kishi rewrote Izanagis story. Its an asspull.

Dont get me wrong I like Itachis story for Izanagi better. But I been reading Naruto since the beggining and know an obvious asspull like this.
 

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You completely missing the fact that only those with power of uchiha and senju can use it. More preferably hashiramas perfecr cells and their life force.

No matter how much sense it makes kishi overwrite a whole story with another and tacked on an asspull move with it.

Yes correct: Only those with power of Uchiha and Senju can use Izanagi. But that is not the case with Izanami. You dont need Senju for Izanami, which is why it was created within the Uchiha Clan.

Stop hating. Other characters get their own abilities.

Like Sakura, learning to be strong. And guess what? She's proud of herself. She didnt need Izanami or Izanagi for that.
 
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Stop hating. It doesnt matter that only the Uchiha can use it.

Other characters get their own abilities.

Like Sukura, learning to be strong.


Why are you even messaging me if not for a real debate? Looks like you hating on me bruh
 
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