How did Zetsu know about RinneSharingan ??

[Guntah]

Zetsu is the Narutoverse Google.

He knows f*cking everything.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Sorry ; It's perhaps because of my English ;
But I can't understand how did BlackZetsu learn this method of awakening RinneSharingan (wasn't explained in that quote ) .

I just copy and paste my post from other thread

Madara never ate chakra Fruit but he know the importance of Juubi. Juubi is the reason he obtained Rinn Sharingan. If only Double Rinnegan can be used to awaken third eye, why Madara felt the need to assemble back Juubi?


Truth is that third eye on Madara's forehead was Kaguya's own eye. Nothing else. As Kaguya is part of Juubi,

Its not about Shinju not at full chakra but Rinn Sharingan already exist there for Madara

That mean only one Rinn Sharingan exist that awaken from eating a CF and Kaguya was the person who ate it.

There is no theory for Rinn Sharingan. The fact already presented on you. To strengthen this case, where was Madara's third eye after Kaguya got sealed? if you think that eye belong to Madara and his effort.

Plus you need to remember about Tablet instruction BZ wrote. He ordered Madara to get close to the moon(not that he was in outer space but in certain range for projecting Rinn Sharingan eye on moon surface). But that's not mean it was true of a method to awaken Rinn Sharingan

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It just BZ was playing with Madara all this time to revived back his mother and take over Madara body.;

BZ as Kaguya's own Will know about Rinn Sharingan. Actually the instruction is more like a secret plan from BZ to initiate Infinite Tsukuyomi and paved the way for Kaguya's revival. Kaguya need massive amount of chakra for he revival.

 

[SZiaee]

You're going off the assumption that Madara was the first time BZ has tried this. By his own admission(anime not sure if he mentioned this in the manga) but he has tried this countless times and has failed with every transmigrate. So he didn't just know what to do. As SenseiSama mentioned, he used "logic" everything he knew from Kaguya, Hagoromo, Ashura, and Indra, and proceeded to figure out another method via the tablet and through trial and error.

Thx about comment But ;
According to Black Zetsu , Madara was the first person to awaken the rinnegan ... So he couldn't try (for awakening RinneSharingan) countless times . (Because the first step for awakening RinneSharingan , is awakening two rinnegans)

 

[InfiniteMugen]

Thx about comment But ;
According to Black Zetsu , Madara was the first person to awaken the rinnegan ... So he couldn't try (for awakening RinneSharingan) countless times . (Because the first step for awakening RinneSharingan , is awakening two rinnegans)

This might just mean shinobi wise though, as obviously hago was the first to awaken/have the rinnegan

 

[SZiaee]

I just copy and paste my post from other thread

Madara never ate chakra Fruit but he know the importance of Juubi. Juubi is the reason he obtained Rinn Sharingan. If only Double Rinnegan can be used to awaken third eye, why Madara felt the need to assemble back Juubi?


Truth is that third eye on Madara's forehead was Kaguya's own eye. Nothing else. As Kaguya is part of Juubi,

Its not about Shinju not at full chakra but Rinn Sharingan already exist there for Madara

That mean only one Rinn Sharingan exist that awaken from eating a CF and Kaguya was the person who ate it.

There is no theory for Rinn Sharingan. The fact already presented on you. To strengthen this case, where was Madara's third eye after Kaguya got sealed? if you think that eye belong to Madara and his effort.

Plus you need to remember about Tablet instruction BZ wrote. He ordered Madara to get close to the moon(not that he was in outer space but in certain range for projecting Rinn Sharingan eye on moon surface). But that not mean it was true of a method to get Rinn Sharingan
It just BZ was playing with Madara all this time to reviving his mother and take over Madara body.;

So , you are simply saying :"Being a Jubi Jin would awaken RinneSharingan because Kaguya is a part of Jubi ???"

 

[SenseiSama]

I can't get how he used logic .... Only Kaguya could awaken RinneSharingan and she ate shinju's fruit (Not the method Zetsu mentioned) ... So there were no other examples for Zetsu to learn this new method .
Who said otherwise ?? I know Momo didn't have RinneSharingan .

Because Kaguya's chakra was passed on to Hagoromo and his kids which is why Indra had Sharingan and Ashura had Six Path Senjutu.

When you mix their chakras with the Juubi you get the chakra Kaguya ate from the fruit and as a result awaken the RinneSharingan.

 

[SZiaee]

This might just mean shinobi wise though, as obviously hago was the first to awaken/have the rinnegan

According to manga , we don't know whether Hago awakened them or was born with them ...

 

[Umari Senju]

Thx about comment But ;
According to Black Zetsu , Madara was the first person to awaken the rinnegan ... So he couldn't try (for awakening RinneSharingan) countless times . (Because the first step for awakening RinneSharingan , is awakening two rinnegans)

Yes true but that doesn't mean he didn't learn how to do it before the Rinnegan was first awakened. He still had all the past knowledge and all the previous failures to finally come up with a solution. The solution may have been to first have someone awaken the Rinnegan. Once Madara did this, it became a matter of moving forward With him(Madara) becoming a Juubi Jin. Black Zetsu was merely emulating what he learned from the past.

For all we know he may have succeeded in getting an Ashura transmigrate to become a Juubi Jin but no Rinnegan and thus it failed. He probably hypothesized that you need the Rinnegan as well emulating his mother and Hagoromo's abilities as a reference to enact the ultimate plan of awakening his mother.

Also that is not to say he knew how everything was going to work. He just put all the elements in on giant melting pot (Madara) and hoped it would work as he planned. If it didn't he would have slinked back into the shadows and started anew again. Trail and error. With Madara it paid off

 

[SenseiSama]

According to manga , we don't know whether Hago awakened them or was born with them ...

BZ said he awakened them

 

[SZiaee]

Because Kaguya's chakra was passed on to Hagoromo and his kids which is why Indra had Sharingan and Ashura had Six Path Senjutu.

When you mix their chakras with the Juubi you get the chakra Kaguya ate from the fruit and as a result awaken the RinneSharingan.

Again ," looking straight at the moon " is unnecessary .... And according to what you said , Madara must mix his chakra with Hamura , too .

 

[SZiaee]

BZ said he awakened them

Yup , I found that ... Thanks .

 

[InfiniteMugen]

According to manga , we don't know whether Hago awakened them or was born with them ...

That's why I said awakened/had, and that he might of just meant shinobi wise. Mads happened to be the first non ootsutsuki to do it, and even then it was an accident altogether, either way though, bz being kaguyas will means he knew everything she did, and he's been watching everything on the side since then so it makes sense how he would know all this

 

[Ansatsuken]

So , you are simply saying :"Being a Jubi Jin would awaken RinneSharingan because Kaguya is a part of Jubi ???"

Very close

Being a Juubi jin is the only way to awaken Rinn Sharingan beside eating chakra fruit.

I just edit my previous post

BZ as Kaguya's own Will know about Rinn Sharingan. Actually the instruction is more like a secret plan from BZ to initiate Infinite Tsukuyomi and pave the way for Kaguya's revival. Kaguya need massive amount of chakra for her revival thus she need IT to jump start it.

Madara getting manipulated there.

 

[SenseiSama]

Again ," looking straight at the moon " is unnecessary .... And according to what you said , Madara must mix his chakra with Hamura , too .

Why is it unecessary ? BZ's knowledge comes from Kaguya who was the keeper of he Shinju so all his knowledge would be legitimate. And Madara didn't need Hamura's chakra because it's Six Path Senjutsu which JuubiJins possess.

 

[SZiaee]

Very close

Being a Juubi jin is the only way to awaken Rinn Sharingan beside eating chakra fruit.

I just edit my previous post

BZ as Kaguya's own Will know about Rinn Sharingan. Actually the instruction is more like a secret plan from BZ to initiate Infinite Tsukuyomi and pave the way for Kaguya's revival. Kaguya need massive amount of chakra for her revival thus she need IT to jump start it.

Madara getting manipulated there.

So you simply say :
1- One must be Jubi Jin (necessary )
2- One must have 2 rinnegan (unnecessary)
3- One must look at the moon (unnecessary)
.....
.....
.....
Does it mean every Jubi Jin has a RinneSharingan ???
And thx about good replies

 

[SenseiSama]

So you simply say :
1- One must be Jubi Jin (necessary )
2- One must have 2 rinnegan (unnecessary)
3- One must look at the moon (unnecessary)
.....
.....
.....
Does it mean every Jubi Jin has a RinneSharingan ???
And thx about good replies

Rinnegan is necessary for RinneSharingan just as Sharingan is necessary to awaken Rinnegan. And looking at the moon is necessary as well otherwise Madara would have awakened it the minute he possessed his two eyes.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

As far as the stone tablets go though, zetsus the one that re wrote them to lead to the casting of IT(sorry if this has already been mentioned)

 

[SZiaee]

Why is it unecessary ? BZ's knowledge comes from Kaguya who was the keeper of he Shinju so all his knowledge would be legitimate. And Madara didn't need Hamura's chakra because it's Six Path Senjutsu which JuubiJins possess.

I might look like fools , but "How did Kaguya herself know this method ???"
1- She didn't have 2 rinnegan to learn this .
2- She didn't awaken her RinneSharingan , this way .
3- She was the first one to awaken RinneSharingan (According to what we know)

 

[Ansatsuken]

So you simply say :
1- One must be Jubi Jin (necessary )
2- One must have 2 rinnegan (unnecessary)
3- One must look at the moon (unnecessary)
.....
.....
.....
Does it mean every Jubi Jin has a RinneSharingan ???
And thx about good replies

-Rinnegan is not necessary bcus Rinnegan job is to revive Juubi back. No Rinnegan or a connection with Rinnegan mean no Outer path of Demonic Statue to be summon.

-looking at moon is exclusive for Kaguya's revival only.

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I say people still couldnt catch what actually happen inside Madara's IT arc

 

[SZiaee]

Rinnegan is necessary for RinneSharingan just as Sharingan is necessary to awaken Rinnegan. And looking at the moon is necessary as well otherwise Madara would have awakened it the minute he possessed his two eyes.

Those aren't my opinons yet .... I was just summarizing what he said (to ask a question from him ) .